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On each of the Princess ships I have been on in the past year, including one in January, all of them have had an 2nd performer in a different venue each night.

 

Someone posted the Patters for a recent 7 day CB cruise. Only one night out of 7 was there a second entertainer in another venue.

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Someone posted the Patters for a recent 7 day CB cruise. Only one night out of 7 was there a second entertainer in another venue.

 

Apparently then you exclude live music from the definition of second entertainer. Even if you do that there was two outside entertainers chuck Curry and Marney Fletcher, in addition to the band performances.

 

On that cruise you had in Explorers:

 

12 Cabaret Showtime Chuck Curry

13 Music with the Dreamboats

14 Marney Fletcher (Cash and Friends)

15 Passion Band

16 Dreamboats

17 Passion Band

 

In addition you also had a person at the Piano bar that was standing room only each night and the music in the piazza. I was on that cruise. There is an error in the Patters the magic show never performed, instead the singers and dancers performed one more night.

 

At a time when other lines are eliminating live music.

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I am in half way of South America cruise on Golden Princess. All Evening entertainment programs in Princess Theater and Vista Lounge are less than 30 minutes, including musical, comedy, and production shows such as British Invasion. There should be a magician show on this cruise. I'll see if it might last 30 minutes. Hope this is not a 2014 invention for Princess.

Just cutbacks all over.

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I do consider that entertainment but not a featured entertainer. If they are going to do 30-40 min production shows, there should also be a headliner most nights for at least 30-40 mins per show in a large venue (explorers does not count) (comedian, magician, etc)

 

Apparently then you exclude live music from the definition of second entertainer. Even if you do that there was two outside entertainers chuck Curry and Marney Fletcher, in addition to the band performances.

 

On that cruise you had in Explorers:

 

12 Cabaret Showtime Chuck Curry

13 Music with the Dreamboats

14 Marney Fletcher (Cash and Friends)

15 Passion Band

16 Dreamboats

17 Passion Band

 

In addition you also had a person at the Piano bar that was standing room only each night and the music in the piazza. I was on that cruise. There is an error in the Patters the magic show never performed, instead the singers and dancers performed one more night.

 

At a time when other lines are eliminating live music.

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I do consider that entertainment but not a featured entertainer. If they are going to do 30-40 min production shows, there should also be a headliner most nights for at least 30-40 mins per show in a large venue (explorers does not count) (comedian, magician, etc)

 

Other then Explorers there is really only one other venue (Vista on some ships, Club Fusion on others). The theater had events each evening. There is not that much difference in seating capacity between club fusion and explorers. Club Fusion/Vista is more spread out and you pretty much need the monitors to see the stage from a lot of the seats.

 

On the night that Cash and Friends performed they went long by about 15 minutes. Created a real mess. People were lined up to get in all the way through the Casino. Made it difficult for people to exit the theater. Adding to that there was a medical issue somewhere near the theater at the same time as the show change.

 

On one night there was only two shows 45 minute shows scheduled (the comedian). Unlike the nights when there were three shows where things flowed smoothly and it seemed that everyone could find a seat, on that night you had people standing along the side walls and far more people wanted to attend then the theater had room for. Which seemed to match what Princess said when they original made the change from 2 45 minute to 3 30 minute shows. That is was done to enable all of those that wanted to, to be able to attend.

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I never counted seats but for some reason Explorers always strikes me as smaller.

 

Other then Explorers there is really only one other venue (Vista on some ships, Club Fusion on others). The theater had events each evening. There is not that much difference in seating capacity between club fusion and explorers. Club Fusion/Vista is more spread out and you pretty much need the monitors to see the stage from a lot of the seats.

 

On the night that Cash and Friends performed they went long by about 15 minutes. Created a real mess. People were lined up to get in all the way through the Casino. Made it difficult for people to exit the theater. Adding to that there was a medical issue somewhere near the theater at the same time as the show change.

 

On one night there was only two shows 45 minute shows scheduled (the comedian). Unlike the nights when there were three shows where things flowed smoothly and it seemed that everyone could find a seat, on that night you had people standing along the side walls and far more people wanted to attend then the theater had room for. Which seemed to match what Princess said when they original made the change from 2 45 minute to 3 30 minute shows. That is was done to enable all of those that wanted to, to be able to attend.

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I never counted seats but for some reason Explorers always strikes me as smaller.

 

You are correct in that it is a smaller physical space, but the seats are closer together and most have a good view of the stage.

 

Club Fusion is physically larger, but the seats are spread out more and the view of the stage is more limited, thus the monitors on the columns around the room. At a guess I would expect Club Fusion to maybe have 20-30% more capacity, but a worse experience.

 

On the Golden last year I did see them do a production performance in Vista one night when they had a different act in the Theater. They said that it had been specifically sized for there.

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I enjoy the shows and this now confirms I am moving to another cruise line. Sorry Princess I love your ships but entertainment is important to me and a 30 minute show is just too short.

 

We just got back from the Allure where we saw a 90 minute production of Chicago. The entertainment was at least 50 minutes or longer in all the other shows. I love the entertainment and this is how I book my cruises.

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30 min production shows are just a way to pass some time. The wait time to show time ratio is at least 1:1, sometimes higher. I have noticed during the last year or more that the production shows get very few Standing O's. I think the shows tend to be a single intensity for 30 mins. with no highs and lows, no big finish that gets you to stand.

On the Emerald this past January I noticed that the CD did not come on at the end with bad jokes and chatter about how to deposit your cash in the casino, while the passengers are trying to escape in the dark. It was a few quick announcements and then lights on. That was a positive, but don't know if that was just the CD or instructions fleet wide.

Some of the guest comics commented during their shows that they knew they were asked to keep the act to 30 mins., but they kept right on going. I got the feeling that they felt the time was too short to properly showcase their acts.

They can fit three 45min production shows into one night, without really changing the times around very much.

I also felt that most the evening's planned cruise staff activities are forced into 45min. windows instead of letting them proceed at their natural pace. Game shows cut short, karaoke cut off with singers wanting to sing, theme nights, a quick 45 min act and gone, etc.

 

Just my thoughts. I did rate entertainment low on the surveys.

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I enjoy the shows and this now confirms I am moving to another cruise line. Sorry Princess I love your ships but entertainment is important to me and a 30 minute show is just too short.

 

We just got back from the Allure where we saw a 90 minute production of Chicago. The entertainment was at least 50 minutes or longer in all the other shows. I love the entertainment and this is how I book my cruises.

 

I have not been on the Allure or any of her sister ships, but did hear that you needed to get tickets for these long Broadway shows. How does that work? Does that mean that only a select group gets to attend? Or is this shown over several evenings?

 

Just curious. Thanks for the information.

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There are two shows each night. You pre-book tickets (no-charge) before you sail, a certain time before the show, admission becomes general for anyone who did not get them before.

 

I have not been on the Allure or any of her sister ships, but did hear that you needed to get tickets for these long Broadway shows. How does that work? Does that mean that only a select group gets to attend? Or is this shown over several evenings?

 

Just curious. Thanks for the information.

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We have been on several cruises with the shorter format. We like the format. The timing fits in better with dining times. The format means that we can catch two different shows in an evening (usually some kind of show (music, comedy, etc.) is going on in Explorers Lounge each evening so we can catch the show in the theater and then catch a different show in Explorers.

 

On my recent CB cruise there was no second kind of show in Explorers or elsewhere. Just the one show in the Princess Theater.

 

Not only are the shows in the Princess Theater shorter, they have cut costs by not hiring a second set of entertainers to perform elsewhere.

 

There used to be 90 minutes (two different 45-minute entertainers/shows) of this type entertainment on the ship. Now there is just a single show which can be as short as 30 minutes. This is a cutback of 67% in entertainment other than by the various ship's bands. I am surprised so many say they like this better.

 

And on three of the seven evenings, they only had two performances in the Princess Theater, not three. So much for the theory that shorter shows allow more people to see them.

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The Oasis and the Allure have the reservation system. It's awesome! It is registered on your key card. You make no charge reservations 60 days before you sail (or onboard). You show up 11 minutes before the show begins and you get a good seat. There is a standby lineup for people without reservations and those people are let in 10 minutes before the show. You can change your reservations on your interactive TV. No tickets, guaranteed seat, long shows. Princess needs to rethink their entertainment policy!

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I just got off 2 weeks on the Crown a month ago. While the shows were indeed shorter, three was a lot of entertainment. In fact, there was no way we could see everything that was presented in one night.

 

that said, we saw an amazing variety of entertainment and enjoyed it all (well, the disco show was well performed, but I was never big on disco...).

 

They had music, a comedy magician, stage shows, comedians etc. even the guy from Crooners did show in the theater. And the CD took some of the entertainers and her CD staff and put on a show herself. It was corny, silly but great fun.

 

I think a lot has to do with the CD as to how much they book and how much they want to do.

 

As for cost, they didn't save much on our cruise because they had the acts and they had to pay them.

 

For ships that lacked entertainment, blame the CD....

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Thank goodness they don't have 90 minute shows on Princess. :eek:

Thats ridculous.

 

I have not been to one of these shows, but they are Broadway type Musicals--not just regular production shows. I am sure they are shortened and adapted from the original, but still I'd like to experience one, such as Chicago.

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I have not been to one of these shows, but they are Broadway type Musicals--not just regular production shows. I am sure they are shortened and adapted from the original, but still I'd like to experience one, such as Chicago.

 

I like them too, but not on a cruise ship. Thats just us though I guess.

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The Oasis and the Allure have the reservation system. You make no charge reservations 60 days before you sail (or onboard).....Princess needs to rethink their entertainment policy!

 

Making reservations in advance is practical for the passenger as long as the rest of each evening's schedule is known in advance so you know which night or which time you want to see a show. Otherwise you are just guessing at what you might want to do that far in advance..

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I enjoy the shows and this now confirms I am moving to another cruise line. Sorry Princess I love your ships but entertainment is important to me and a 30 minute show is just too short.

 

We just got back from the Allure where we saw a 90 minute production of Chicago. The entertainment was at least 50 minutes or longer in all the other shows. I love the entertainment and this is how I book my cruises.

 

I agree 100%.

 

We just returned from the Emerald and there was no show throughout the 14 day cruise that was longer than 35 minutes.

 

We even skipped a couple toward the end.

 

It's very disappointing if Princess is going this route.

 

We will note this in our survey.

 

Steve

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