BrPanthers99 Posted August 21, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was on the 8/11 cruise and although I did not personally see this, my father & mother did. I was enjoying my balcony :-) Everyone was to be on board at 4:30. We pulled out around 5pm after the Celebrity Summit left. Just as we pulled off, a man and women got out of a taxi. Upon seeing the boat leaving, the women fell to her knees. Hundreds of people started yelling "run, run run" as they started running down the dock. Then everyone was yelling "swim, swim, swim" The boat continued to leave but they were lucky enough that the loan tugboat allowed them to jump in and were taken on board the Breakaway. I found out the next day apparently they had 2 kids on board alright. Not the smartest thing. NEVER BE LATE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylroslyn Posted August 21, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was on the 8/11 cruise and although I did not personally see this, my father & mother did. I was enjoying my balcony :-) Everyone was to be on board at 4:30. We pulled out around 5pm after the Celebrity Summit left. Just as we pulled off, a man and women got out of a taxi. Upon seeing the boat leaving, the women fell to her knees. Hundreds of people started yelling "run, run run" as they started running down the dock. Then everyone was yelling "swim, swim, swim" The boat continued to leave but they were lucky enough that the loan tugboat allowed them to jump in and were taken on board the Breakaway. I found out the next day apparently they had 2 kids on board alright. Not the smartest thing. NEVER BE LATE!!! Although there were a number of threads about this topic, including a link to watch it live.....no one had the first hand information that you have regarding the fact that they left their kids on the ship. If this is in fact true I am sick to my stomach..... And I don't care what the reason is.... The ferry could have sunk, the bus could have driven off a cliff, they could have been robbed.....I just don't care. There is no excuse to be glad assing around Bermuda on the final day when your kids are on the ship without you.......PERIOD! Any time you board passengers onto a moving ship you risk death or injury, not only to the passengers,but to the tug crew as well. If that girl had fallen off the rope ladder the tug crew would have probably gone in after her, and risked getting squished between the tug and the ship. Now I wish they had left and that the children had been handed over to CPS/CFS when they reached NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrPanthers99 Posted August 21, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Day 3 we just stayed around the dockyard. I was amazed at noon, 4 1/2 hours before you needed to be back on the boat people were in line for a taxi/bus to GO to Horseshoe Bay which is about 25 minutes away. Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmomny Posted August 21, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Our June 16th to the 23rd sailing was delayed leaving Bermuda almost 90 minutes waiting on many guest who were late, we sat and watched from H2O the people running to get on board and the last group was four young teen kids on the island without adult supervision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted August 21, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Although there were a number of threads about this topic, including a link to watch it live.....no one had the first hand information that you have regarding the fact that they left their kids on the ship. If this is in fact true I am sick to my stomach..... And I don't care what the reason is.... The ferry could have sunk, the bus could have driven off a cliff, they could have been robbed.....I just don't care. There is no excuse to be glad assing around Bermuda on the final day when your kids are on the ship without you.......PERIOD! Any time you board passengers onto a moving ship you risk death or injury, not only to the passengers,but to the tug crew as well. If that girl had fallen off the rope ladder the tug crew would have probably gone in after her, and risked getting squished between the tug and the ship. Now I wish they had left and that the children had been handed over to CPS/CFS when they reached NY. Without knowing the age of the kids, I'd say it is impossible to say this about leaving kids on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laszlo Posted August 21, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Our June 16th to the 23rd sailing was delayed leaving Bermuda almost 90 minutes waiting on many guest who were late, we sat and watched from H2O the people running to get on board and the last group was four young teen kids on the island without adult supervision! If its an NCL sponsored excursion which is late getting back they will normally wait........how long, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylroslyn Posted August 21, 2013 #7 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Without knowing the age of the kids, I'd say it is impossible to say this about leaving kids on board. Wrong..... You can look at the mother and see we are not talking about 20 year olds. Children under the age of 21 are not allowed to sail alone. Parents who show up to the dock and risk their children being ejected from a ship in a foriengn country are a disgrace. It was reported that they were "young children". My definition of young children in general would be something around 10 and under. For international travel however, even teenagers would, first of all, not really be allowed to sail allone, but would also have to be supervised around the clock. Whose responsibility is that? Imagine some four or six year old sitting on a ship and finding out that mommy and daddy are not on the ship and that no one knows about their safety or well being. Now imagine the kids are 12 or 13, to me its not much different, those children would probably panic harder realizing they are stranded on a ship in the middle of the ocean unable to reach other relatives. We are talking about a major emotionaly scarring incident, this is not just a cute video on Youtube, to me it is neglect. If you leave your children on a ship and make it back an hour late, as it is clear these idiots did, I would have a CFS worker waiting at the airport when they flew home and I would would temporarily remove their children pending an investigation if they were under 13 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTabbyKats Posted August 21, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I could not agree more about this being child neglect. Even if you have grown kids...and miss the ship...they'd probably panic! (Worried about YOU...not where they will get food.) Since the parents eventually did make it I don't think NCL has the authority to call social services back in NY. Sometimes I think people should have to pass a test before they are allowed to have kids........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoie Posted August 21, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Day 3 we just stayed around the dockyard. I was amazed at noon, 4 1/2 hours before you needed to be back on the boat people were in line for a taxi/bus to GO to Horseshoe Bay which is about 25 minutes away. Amazing I'd do that. I can't take much sun, so an hour at a beach would be more than enough for me. 30 minutes there and back, and an hour there would still leave me with 2.5 hours contingency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted August 21, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Wrong..... You can look at the mother and see we are not talking about 20 year olds. Children under the age of 21 are not allowed to sail alone. Parents who show up to the dock and risk their children being ejected from a ship in a foriengn country are a disgrace. It was reported that they were "young children". My definition of young children in general would be something around 10 and under. For international travel however, even teenagers would, first of all, not really be allowed to sail allone, but would also have to be supervised around the clock. Whose responsibility is that? Imagine some four or six year old sitting on a ship and finding out that mommy and daddy are not on the ship and that no one knows about their safety or well being. Now imagine the kids are 12 or 13, to me its not much different, those children would probably panic harder realizing they are stranded on a ship in the middle of the ocean unable to reach other relatives. We are talking about a major emotionaly scarring incident, this is not just a cute video on Youtube, to me it is neglect. If you leave your children on a ship and make it back an hour late, as it is clear these idiots did, I would have a CFS worker waiting at the airport when they flew home and I would would temporarily remove their children pending an investigation if they were under 13 years old. Wrong? How about difference of opinion based on limited facts? There are so many unknowns. You don't know the age of the children, whether there are other adult relatives on board, or any clue why these adults were late. We don't even know the man and woman are the two parents, all we have is a foggy video, some assumptions and rumors. I like to have a few facts before I call CFS. But if you want to rant about something beyond your control, be my guest. I just offered a thought. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted August 21, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sometimes I think people should have to pass a test before they are allowed to have kids........... I agree with that! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbisson Posted August 21, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Although there were a number of threads about this topic, including a link to watch it live.....no one had the first hand information that you have regarding the fact that they left their kids on the ship. If this is in fact true I am sick to my stomach..... And I don't care what the reason is.... The ferry could have sunk, the bus could have driven off a cliff, they could have been robbed.....I just don't care. I hope you're not saying it would have been better for the kids to be with the parents if "the ferry could have sunk" or "the bus could have driven off a cliff" or "they could have been robbed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonm921 Posted August 21, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was on this cruise...I didnt hear about this when we were on the boat. But from the video I am pretty certain that they were a couple that stayed about 5 cabins away from me. If it was indeed them those people did not travel with kids. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted August 21, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was on this cruise...I didnt hear about this when we were on the boat. But from the video I am pretty certain that they were a couple that stayed about 5 cabins away from me. If it was indeed them those people did not travel with kids. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Forums mobile app Thanks, Jason. (Your report is as reliable as any we have had.) Better call child protective services and tell them to hold off. Lol. Rumor can be a terrible thing. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylroslyn Posted August 21, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I hope you're not saying it would have been better for the kids to be with the parents if "the ferry could have sunk" or "the bus could have driven off a cliff" or "they could have been robbed" No I'm saying I don't care what their excuse for being late, you do not get that far away from a ship that is leaving when you have young children on board by themselves. I personally would not leave my kids on a ship if I were off the ship, but maybe that is just me. I could possibly concieve of going to get a rum cake accross the parking lot of the Royal Navy Dockyard......or something quick within sight distance of the ship. But that would be it. What if they are in kids club and something happens to them? I want to be there. Whatever their reason for being late, to me it is one thing when you are talking about grown adults....it is entirely differnet when you are talking about parents with childrren on board. And in my opinion the only reason the Captain allowed that dangerous operation is because of the fact that the kids were on board, that explains a lot to experienced cruisers that know the ship will rarely slow down for a dangerous operation like this, especially with a ship like the Breakaway, those are civilians, not experienced "pilots"who are used to boarding a moving vessel. The Captain clearly stopped for the children's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted August 21, 2013 #16 Share Posted August 21, 2013 No I'm saying I don't care what their excuse for being late, you do not get that far away from a ship that is leaving when you have young children on board by themselves. I personally would not leave my kids on a ship if I were off the ship, but maybe that is just me. I could possibly concieve of going to get a rum cake accross the parking lot of the Royal Navy Dockyard......or something quick within sight distance of the ship. But that would be it. What if they are in kids club and something happens to them? I want to be there. Whatever their reason for being late, to me it is one thing when you are talking about grown adults....it is entirely differnet when you are talking about parents with childrren on board. And in my opinion the only reason the Captain allowed that dangerous operation is because of the fact that the kids were on board, that explains a lot to experienced cruisers that know the ship will rarely slow down for a dangerous operation like this, especially with a ship like the Breakaway, those are civilians, not experienced "pilots"who are used to boarding a moving vessel. The Captain clearly stopped for the children's sake. I'm glad you're so certain you know what happened, though I can't for the life of me think how. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylroslyn Posted August 21, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thanks, Jason. (Your report is as reliable as any we have had.) Better call child protective services and tell them to hold off. Lol. Rumor can be a terrible thing. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Clearly my comments were based on the the prior poster that said children were left on board. Obviously if the grandparents were onboard or some other relatives it would not be a CFS issue, but I stand by my comments if these people had young children on board alone, I would have made a referral to CFS. And again if children are left on board alone....I don't care what your reason.......there simply is no reason to be that far away that you can't get back on debarkation day....Bermuda is not that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roe2ship Posted August 21, 2013 #18 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I was on the same cruise and watched the whole thing unfold. I never heard anything about them having kids on board. Maybe it was a rumor just like I overheard someone say she heard 3 people were running for the ship. If this couple did have kids, I would imagine they have to be very young, as the couple themselves looked in their late twenties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laszlo Posted August 21, 2013 #19 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Clearly my comments were based on the the prior poster that said children were left on board. Obviously if the grandparents were onboard or some other relatives it would not be a CFS issue, but I stand by my comments if these people had young children on board alone, I would have made a referral to CFS. And again if children are left on board alone....I don't care what your reason.......there simply is no reason to be that far away that you can't get back on debarkation day....Bermuda is not that big. Can we please stop judging these people, nobody here's knows them. We have no idea why they were late, if they had children, how old the children if they had any were On our last cruise to Bermuda their were over a hundred people who arrived between 4:30 and 5:00pm and about a dozen between 5:00-5:15. The people in the cabin next to us were late because the taxi they were in was involved in an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpecorari Posted August 22, 2013 #20 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I was on the same cruise and watched the whole thing unfold. I never heard anything about them having kids on board. Maybe it was a rumor just like I overheard someone say she heard 3 people were running for the ship. If this couple did have kids, I would imagine they have to be very young, as the couple themselves looked in their late twenties. If they had children and if they left them onboard..... lets not forget they DO have a children's program and maybe they were there....Lots of if's here. Harriet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Old Bob Posted August 22, 2013 #21 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I was on the same cruise and watched the whole thing unfold. I never heard anything about them having kids on board. Maybe it was a rumor just like I overheard someone say she heard 3 people were running for the ship. If this couple did have kids, I would imagine they have to be very young, as the couple themselves looked in their late twenties. Watched most of the incident on my home computer and there were 3 running down the ramps to the tug. The third did not accompany the couple on the tug. I suspect he was either an NCL or port representative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea777 Posted August 22, 2013 #22 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I do not think any captain would allow the ship to depart if the missing pax had kids on the ship!!! Would you think he would??!! Those 2 pax that were late did not have kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissasMomE Posted August 22, 2013 #23 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I was on the 8/11 cruise and although I did not personally see this, my father & mother did. I was enjoying my balcony :-) Everyone was to be on board at 4:30. We pulled out around 5pm after the Celebrity Summit left. Just as we pulled off, a man and women got out of a taxi. Upon seeing the boat leaving, the women fell to her knees. Hundreds of people started yelling "run, run run" as they started running down the dock. Then everyone was yelling "swim, swim, swim" The boat continued to leave but they were lucky enough that the loan tugboat allowed them to jump in and were taken on board the Breakaway. I found out the next day apparently they had 2 kids on board alright. Not the smartest thing. NEVER BE LATE!!! Never leave your kids on the ship without at least one parent. That is the most irresponsible thing someone can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJS329 Posted August 22, 2013 #24 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If they had children and if they left them onboard.....lets not forget they DO have a children's program and maybe they were there....Lots of if's here. Harriet Good point! They specifically have children's programming for parents to do their own thing such as explore the port. People need to stop judging this couple. You don't know what happened and if it was out of the couple's control or not. And -- we even have reports here that they didn't have kids -- so it could have been a false rumor created on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted August 22, 2013 #25 Share Posted August 22, 2013 No I'm saying I don't care what their excuse for being late, you do not get that far away from a ship that is leaving when you have young children on board by themselves. I personally would not leave my kids on a ship if I were off the ship, but maybe that is just me. I could possibly concieve of going to get a rum cake accross the parking lot of the Royal Navy Dockyard......or something quick within sight distance of the ship. But that would be it. What if they are in kids club and something happens to them? I want to be there. Whatever their reason for being late, to me it is one thing when you are talking about grown adults....it is entirely differnet when you are talking about parents with childrren on board. And in my opinion the only reason the Captain allowed that dangerous operation is because of the fact that the kids were on board, that explains a lot to experienced cruisers that know the ship will rarely slow down for a dangerous operation like this, especially with a ship like the Breakaway, those are civilians, not experienced "pilots"who are used to boarding a moving vessel. The Captain clearly stopped for the children's sake. Transferring from a tug to the ship is no more dangerous than transferring from a tender to the ship. I have read many reports on Cruise Critic of people being able to hitch a ride with the pilot boat, tug or whatever to catch up to the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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