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Seatrade Insider has reported that Carnival Cruise Lines VP of Entertainment, Adrian Fischer is moving to Princess Cruises to take over in the same role. He will replace long-time Princess VP of Entertainment Martin Hall who left the company in March after three decades.

 

This has me a little concerned as Fischer is responsible for dumbing down the entertainment on Carnival to new lows. Most live bands were eliminated and replaced with DJ's both in the atrium and out on deck. The shows, now called "Playlist Productions" are reduced from a large ensemble of singers and dancers down to a total of eight performers. There are no longer any backdrops, just a large video screen behind them. As mentioned earlier there is no more show band and the entire performance is done to a recorded "click track". Obviously this was all a cost cutting move.

 

It's a shame as Carnival Cruise Lines once had some of the best entertainment afloat under Roger Blum whom Fischer replaced. Elaborate Las Vegas style shows and great live music all over the ship. No more. I sailed on the newest Carnival ship the BREEZE earlier this year, and the entertainment was probably the worst I have experienced on any ship. The shows were so bad that I felt embarrassed for the performers. Of course I also missed the live bands on the Lido Deck and in the atrium and showlounge. All things of the past under Fischer.

 

I just hope Fischer doesn't being his "style" of entertainment (aka cost cutting) to Princess. His moves are especially puzzling when competing non-Carnival Corp brands such as NCL and Royal Caribbean are amping up the entertainment with Broadway and Vegas name shows.

 

Ernie

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Thanks for this information. Should be interesting to see how his appointment affects entertainment. I can't say I was a fan of the direction Martin Hall was taking it, but it sounds like we may be in store for more of the same.

 

The Carnival production shows sound like Disco: Blame it on the Boogie on Princess.

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I was just on a CCL ship, twice in the last 30 days.

The food was amazing, the desserts, best I have ever had.

 

Entertainment? Alot of DJ's.

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How very sad. :(

 

I guess we had better hurry up and enjoy dancing to live music while we can and then switch to HAL.

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This has me a little concerned as Fischer is responsible for dumbing down the entertainment on Carnival to new lows. Most live bands were eliminated and replaced with DJ's both in the atrium and out on deck. The shows, now called "Playlist Productions" are reduced from a large ensemble of singers and dancers down to a total of eight performers. There are no longer any backdrops, just a large video screen behind them. As mentioned earlier there is no more show band and the entire performance is done to a recorded "click track". Obviously this was all a cost cutting move.

 

Princess shows have already been dumbed down. When they cut the

existing shows from 45 to 30 minutes, they killed the flow of many of them.

 

As to 'no backdrops and no live music'? You have just described

"Once Upon a Dream" -- one of Princess's newer shows, currently

on Ruby.

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We were on the Ruby last Nov, shows were very 'also run' for lack of a better term. Just nothing that made us go 'wow' like they did 20 yrs ago.

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Seatrade Insider has reported that Carnival Cruise Lines VP of Entertainment, Adrian Fischer is moving to Princess Cruises to take over in the same role. He will replace long-time Princess VP of Entertainment Martin Hall who left the company in March after three decades.

 

This has me a little concerned as Fischer is responsible for dumbing down the entertainment on Carnival to new lows. Most live bands were eliminated and replaced with DJ's both in the atrium and out on deck. The shows, now called "Playlist Productions" are reduced from a large ensemble of singers and dancers down to a total of eight performers. There are no longer any backdrops, just a large video screen behind them. As mentioned earlier there is no more show band and the entire performance is done to a recorded "click track". Obviously this was all a cost cutting move.

 

It's a shame as Carnival Cruise Lines once had some of the best entertainment afloat under Roger Blum whom Fischer replaced. Elaborate Las Vegas style shows and great live music all over the ship. No more. I sailed on the newest Carnival ship the BREEZE earlier this year, and the entertainment was probably the worst I have experienced on any ship. The shows were so bad that I felt embarrassed for the performers. Of course I also missed the live bands on the Lido Deck and in the atrium and showlounge. All things of the past under Fischer.

 

I just hope Fischer doesn't being his "style" of entertainment (aka cost cutting) to Princess. His moves are especially puzzling when competing non-Carnival Corp brands such as NCL and Royal Caribbean are amping up the entertainment with Broadway and Vegas name shows.

 

Ernie

 

Wow, just wow.

 

This is incredibly bad news :mad:.

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How very sad. :(

 

I guess we had better hurry up and enjoy dancing to live music while we can and then switch to HAL.

We found the quality and variety of (most) HAL entertainment on the Noordam in December to be amazing. We were blown away by the amount of live music and the quality of their theater entertainment. The production shows were strictly high school- almost comically bad (the choreography, costumes and sets- not the performers)- but the other theater entertainment was way beyond Princess. If entertainment was the only consideration, we'd only cruise on HAL (and who'd have thought a few years ago that ANYONE would be saying that?).

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Not good news, we were never impressed with Princess shows. Some of the comedians were great, but over all the stage productions were not what I would call topnotch entertainment.

 

I feel sorry for the performers, they work hard.

 

I hope Princess reads these blogs.

 

Hugh:(

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I'm not ready to sound the alarm just yet. As noted, the entertainment on Princess has been swirling down the drain for a while now, so it's not like we are losing anything brilliant. As for his heavy use of DJs on Carnival, that may just be a Carnival phenomenon based on demographics. If you assume that Mr. Fischer is simply going to map his approach from Carnival over to Princess, then you have to assume that he has no grasp on the different demographic or dynamics of the two lines. That may prove to be true. But for now, I am going to trust that Mr. Fischer did not rise to his position by being a complete dope and that he realizes that Carnival and Princess are different. If a chef in a Mexican restaurant is hired to work at an Italian restauarant, it is not fair to jump to the conclusion that the cannelloni will soon become enchiladas.

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I'm not ready to sound the alarm just yet. As noted, the entertainment on Princess has been swirling down the drain for a while now, so it's not like we are losing anything brilliant. As for his heavy use of DJs on Carnival, that may just be a Carnival phenomenon based on demographics. If you assume that Mr. Fischer is simply going to map his approach from Carnival over to Princess, then you have to assume that he has no grasp on the different demographic or dynamics of the two lines. That may prove to be true. But for now, I am going to trust that Mr. Fischer did not rise to his position by being a complete dope and that he realizes that Carnival and Princess are different. If a chef in a Mexican restaurant is hired to work at an Italian restauarant, it is not fair to jump to the conclusion that the cannelloni will soon become enchiladas.

 

If he shows up for the first day of work in a Funship Freddy costume, then I might start to worry, but let the panic set in among those who do so at Cruise Critic.

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If he shows up for the first day of work in a Funship Freddy costume, then I might start to worry, but let the panic set in among those who do so at Cruise Critic.

If we start seeing someone walking around on Princess ships in a sea witch costume we'll know we're in trouble.

 

Seatrade Insider has reported that Carnival Cruise Lines VP of Entertainment, Adrian Fischer is moving to Princess Cruises to take over in the same role. He will replace long-time Princess VP of Entertainment Martin Hall who left the company in March after three decades.

So as we know, Princess entertainment (especially with the new schedules around production shows) has been negatively affected for a few years now. I wonder if Martin Hall has left because of the direction the cruise line was pushing him to make these changes or if he was just done...30 years is a long career.

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If we start seeing someone walking around on Princess ships in a sea witch costume we'll know we're in trouble.

 

 

So as we know, Princess entertainment (especially with the new schedules around production shows) has been negatively affected for a few years now. I wonder if Martin Hall has left because of the direction the cruise line was pushing him to make these changes or if he was just done...30 years is a long career.

 

Sounds more like a retirement. We all have to live with cutbacks. My biggest disappointment was the reduction in live musical entertainment at Explorers. I thought I was imagining that, but maybe not.

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If we start seeing someone walking around on Princess ships in a sea witch costume we'll know we're in trouble.

 

Gee, I see someone in a Pelican Pete costume with some frequency,

particulary at kids events.

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Suggest the new guy takes an NCL cruise. They can show him what entertainment on a cruise ship means

Just keep our great Princess food though:D

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IMO, Princess production shows are seldom worth attending considering the quality of entertainment and size of venue. This is perhaps the weakest area of the line. Live bands seem to be hit or miss, no consistency. The comedians often fare well, but this may be due to overall lowered bar for entertainment. I hope they do not further reduce any of these, but they do need to be profitable and competitive.

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If we start seeing someone walking around on Princess ships in a sea witch costume we'll know we're in trouble.

 

 

So as we know, Princess entertainment (especially with the new schedules around production shows) has been negatively affected for a few years now. I wonder if Martin Hall has left because of the direction the cruise line was pushing him to make these changes or if he was just done...30 years is a long career.

 

when I saw the first post, I was wondering if Mr. Hall was simply retiring (which would make sense for someone's who has worked for over 30 years, as he probably had prior experience) or if he wasn't liking the direction Princess has been taking.

 

I certainly hope we all start writing Princess (even go on their Facebook page and post) our concerns. Having live music on a cruise is important to us. And I can't see going on NCL :eek: or Royal just to get that.

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Seatrade Insider has reported that Carnival Cruise Lines VP of Entertainment, Adrian Fischer is moving to Princess Cruises to take over in the same role. He will replace long-time Princess VP of Entertainment Martin Hall who left the company in March after three decades.

 

This has me a little concerned as Fischer is responsible for dumbing down the entertainment on Carnival to new lows. Most live bands were eliminated and replaced with DJ's both in the atrium and out on deck. The shows, now called "Playlist Productions" are reduced from a large ensemble of singers and dancers down to a total of eight performers. There are no longer any backdrops, just a large video screen behind them. As mentioned earlier there is no more show band and the entire performance is done to a recorded "click track". Obviously this was all a cost cutting move.

 

It's a shame as Carnival Cruise Lines once had some of the best entertainment afloat under Roger Blum whom Fischer replaced. Elaborate Las Vegas style shows and great live music all over the ship. No more. I sailed on the newest Carnival ship the BREEZE earlier this year, and the entertainment was probably the worst I have experienced on any ship. The shows were so bad that I felt embarrassed for the performers. Of course I also missed the live bands on the Lido Deck and in the atrium and showlounge. All things of the past under Fischer.

 

I just hope Fischer doesn't being his "style" of entertainment (aka cost cutting) to Princess. His moves are especially puzzling when competing non-Carnival Corp brands such as NCL and Royal Caribbean are amping up the entertainment with Broadway and Vegas name shows.

 

Ernie

 

After reading all about not having any live music etc on Carnival I last week got off the Legend Med cruise and was surprised they had a 10 piece band at the live shows.

The comedian show we went to was awful - racial comments and cussing is not comedy to me and I don't believe it was appropriate at all, guess he may have been the result of cost cutting. I was disappointed there were not many movies shown onboard but about 6-7 trivia's a day!

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Seatrade Insider has reported that Carnival Cruise Lines VP of Entertainment, Adrian Fischer is moving to Princess Cruises to take over in the same role. He will replace long-time Princess VP of Entertainment Martin Hall who left the company in March after three decades.

 

This has me a little concerned as Fischer is responsible for dumbing down the entertainment on Carnival to new lows. Most live bands were eliminated and replaced with DJ's both in the atrium and out on deck. The shows, now called "Playlist Productions" are reduced from a large ensemble of singers and dancers down to a total of eight performers. There are no longer any backdrops, just a large video screen behind them. As mentioned earlier there is no more show band and the entire performance is done to a recorded "click track". Obviously this was all a cost cutting move.

 

It's a shame as Carnival Cruise Lines once had some of the best entertainment afloat under Roger Blum whom Fischer replaced. Elaborate Las Vegas style shows and great live music all over the ship. No more. I sailed on the newest Carnival ship the BREEZE earlier this year, and the entertainment was probably the worst I have experienced on any ship. The shows were so bad that I felt embarrassed for the performers. Of course I also missed the live bands on the Lido Deck and in the atrium and showlounge. All things of the past under Fischer.

 

I just hope Fischer doesn't being his "style" of entertainment (aka cost cutting) to Princess. His moves are especially puzzling when competing non-Carnival Corp brands such as NCL and Royal Caribbean are amping up the entertainment with Broadway and Vegas name shows.

 

Ernie

 

I guess we'll have to wait and see.....:):):)

 

Bob

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Gee, I see someone in a Pelican Pete costume with some frequency,

particulary at kids events.

 

I don't attend events meant for children.

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IMO' date=' Princess production shows are seldom worth attending considering the quality of entertainment and size of venue. This is perhaps the weakest area of the line. Live bands seem to be hit or miss, no consistency. The comedians often fare well, but this may be due to overall lowered bar for entertainment. I hope they do not further reduce any of these, but they do need to be profitable and competitive.[/quote']

 

And yet the production shows play to full theaters - even with the reduced to 30 minute shows. Somebody must like 'em.

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Princess shows have already been dumbed down. When they cut the

existing shows from 45 to 30 minutes, they killed the flow of many of them.

 

As to 'no backdrops and no live music'? You have just described

"Once Upon a Dream" -- one of Princess's newer shows, currently

on Ruby.

 

I agree; hate the 30 minute format and the sets and backdrops have really gone downhill. Fewer dancers all the time, as well.

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The theaters weren't always full on our most recent cruise, but there's just not much other choice if you want to see a show.

 

Some do seem to like them, I guess because then they can go to more than one mediocre, short show a night.

 

I agree with a previous post that NCL has fantastic shows.

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Just returned from the Golden Alaska cruise. The production show Stardust was pretty bad. The four singers sounded the same. The live band was fine. Skipped Piano Man and the other production shows. Sarge was very funny. His second show was standing room only so we skipped it. There was a single singer but I didn't care for her and many others also skipped her shows. It's only 30 minutes of our time so, no big deal. Played Texas Holdem in the casino instead and that was a lot of fun.

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