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Conquest - Just got back - not too thrilled

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Before I start saying negative things about the Conquest, we had a wonderful time and it's all what you make of it. More than likely, we will sail again on a Carnival ship.

 

My husband and I and another couple did something bad and that was compare the Conquest to Disney. We sailed on 2 Disney ships (Magic and Wonder) and loved it. The Disney ships may not be for everybody. Most people that cruise, have their certain ship or cruise line that they like and Disney is definitely for us.

 

What dissappointed us was:

 

1) When entering Carnival, no one said anything it was like okay someone can greet us and say welcome. On Disney's ships, as you are entering lobby, they announce to everyone on a microphone, "Welcome (last name) from New Orleans, Louisiana," and the staff claps, smiles, and welcomes you. It makes you feel special.

 

2) Didn't think the food in dining room or pool area was as good on Carnival, especially desserts. It doesn't matter how you told them to cook steaks, they did it their way.

 

3) The Point (adult rest.) was not as nice as Palo (Disney's adult rest.), considering on Disney we paid $5.00 a person and it was $30.00 a person on Conquest. Over priced compared to Disney. Presentation of food was awesome at the Point, but the waitresses were not friendly at all - we tried to joke with them and laugh, and they were very cold. Husband said cheese tray was to die for. Desserts at the Point were the best on ship.

 

4) Every Jacuzzi was broken the entire cruise, and no one ever worked on them.

 

5) Shower in bathroom - c/n leave water on for more than 3 minutes or water would start to overflow onto bathroom floor. They looked into it 2 times and nothing was ever done.

 

6) Monet dining room was very nice, but waiter seemed to rush us and we had late seating. Every night we felt as if he wanted us to hurry and leave - and he didnt' seem too thrilled when we wanted more than one item - daughter ordered a cappuccino and he told her, "you don't want that, order a dessert." Needless to say, my husband wasn't too happy.

 

7) Disney's ship we rotated with our waiter/waitress between 3 very nice dining rooms. Thout it would have been nice to rotate on Conquest and experience the Renoir dining room.

 

8) My kids (10 and 12) were bored on Conquest. They didn't want to go to Camp Carnival b/c it was too small and weren't interested in activities. Disney's ship if you didn't want to go to their camp, there were a lot of activities to do around the ship that they could participate in. Conquest was mostly adult things. (Which I do understand b/c most honeymooners or people w/o kids don't want to be bothered with kids.)

 

8) Disney had a place for kids to go dance at night and have fun, no age restrictions - whereas Conquest was only for teenagers. Nothing to do for them after dinner but go to bed.

 

9) The staff on Conquest was definitely not as friendly as Disney's staff. The people selling pictures were not friendly.

 

Anyway, again, it's all what you make of your vacation and we had a wonderful time and will probably go on Carnival again, but they really need a lot of improvements with their staff, food, and activities for kids.

 

Now what really upsets me is that we didn't go to Jamaica, which I understand b/c of devestation from hurricane, but overheard someone in elevator saying she spoke to somene on another ship that was docked next to us (Carnival Miracle)and she said that other ships went to Jamaica and also got an onboard credit.

 

Then, we go to Cozumel, and should not have. Only 30% of island had electricity - cab driver told us. Spent $60.00 roundtrip to go to Nachi Cocom b/c we couldn't reach them. When we get there, they said they were closed because of all of the damage from hurricane. You wouldn't believe the electric lines down, the trees, debris, etc. To me, it was unsafe. Now, on the main strip in Cozumel, they did have electricity. Also heard from someone on Conquest that they went on their excursion in Cozumel and they shouldn't have b/c it was very unsafe - didn't hear details of why.

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Sorry to hear you did not like Conquest. It's my favorite ship so far but then I am single & do not have children so I won't ever be cruisung on Disney. You're absolutely right.......some ships & cruiselines are better suited to some people than others. I hope your next cruise on whatever line you choose will be better. :D

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Cool how they "introduced" each family as they boarded! But---seems like that would slow embarkation BIG TIME???

We have looked into Disney but it is quite a bit more...not just a little, but almost DOUBLE! I have never heard of anyone that did NOT like it...but just not sure I can rationalize that $$$$....

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Disney is made for kids....I can't imagine any other cruise line being comparable for families, especially with younger kids.

Let's face it...Carnival wasn't originally meant for families...what they did was start to market themselves as family friendly and toss in a Camp Carnival.....I haven't ever been on a Disney Cruise, but if you put the Disney name on something, you know it's going to be good for your kids because Disney is all about the kids...Carnival is not.

Comparing the two lines doesn't even come close to making any sense.

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Before I start saying negative things about the Conquest, we had a wonderful time and it's all what you make of it. More than likely, we will sail again on a Carnival ship.

 

My husband and I and another couple did something bad and that was compare the Conquest to Disney. We sailed on 2 Disney ships (Magic and Wonder) and loved it. The Disney ships may not be for everybody. Most people that cruise, have their certain ship or cruise line that they like and Disney is definitely for us.

 

What disappointed us was:

 

1) When entering Carnival, no one said anything it was like okay someone can greet us and say welcome. On Disney's ships, as you are entering lobby, they announce to everyone on a microphone, "Welcome (last name) from New Orleans, Louisiana," and the staff claps, smiles, and welcomes you. It makes you feel special.

 

2) Didn't think the food in dining room or pool area was as good on Carnival, especially desserts. It doesn't matter how you told them to cook steaks, they did it their way.

 

3) The Point (adult rest.) was not as nice as Palo (Disney's adult rest.), considering on Disney we paid $5.00 a person and it was $30.00 a person on Conquest. Over priced compared to Disney. Presentation of food was awesome at the Point, but the waitresses were not friendly at all - we tried to joke with them and laugh, and they were very cold. Husband said cheese tray was to die for. Desserts at the Point were the best on ship.

 

4) Every Jacuzzi was broken the entire cruise, and no one ever worked on them.

 

5) Shower in bathroom - c/n leave water on for more than 3 minutes or water would start to overflow onto bathroom floor. They looked into it 2 times and nothing was ever done.

 

6) Monet dining room was very nice, but waiter seemed to rush us and we had late seating. Every night we felt as if he wanted us to hurry and leave - and he didn't' seem too thrilled when we wanted more than one item - daughter ordered a cappuccino and he told her, "you don't want that, order a dessert." Needless to say, my husband wasn't too happy.

 

7) Disney's ship we rotated with our waiter/waitress between 3 very nice dining rooms. Thout it would have been nice to rotate on Conquest and experience the Renoir dining room.

 

8) My kids (10 and 12) were bored on Conquest. They didn't want to go to Camp Carnival b/c it was too small and weren't interested in activities. Disney's ship if you didn't want to go to their camp, there were a lot of activities to do around the ship that they could participate in. Conquest was mostly adult things. (Which I do understand b/c most honeymooners or people w/o kids don't want to be bothered with kids.)

 

8) Disney had a place for kids to go dance at night and have fun, no age restrictions - whereas Conquest was only for teenagers. Nothing to do for them after dinner but go to bed.

 

9) The staff on Conquest was definitely not as friendly as Disney's staff. The people selling pictures were not friendly.

 

Anyway, again, it's all what you make of your vacation and we had a wonderful time and will probably go on Carnival again, but they really need a lot of improvements with their staff, food, and activities for kids.

 

Now what really upsets me is that we didn't go to Jamaica, which I understand b/c of devestation from hurricane, but overheard someone in elevator saying she spoke to somene on another ship that was docked next to us (Carnival Miracle)and she said that other ships went to Jamaica and also got an onboard credit.

 

Then, we go to Cozumel, and should not have. Only 30% of island had electricity - cab driver told us. Spent $60.00 roundtrip to go to Nachi Cocom b/c we couldn't reach them. When we get there, they said they were closed because of all of the damage from hurricane. You wouldn't believe the electric lines down, the trees, debris, etc. To me, it was unsafe. Now, on the main strip in Cozumel, they did have electricity. Also heard from someone on Conquest that they went on their excursion in Cozumel and they shouldn't have b/c it was very unsafe - didn't hear details of why.

 

Sorry you were disappointed with the Conquest, IMHO I think you should stick with Disney. We went with 2 older teenagers & they had a blast.

We loved the Pointe Rest., only ended up going there twice but would have gone there more if we had gone there earlier in the week. We did encounter a wine steward that had an attitude problem & would have to search him out for another drink.

All I can say is that we really enjoyed the Conquest & would go again in a heartbeat!

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Sorry Disney Gang that the Conquest didn't stand up to Disney :( but you must realise a vacation is what you make it.. and comparing this and that thru out a vacation .. it really is not a vacation IMHO..:rolleyes: Hope you sail again happily on whichever cruise line you choose!!:)

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C'mon you guys- don't make the Disney person feel bad...all she did was state HER opinion...and she said she probably WOULD sail Carnival again...I, for one, appreciate her taking note of the differences. THere are differences in all the lines, and recognizing them up front is just increasing your knowledge...not knocking the other line, necessarily. She sounds like she made an honest assessment....doesn't mean WE have to AGREE that she is RIGHT,...it is just how SHE saw it...

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ok- maybe it just sounded that way to me. I notice lots of times that if anyone says complimentary things of another line, their opinions don't go over too well. Maybe I just misinterpreted.... :confused:

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e.g.--I would not like being introduced on microphone as I entered the ship-but, to each his own.

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e.g.--I would not like being introduced on microphone as I entered the ship
Exactly! I consider this highly intrusive. Not nearly as intrusive as those obnoxious wedding videographers, but darn close.

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Yeah, that intrduction thing must have been a killer slowdown. And we had an awful waiter last year on the Paradise (back when it was non-smoking) and we made the best of it.

 

Try the Carnival Pride!

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Don't be too critical. We were on the Miracle last week and talked to a few passengers on the Conquest. They ended up with four sea days, and the days they had in Grand Cayman and Cozumel it poured!

The Miracle had it's Costa Maya and Belize stops cancelled and we went to Jamaica(going east around Cuba to avoid Emily)Grand Cayman and Cozumel.We also ended up with an extra sea day. Suprisingly the calmest waters we've ever cruised in!

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Sorry that you didn't have such a great time! Well you are right about everyone having their own favorite cruise line. Although I have never cruised disney (but some of my family has) I think that Disney and Carnival are both for families! Carnival and Disney might do the same things and they might do things different. Each cruise line has their own way of doing things!

 

We love Carnival!

 

I hope your next cruise is better!!

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Seems like a fairly objective review to me. Sounds like, with the kids, they'd prefer Disney. Without, maybe they'd go carnival again sometime. Nothing wrong with that.

 

I will say that, regardless of cruise line, I will not tolerate poor or rude service. I am willing to give a pass on certain standards of the ship's condition, based on age (as long as it's clean), on certain standards of the food, based on price (as long as it's healthy), and certain standards on activities, based on the ship's target market (as long as it's not totally lame). However, rude or poor service cannot and should not be tolerated. Poor waiter? Eee the maitre 'd. Rude photogs? See the purser, etc., etc. I don't mean bitch and moan about every little thing, far from it, but if something really ain't right, you have a right and perhaps a duty to mention it to the proper authority. If they correct the situation, which I have found they are usually anxious to do, you are better off. If they don't, look elsewhere for that next cruise. Like fish, there are a lot of cruise ships in the sea! :)

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Spent $60.00 roundtrip to go to Nachi Cocom b/c we couldn't reach them.
WOW - how many people didyou have? Did they take you around the entire island? I thought the roads from the ship to that part of the island was pretty clear. I think it cost us $12.00 for 4 of us to go o Nachi last time - $24. round trip.

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I've sailed Disney, Carnival, RCCL, Princess, HAL,...

 

Disney is far more expensive than Carnival, whether you are comparing holiday sailings or not, it always comes out the most expensive. So, some of the extras the OP is referring to is related to the fact you pay more. The Disney ship was definitely top notch quality as was the entertainment. But, for us, and we had an 11 year old with us, it was too kid oriented. Even my son complained about all the kids. And though we did rotate dining rooms and that was kind of fun, the food on Carnival, at least in our experience, was better. I can understand why many people enjoy cruising Disney, especially those with younger children, I'm just not one of them. I do enjoy the casino (Disney doesn't have one) and some of the more adult focused entertainment.

 

Now the Carnival decor, well that's another story...

 

Bottom line, I've never been on a cruise I didn't like, each ship and itinerary meets different needs. I can say I probably won't book another Disney cruise, at least for a long long time; maybe when I have younger grandchildren.

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"Before I start saying negative things about the Conquest, we had a wonderful time and it's all what you make of it. More than likely, we will sail again on a Carnival ship." A direct quote from the OP.

 

I, too,think this was a well balanced review. They said they had a wonderful time and would probably sail on Carnival again. They mentioned the things that were not up to par for them and gave the reasons why.

 

I have read many reviews from Carnival cruisers who have tried another line and have not been overly wowed by the other cruise line........no one on this board takes them to task and tells them they were too picky, etc. Then again, I have read posts from those Carnival cruisers who have never tried another line putting down those who have tried other cruise lines and find they prefer them to Carnival. C'est la vie! Carnival is NOT my favorite cruise line by far, but I am going on them for the third time this upcoming February. Will I have a good time? Yes. Do I have certain expectations that I would like to have met? Yes. Do I know that some of them will not be met? Yes. Do I know that if I put a review here with the postives and the negatives and state I still enjoyed the cruise would I be met with criticism? Yes.

 

All ships and cruises have their positives and negatives.....being able to enjoy yourself and have a good time despite the negatives is the mark of a true cruiser. There will always be ships and cruises that are better than others you have been on. That's life.

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It's interesting what can happen when you start comparing things between cruiselines.

 

I got caught up with that on my second cruise, when I tried NCL. Compared EVERYTHING. Almost ruined my vacation. It was only after the cruise was over that I realized it was still a GREAT cruise.

 

When we tried Disney years later, first time cruising with a child, we saw everything in a new light. And we looked for the DIFFERENCES. We looked for the things that Disney excelled in. Yes, the onboard greet was unique and strange, but it was cute (to us). But that set the tone, and the impression, that the service was a cut above what we had previously experienced. We enjoyed the shows, the stateroom, actually the classiness of the ship itself. The food, however, was a disappointment. And the buffet area, a little disappointing as well. Got a little freaked out when we saw ALL THE KIDS, but we were of a different mindset then, having a 4 year old with us. The "FUN" was different, as it was all Disney. But that, we expected.

 

I came away having experienced a good time, but with a BEEN THERE DONE THAT attitude. But we did try Disney again, as extended family wanted to try it. Again, a great cruise, and even the food was better the second time, as they changed their menus. Not as good as Carnival, IMO, but that's all relative (I have a cousin who cruised with us last year that won't cruise Carnival again for the food).

 

In any case, thanks for your review. I'll be curious to read a review from you when you try a third line!

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Thanks for the review. Having sailed both Conquest and the Magic, I find your comments to be pretty dead on. I do feel for you in that you did get piled on a bit about why Carnival is better. Such is how it is on these boards!

 

That said, let me try to dispel some myths about Disney.

 

The announcement as you board does not slow embrakation one bit. As there are security gates to pass through thereis a lag time between those boarding and those passing through security. Plus there are two lines going through. Disney puts other cruise lines to shame when it comes to embarkation and disembarking (and I have sailed several lines).

 

Yes, Disney has a lot of kids - but you rarely see large groups of them because their clubs are on one deck. If you prefer to avoid them, stay off that deck! WIth adults only clubs, pool, and restaurant, escaping children is a piece of cake. In fact, I have felt more overrun on other mass market ships by children than on Disney.

 

Disney is not designed for children, it is designed for families and the young at heart. Sure, they cater to children rather well, but they don't forget mom and dad and honeymooners are always on board the DCL ships. We have sailed twice on the Magic without our daughter and found the experience terrific. Next year we plan to sail with our daughter and expect a different, but wholly wonderful experience.

 

And as for missing the casino? Not at all - if I needed to gamble, I'd go to Vegas. And if I just can't live without, there is usually a casino on land at one stop along the way.

 

So, I sound like I am preaching for Disney? Perhaps. But so many misperceptions abound and this thread was full of them. Did I enjoy my Carnival cruise? Sure, but I also enjoyed Disney and in many ways found it to be a superior product - just like Disney Gang. And as for the almost double price? I have found ways to get Disney cruises for roughly the same amount as on Carnival - then again I don't sail in high season.

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I do feel for you in that you did get piled on a bit about why Carnival is better. Such is how it is on these boards!

 

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After rereading my post I hope I didn't come off as someone being annoyed with the OP's review...I happen to think that too many people give Carnival too much credit for being a family line and I just can't see it. IF I had young kids and IF I were to take them on a cruise, Disney would be the cruise of choice.....no other line could possibly come close to offering as great a cruise experience for a child...no way. That's what I meant by the fact that you can't possibly compare the two lines. Although many posters feel Carnival is totally satisfactory for families, I don't find the atmosphere kid friendly at all.

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Disney Gang, Thanks for your objective review, never have sailed Disney and now my DD's are getting older I probably never will, but it is nice to see the comparison. Thanks

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We have not been on a Carnival Cruise. We have been on Disney and Royal Caribbean. Though we had a good time on both, my DDs prefer Royal Caribbean. They enjoyed the activities and kids clubs much more.

 

My DH and I will be traveling on the Conquest in October, 2005. Hopefully, we will have a better experience.

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