thompsongunner06 Posted March 16, 2013 #1 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolinaviking71208 Posted March 16, 2013 #2 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Amen on that! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleandjenna Posted March 16, 2013 #3 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. People are suing?! Unfreakingbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsongunner06 Posted March 16, 2013 Author #4 Share Posted March 16, 2013 According to the "press" a law suit was filled the minute a passenger hit the good ol USA ground once off a plane. So stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvhboat Posted March 16, 2013 #5 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. I hate to say it but its the new American way & its not getting any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris41 Posted March 16, 2013 #6 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If it had been me I might have sued if they made me leave the island before I wanted to. That could have beena very long time...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare songbird1329 Posted March 16, 2013 #7 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Haven't seen the pleadings, but I doubt thst suit is going to survive a motion to dismiss. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtw68 Posted March 16, 2013 #8 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It always amazes me how people are. Any vacation carries with it a risk of things going awry. Outside of some elevators not running and some toilets not flushing for a couple hours, nothing else happened! They even arranged for people with no passports to get home without any issues. Carnival isn't perfect, but they have learned some lessons from the previous incidents and are doing the best they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted March 16, 2013 #9 Share Posted March 16, 2013 American's have a tendency to sue over every stupid thing. A passenger is suing Carnival over not rescuing her fast enough and improper/poor medical attention after jumping overboard from a balcony while intoxicated . The fact that she is alive today tells me that Carnival and the Doctors did a proper job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeninfla708 Posted March 16, 2013 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2013 American's have a tendency to sue over every stupid thing. A passenger is suing Carnival over not rescuing her fast enough and improper/poor medical attention after jumping overboard from a balcony while intoxicated . The fact that she is alive today tells me that Carnival and the Doctors did a proper job. :eek: SMH!!! It's sad that this country sues others for their own stupidity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmckim Posted March 16, 2013 #11 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I just checked on PACER. Did not see anything filed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ib4cruzn Posted March 16, 2013 #12 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. Do not judge a man lest you walk a mile in his shoes. At least that way you'll be a mile away with a new pair of shoes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma Mojito Posted March 16, 2013 #13 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. I agree so much with what you have said. When will it stop?? Everyone is looking for a easy way to get rich!! Or at least to get some extra money in their pockets!!! How Sad!!! Plus the lawyers aren't helping the situation!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamma5 Posted March 16, 2013 #14 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Wow, we booked a condo for a week at the beach once. Had 2 light bulbs out and the toilet stopped up once. We could have sued?? Dang, missed out on that! What a crock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted March 16, 2013 #15 Share Posted March 16, 2013 People are just plain sue happy these days. On 2 Carnival cruises over the last 10 years where things have happened to alter our ports. Never even thought of suing. Carnival has always made it right for us and made us happy. That is why we will continue to sail Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum53 Posted March 16, 2013 #16 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Wow, we booked a condo for a week at the beach once. Had 2 light bulbs out and the toilet stopped up once. We could have sued?? Dang, missed out on that! What a crock! And I read on another thread somewhere on here about someone being bitten by sand fleas at a beach. Since some seem to think that Carnival has (or should have) control over anything and everything, can a person sue for being bitten by insects while in port? Maybe when people book a cruise, they should have to take an I.Q. test first, and if you're dumber than dirt, you don't get to go.:rolleyes::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dive Master Posted March 16, 2013 #17 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I agree so much with what you have said. When will it stop?? Everyone is looking for a easy way to get rich!! Or at least to get some extra money in their pockets!!! How Sad!!! Plus the lawyers aren't helping the situation!!! It will STOP when the USA adopts a "loser pay" system for our courts.Sue over something stupid and trivial if you want to but when you lose--you pay the winning party's expenses.If you can't pay the cost, your lawyer picks up the tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireofficer5 Posted March 16, 2013 #18 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Its the only recourse. CCL ruined their trip. The pay out is really cheap. With the recient CCL Hx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDSue Posted March 16, 2013 #19 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I'm Sue and I'm happy- going on a Carnival cruise next week! Oh, you weren't asking about me? Nevernind;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkz Posted March 16, 2013 #20 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. Lawsuit, according to what report? Where did you find a legitimate report that passengers had filed lawsuits regarding the Dream incident? There seems to be a lot of yapping here over an unsubstantiated story. Nothing new, of course. For those who believe that Americans have gone crazy filing lawsuits, statistically the number of tort (personal) injury lawsuits has declined significantly over the past decades, and represent maybe 6 or 7 percent of all lawsuits. Business have picked up the slack, suing each other and suing municipalities with great vigor. Also, a person doesn't need to suffer physical harm in order to file a suit. In any bargain, each side must meet its obligations. Carnival certainly has waivers up the ying-yang in its contract, but I suspect that in many cases a judge might find them indefensible and unconscionable, especially under circumstances such as those found in the Triumph episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare songbird1329 Posted March 16, 2013 #21 Share Posted March 16, 2013 American's have a tendency to sue over every stupid thing. A passenger is suing Carnival over not rescuing her fast enough and improper/poor medical attention after jumping overboard from a balcony while intoxicated . The fact that she is alive today tells me that Carnival and the Doctors did a proper job. Sorry, I disagree. Once she was injured she was entitled to appropriate medical care. If she's alive but has permanent injuries because of medical errors -- injuries that wrre exacerbated rather than gealed -- she has cause to sue. I believe she received appropriate medical care, but since I haven't seen her medical records or deposed the ship's medical staff, I don't know whether it's true. If you were in a car accident and broke your arm, you'd expect the doctor in the ER to put a cast on your arm, not cut it off, correct? And that would be true whether you caused the crash or whether someone else crashed into you. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare songbird1329 Posted March 16, 2013 #22 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Lawsuit, according to what report? Where did you find a legitimate report that passengers had filed lawsuits regarding the Dream incident? There seems to be a lot of yapping here over an unsubstantiated story. Nothing new, of course. For those who believe that Americans have gone crazy filing lawsuits, statistically the number of tort (personal) injury lawsuits has declined significantly over the past decades, and represent maybe 6 or 7 percent of all lawsuits. Business have picked up the slack, suing each other and suing municipalities with great vigor. Also, a person doesn't need to suffer physical harm in order to file a suit. In any bargain, each side must meet its obligations. Carnival certainly has waivers up the ying-yang in its contract, but I suspect that in many cases a judge might find them indefensible and unconscionable, especially under circumstances such as those found in the Triumph episode. The cruise industry contracts, such as Carnival's, have been uniformly upheld by the courts. We are talking about the purchase of a luxury item, not a necessity. You don't like the terms of the contract, don't board the ship. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkz Posted March 16, 2013 #23 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The cruise industry contracts, such as Carnival's, have been uniformly upheld by the courts. We are talking about the purchase of a luxury item, not a necessity. You don't like the terms of the contract, don't board the ship. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Absolutely inaccurate. They have not been uniformly upheld. Many defendants have successfully sued the cruise lines, and many more settlements have occurred out of court. The issue of luxury item vs necessity has nothing to do obligations in the relationship between buyers and sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkz Posted March 16, 2013 #24 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Absolutely inaccurate. They have not been uniformly upheld. Many defendants have successfully sued the cruise lines, and many more settlements have occurred out of court. The issue of luxury item vs necessity has nothing to do obligations in the relationship between buyers and sellers. I should have said, "many plaintiffs" not "many defendants." Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fydlstyx Posted March 16, 2013 #25 Share Posted March 16, 2013 OK,The ship is in port,,runs a test on backup generator and it fails. So the line pays for the passengers to stay on a great island for an extra day and then flies everyone home,gives a refund(small) and half off the next booking. Now people want to sue? I cant figure this out. At no time was anyone hurt, out of food,water or a place to stay and ENJOY! I hate to say it but Americans are spoiled. Carnival was only thinking about the passengers safety and people bitch and moan. I wish CC had a like button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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