Jimmy Geegitz Posted January 18, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Angine see the overboard story? The girl sas drunk. Cant believe she is suing Carnival Sent from my HTC One mini using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckysll Posted January 18, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I thought it was at least a lot more balanced than some recent cruise-related stories. If you look closely at the video of her falling, she appears to come over the railing at waist height, which to me says she was possibly standing on the chair on the balcony to look over. I love that her lawyer said the ship "oversold" her alcohol. If they had cut her off, she'd probably be suing them for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccersharon Posted January 18, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 18, 2014 She is lucky to be alive! How drunk do you have to be to take a header over the railing? Sent from my SGH-I747M using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawblond7 Posted January 18, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 18, 2014 My guess the theory for liability and damages not so much for her falling overboard but rather undef Dram Shop Liability or similar which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest. Saying she was over served thus intoxicated points that way. Along the lines but for Carnivals bar tenders serving more & more alcohol she would not have been drunk & therefore would never have gone overboard Sharon Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieHoffman Posted January 18, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just saw this on our news coverage but my question is if she was as drunk as they say how did she manage to stay alive in the water for 90 minutes!? And I feel this lawsuit should be tossed out immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luddite Posted January 18, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Drunk and stupid. It's always a bad combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted January 18, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 18, 2014 And this is why you steam full speed ahead and do not turn around. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Geegitz Posted January 18, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted January 18, 2014 She had to be standing on a chair or sitting on the rail Sent from my HTC One mini using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted January 18, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Gee, I step away from my laptop to load the dishwasher and do some laundry and miss it. Wonder if the video will be on demand....we have FIOS Having done many cruises and enjoyed a few libations on our balcony, I find it hard to understand how anyone could "fall over" the ship......maybe on the floor! Would love to see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmkmk Posted January 18, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Angine see the overboard story? The girl sas drunk. Cant believe she is suing Carnival Sent from my HTC One mini using Forums mobile app Couldn't believe she is suing and couldn't believe they gave her air-time. But I also couldn't believe how many people fall overboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted January 18, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 18, 2014 She feels it took too long for the ship to come back and get her. I imagine it would take time to report the fall, verify there was indeed a fall. Should a ship turn around without evidence of a fall? Yep, I can see it now, pranksters saying so and so fell off just to see what a ship will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted January 18, 2014 #12 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How sad that people think personal responsibility does not count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rch3 Posted January 18, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 18, 2014 By turning around and pulling her out of the ocean, Carnival defeated an instance of Darwin's principle at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out to sea! Posted January 18, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 18, 2014 My guess the theory for liability and damages not so much for her falling overboard but rather undef Dram Shop Liability or similar which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest. Saying she was over served thus intoxicated points that way. Along the lines but for Carnivals bar tenders serving more & more alcohol she would not have been drunk & therefore would never have gone overboard Sharon Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app You seem to forget that US law does not apply outside of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted January 18, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 18, 2014 You seem to forget that US law does not apply outside of the US. So how is she able to bring suit in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelleum Posted January 18, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Gee, I step away from my laptop to load the dishwasher and do some laundry and miss it. Wonder if the video will be on demand....we have FIOS You can see it on Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdrescherRBL152 Posted January 18, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 18, 2014 My guess the theory for liability and damages not so much for her falling overboard but rather undef Dram Shop Liability or similar which makes a business which sells alcoholic drinks or a host who serves liquor to a drinker who is obviously intoxicated or close to it, strictly liable to anyone injured by the drunken patron or guest. Saying she was over served thus intoxicated points that way. Along the lines but for Carnivals bar tenders serving more & more alcohol she would not have been drunk & therefore would never have gone overboard Sharon Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Agree that is what her lawyer will claim. But I do see a major problem for their case. Unless she was sitting at the bar and ordering the drinks her self, or being served by the the same waiter, no way for the bar staff to know how much she had had to drink. I do think I recall when this happened, and was posted about on here. And if I recall at the time her friends admitted that when they first called and reported her missing they said they thought she might have fallen overboard. And 90 mins. to turn a cruise ship around and find someone in the ocean is not a real lengthy amout of time. A 1,000 foot long cruise ship doing 20 knotts would take a could 30 mins. just to turn a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsixteencruisers Posted January 18, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 18, 2014 How sad that people think personal responsibility does not count This was my exact response when I saw this on Good Morning America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted January 18, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Wonder if this will affect their cheers program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMAE Posted January 18, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sadly personal responsibility is no longer, it is always someone else fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee777 Posted January 18, 2014 #21 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Accountability for one's own actions is a thing of the past. I think it's gone the way of the dinosaur, so very few even know what it means anymore. She should feel shamed for behaving that way at thirty years old and be grateful she was rescued at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiagolfer Posted January 18, 2014 #22 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Accountability for one's own actions is a thing of the past. I think it's gone the way of the dinosaur, so very few even know what it means anymore. She should feel shamed for behaving that way at thirty years old and be grateful she was rescued at all. So agree with the lack of personal accountability issues in the world today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nylori Posted January 18, 2014 #23 Share Posted January 18, 2014 i would like to see her sign and sail card/bartab. That would tell alot. Also was she off the ship in say Cozumel drinking all day? 5 cruises and the last one cheers program and we were never drunk except the day we went to Mr Sanchos AI in Cozumel, alot of people were. Smuggled liquor in the room? Bottles ordered from Bon Voyage? At a bar at home the bartenders have to worry about you driving home. Not so on the ship. Friends could also of got her drinks if she was too drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemusik Posted January 18, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 18, 2014 http://abcnews.go.com/US/prepared-cruise-ships-overboard/story?id=21543575 Just watched the video here- It 110% doe NOT look like " whooops! I fell overboard!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaEnzo Posted January 18, 2014 #25 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) It seems that the technology isn't completed yet; which is why they don't have it. I think they should have somebody monitoring the video cameras. Also, she may have been over served alcohol. However, they SAVED her life. If that happened to me, I would feel such a huge sense of appreciation and gratitude. I'd feel like they were my heroes. I can't see suing a company that just saved your life. I think a thank you card would be in order. :rolleyes: Edited January 18, 2014 by AmandaEnzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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