blondie1234 Posted January 3, 2013 #1 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Does HA take roll at the muster drill? I know on princess they do not, while on NCL they do. Not sure too if policies changed since the disaster last year.... If you do not go to muster drill the first day is there a makeup time or would they not even know you did not got? On princess, they never counted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAllenTCY Posted January 3, 2013 #2 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes they do. If you miss it, you will be required to make it up the following morning. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangoscots Posted January 3, 2013 #3 Share Posted January 3, 2013 .... and by missing it you will hold up the people who are there while they try to locate you. Since the Concordia disaster they have gotten much more strict about the drills. Best to plan to be there. Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxoocruiser Posted January 3, 2013 #4 Share Posted January 3, 2013 HAL have gotten tougher on muster drill attendance since the Concordia disaster and have debarked passengers for non-compliance. Here's the link http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4734 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted January 3, 2013 #5 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes they take roll call, and I would suggest that you be there. It is up to the Captain, if there is a make-up muster drill the next day or not. In actuality, if you are not there you can be ask to leave the ship and not sail with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobiemom Posted January 3, 2013 #6 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes they take roll call, and I would suggest that you be there. It is up to the Captain, if there is a make-up muster drill the next day or not. In actuality, if you are not there you can be ask to leave the ship and not sail with it. Yup, I remember passengers were escorted off the ship (Westerdam and Seabourn Sojourn) for not attending the mandatory muster drill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 3, 2013 #7 Share Posted January 3, 2013 We had a lifeboat drill that was quite lengthy due to to 2 passengers who did not show up. They were assigned to our lifeboat. Their names were even announced over the PA system until they found them. Yes -- it is up to the captain if he decides to put someone off the ship for not showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 3, 2013 #8 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Does HA take roll at the muster drill? I know on princess they do not, while on NCL they do. Not sure too if policies changed since the disaster last year.... If you do not go to muster drill the first day is there a makeup time or would they not even know you did not got? On princess, they never counted.. Somehwere I read on a couple of cruise lines that they require you to run your ID card through a machine at the lifeboat drill. Thought that I had heard that Princess had started this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted January 3, 2013 #9 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes they do. If you miss it, you will be required to make it up the following morning.David The make-up drill out of Port Everglades/Ft. Lauderdale is two hours, at times one hour and 45 minutes, after the mandatory pax safety drill, the same (late) afternoon of sailaway In addition, it is not up to the captain to decide whether someone who is refusing to attend/participate in the pax safety drill is put off the ship. There is no discretion here! If you refuse, you get contacted in person, if you still refuse, you don't sail and off you go with your luggage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloofer Posted January 3, 2013 #10 Share Posted January 3, 2013 A related question. Does the muster drill always take place before sailaway - i.e. while the ship is still at the dock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted January 3, 2013 #11 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Yes they do. If you miss it, you will be required to make it up the following morning.David That is if they haven't disembarked you immediately for not attending. ;) A related question. Does the muster drill always take place before sailaway - i.e. while the ship is still at the dock? That has been the case on all our cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr green Posted January 3, 2013 #12 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Does HA take roll at the muster drill? I know on princess they do not, while on NCL they do. Not sure too if policies changed since the disaster last year..... On our last cruise with Princess our cards were scanned. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haley10594 Posted January 3, 2013 #13 Share Posted January 3, 2013 We sailed on the Ryndam in December. Everyone was required to be at lifeboat muster. They annmounced it many times over PA and yet those of us on time, which were few, had to wait, standing in the sun, for those inconsiderate ones who were late and had to be hunted down. My mom is 87, cannot stand for long periods of time. We were there for an hour. It would be absolutely unbearable in the summer. May I ask what could be delaying these people? Just plain rudeness. Most showed up with drinks in their hands, after being rounded up from various bars. Every cruise it is always the same. I don't know the answer. I know the staff was equally upset. Please cruisers, take this seriously. I hate these drills too but they are mandatory so just be there on time. Happy, safe cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted January 3, 2013 #14 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I know on princess they do not, while on NCL they do. ... Snip... On princess, they never counted.. I don't know how long it's been since you sailed on Princess, but I did just a few months ago. EVERY passenger had their card scanned at the muster stations. They were quite serious about making sure everyone was there. What you "know" isn't the case now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted January 3, 2013 #15 Share Posted January 3, 2013 May I ask what could be delaying these people? Just plain rudeness. Most showed up with drinks in their hands, after being rounded up from various bars. Every cruise it is always the same. I don't know the answer. The immediate answer is a substantial fine on the account of everyone who is late, within a reasonable tolerance level to be determined by HAL (3 minutes? 5?). This could be published promenently in the Daily Explorer, announced in the film running on the TV, and included in all the advance announcements. Secondarily, if you name has to be called a given number of times (2? 3?), then when you are found, you are removed from the ship and not allowed to sail. An instance of this, or two, and the compliance level will skyrocket. No need to punish the innocent, and allow the guilty to hold them all hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted January 4, 2013 #16 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Since the Concordia accident, they are checking actual names. Prior to that, it was cabin numbers only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted January 4, 2013 #17 Share Posted January 4, 2013 May I ask what could be delaying these people? Sometimes people who don't speak English are unaware of the urgency of attending the safety drill. My experience in the Caribbean on HAL and a few other lines says the announcements are made several times, but only in English. Others could be in the medical center and unable to attend. Once we were upgraded about an hour before the drill and the manifest had not been changed. We were at the proper station (clearly printed on our room cards) for the new cabin, but on the LIST for the station for the first cabin. They look at the cabin number on your life vest and check you off as present. When they began calling cabin numbers of the "missing" pax, ours was not called, so we figured we were accounted for... NOT! Later they started calling room numbers over the loudspeaker, and there we were! I tried to tell the attendance-taker my story, and he said, "OK". Then they started calling NAMES, and (I was told later) the Cruise Director, who was on the bridge at the time, saw my name and said "That's Candy - she would never miss the drill." So this guy called that guy who saw that we were, indeed, in attendance, and all was well with the Brocks. I can't say the same about the others, and don't know what happened to them. In other words, it could have been a simple cabin change and an error on the manifest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepWaterMariner Posted January 4, 2013 #18 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Somehwere I read on a couple of cruise lines that they require you to run your ID card through a machine at the lifeboat drill. Thought that I had heard that Princess had started this. Royal Caribbean is one of the lines scanning cards at the muster drills. Makes sense considering the large number of passengers they deal with plus potential language difficulties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobCruise Posted January 4, 2013 #19 Share Posted January 4, 2013 They did a roll call on our cruise but all they did was call out cabin#s and you would say "here". With the crowd mulling about and conversing, it was difficult to hear what # they were calling. There were a couple of people that called "here" then a few moments later called "here" again and then laughed about accidentally answering for the wrong cabin because they couldn't understand them. I think scanning cards would take a little longer, but would be more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspersmycat Posted January 4, 2013 #20 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Last January on the Eurodam we had a man holding a wine glass yelling "here" for every room during the second round. He told his friends he wanted to get back to serious drinking and didn't want no-shows to hold him up. I think bringing a alcoholic beverage to a serious thing like the muster drill should be fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estebofarr Posted January 4, 2013 #21 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is it mandatory to go to both lifeboat drills on a b 2 b? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr green Posted January 4, 2013 #22 Share Posted January 4, 2013 They did a roll call on our cruise but all they did was call out cabin#s and you would say "here". I think scanning cards would take a little longer, but would be more effective. Scanning cards is the faster way. We were scanned as we went into the lounge, before the drill started!:) john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 4, 2013 #23 Share Posted January 4, 2013 HAL have gotten tougher on muster drill attendance since the Concordia disaster and have debarked passengers for non-compliance. Here's the link http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4734 For as long as we have sailed HAL, which is voer 20 years, they have always taken attendance at life boat drill. It is not something new HAL is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 4, 2013 #24 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is it mandatory to go to both lifeboat drills on a b 2 b? Yes. You must attend lifeboat drill for every segment of your cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr green Posted January 4, 2013 #25 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Is it mandatory to go to both lifeboat drills on a b 2 b? On Princess last May it was not. Just check at the front desk, while on your first leg. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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