This Thread Is To Be Used For All Discussions About HAL's On Board Smoking Policies

[COLLEYBERRY]

Maybe that's what it's like where you are but I've never seen a joint rolled with tobacco.

 

Yes they call it multi- tasking...LOL LOL:D sorry :o

[cruz chic]

Maybe that's what it's like where you are but I've never seen a joint rolled with tobacco.

 

Yes they call it multi- tasking...LOL LOL:D sorry :o

 

Behave:D;).

[COLLEYBERRY]

Well what do you know ..ya learn something new every day....my pot knowledge is quite limited lol...sooo I asked my actor boy son...if tobacco is often used with marijuana...he said yes especially if the person smokes ...it apparently burns better and the smell is somewhat masked,,the French often use more tobacco and less marijuana (more expensive in France and charges are greater) this is called a French joint.

Never really thought I would ever have this conversation with my son ...he was perplexed his mother wanted to know how marijuana was used lol..looked relieved when I explained it was a Cruise Critic thing .:D

Edited September 20, 2014 by COLLEYBERRY

[babyher]

You definitely did not have to hang out with any particular crowd to smell it. Then or now. That's some kind of backhanded inference that those who know the smell hung out with the wrong crowd.

 

 

 

Well I went to high school at a very upscale private school with the children of the best families , and I can say I never smelled marijuana at any of their parties.................................... Those spoiled little brats had enough money to afford coke *LOL*

[lolane1]

Ready to get flamed.

 

I have just booked an expensive aft balcony on Princess traveling solo. It all came down to the money and not having to worry that my balcony experience would be ruined by smoking. My last cruise was on HAL this summer and fortunately we had no smokers around in the area. But, last Christmas I was on Norwegian and it was a nightmare. (smokers smoking in the room next door and on the balcony constantly)

 

It's a shame because I really liked HAL. Part of me is saddened but those are the breaks. So, for now, it's back to Princess.

 

PS, I am not on a campaign to get HAL to ban smoking. I am just sorry that, for now, I can't take the chance when bigger bucks are on the line. :(

[Lizzie68]

Well what do you know ..ya learn something new every day....my pot knowledge is quite limited lol...sooo I asked my actor boy son...if tobacco is often used with marijuana...he said yes especially if the person smokes ...it apparently burns better and the smell is somewhat masked,,the French often use more tobacco and less marijuana (more expensive in France and charges are greater) this is called a French joint.

Never really thought I would ever have this conversation with my son ...he was perplexed his mother wanted to know how marijuana was used lol..looked relieved when I explained it was a Cruise Critic thing .:D

 

LOL, that's funny.:D And I've learned something too - I have never heard of it being mixed with tobacco - I think they like it pure and simple here, LOL.

[cruz chic]

Well what do you know ..ya learn something new every day....my pot knowledge is quite limited lol...sooo I asked my actor boy son...if tobacco is often used with marijuana...he said yes especially if the person smokes ...it apparently burns better and the smell is somewhat masked,,the French often use more tobacco and less marijuana (more expensive in France and charges are greater) this is called a French joint.

Never really thought I would ever have this conversation with my son ...he was perplexed his mother wanted to know how marijuana was used lol..looked relieved when I explained it was a Cruise Critic thing .:D

 

That's what happens when you use 25 year old info:D.

[COLLEYBERRY]

LOL, that's funny.:D And I've learned something too - I have never heard of it being mixed with tobacco - I think they like it pure and simple here, LOL.

 

Hi from Ontario !!.... Yes must be a West Coast thing :D

[COLLEYBERRY]

That's what happens when you use 25 year old info:D.

 

 

Yes but these youngins ...probably aren't having as much fun as we did.:D

[sail7seas]

Well I went to high school at a very upscale private school with the children of the best families , and I can say I never smelled marijuana at any of their parties.................................... Those spoiled little brats had enough money to afford coke *LOL*

 

LOL..... you're probably right! :eek:

 

My lack of exposure had nothing to do with money but everything to do with being naïve,

sheltered :shrug: and fear. :D

 

Edited September 20, 2014 by sail7seas

[babyher]

Yes but these youngins ...probably aren't having as much fun as we did.:D

 

 

I was a youngin' in the 80s , and I will say I had a ball .

 

i now have 4 kids all in their 20s and I have to say they put me to shame in some aspects .

 

 

Like everything else, some changes for the better, some for the worse .

[babyher]

LOL..... you're probably right! :eek:

 

My lack of exposure had nothing to do with money but everything to do with being naïve,

sheltered :shrug: and fear. :D

 

 

 

 

I always seemed to have a job that exposed me to every side of life, The good , the bad and the ugly . My naivte and rose colored glasses were ripped off me and smashed a long time ago. I may not have" been there, done that" everything. but I sure saw it and heard about it up close and personal.

 

I never appreciated all those experiences more than when my kids were growing up. I knew every trick in the book they were trying to pull, before they even opened the book and found the page *LOL*

[Lizzie68]

I always seemed to have a job that exposed me to every side of life, The good , the bad and the ugly . My naivte and rose colored glasses were ripped off me and smashed a long time ago. I may not have" been there, done that" everything. but I sure saw it and heard about it up close and personal.

 

I never appreciated all those experiences more than when my kids were growing up. I knew every trick in the book they were trying to pull, before they even opened the book and found the page *LOL*

 

I think I was "naive" until well into my thirties and on some thing even later. I would be embarrassed to tell of the things I had no idea about and which "everyone else" seems to have known.:o However, you learn as you go along, and it so much better to actually experience life - without getting into anything you shouldn't - than live on the periphery and get to our age and still have no clue.:D Not sure if that makes sense but hope you get my gist.

 

And as to that smell - I mentioned earlier about a grow op in my area that the RCMP still haven't found. It vents in the middle of the night now and then. Last night was one of those - I awoke to the sickening smell throughout the bedroom and had to get up and close windows, turn on a fan and put my head under the sheet to try to get back to sleep. Yuk. Sure hope they bust it soon.

[babyher]

I think I was "naive" until well into my thirties and on some thing even later. I would be embarrassed to tell of the things I had no idea about and which "everyone else" seems to have known.:o However, you learn as you go along, and it so much better to actually experience life - without getting into anything you shouldn't - than live on the periphery and get to our age and still have no clue.:D Not sure if that makes sense but hope you get my gist.

 

And as to that smell - I mentioned earlier about a grow op in my area that the RCMP still haven't found. It vents in the middle of the night now and then. Last night was one of those - I awoke to the sickening smell throughout the bedroom and had to get up and close windows, turn on a fan and put my head under the sheet to try to get back to sleep. Yuk. Sure hope they bust it soon.

 

 

 

 

I know exactly what you mean

 

 

And I would be embarresed to tell you a few things I knew "Everything" about *LOL*

 

You live and you learn *LOL*

[sail7seas]

I think I was "naive" until well into my thirties and on some thing even later. I would be embarrassed to tell of the things I had no idea about and which "everyone else" seems to have known.:o However, you learn as you go along, and it so much better to actually experience life - without getting into anything you shouldn't - than live on the periphery and get to our age and still have no clue.:D Not sure if that makes sense but hope you get my gist.

 

And as to that smell - I mentioned earlier about a grow op in my area that the RCMP still haven't found. It vents in the middle of the night now and then. Last night was one of those - I awoke to the sickening smell throughout the bedroom and had to get up and close windows, turn on a fan and put my head under the sheet to try to get back to sleep. Yuk. Sure hope they bust it soon.

 

 

 

I, too, get exactly what you are saying. ;)

 

Always keep in mind you only know of any of us here on the world wide internet that which we show you.

 

Few here knew anything of what I had been living the last 2 years. I didn't tell many.

 

I also feel a little naivty in life is not always a bad thing. There are some things in life I hope I never learn about. Our curiosities branch in many directions and we are not all the same. I don't want birds eye view into the drug world. Not to say I necessarily think marijuana is so terrible as I do not.

I voted to approve it for medicinal use in MA/ to non-criminalize it. ;) Of all the work law enforcement has to do, I don't think arresting people for two or three joints is a priority.

 

[Sow There]

... Not to say I necessarily think marijuana is so terrible as I do not.

 

I voted to approve it for medicinal use in MA/ to non-criminalize it. ;) Of all the work law enforcement has to do, I don't think arresting people for two or three joints is a priority.

 

Now we're getting somewhere.

 

I agree that no one should be arrested for smoking a joint or two. Similarly I don't think anyone should be arrested for smoking a cigarette or two. But just think how our laws are contradictory. I can be arrested (misdemeanor) for smoking a cigarette outdoors within 20 feet of a building entrance in Berkeley CA but I can smoke all the joints I want in that same proximity. Worse, if I make less than $30k a year (their defined poverty level), the City of Berkeley will provide me with free joints. But I can't buy cigarettes with food stamps.

 

Getting back on the smoking on a HAL ship topic, there will always be a conflict between those who smoke and those who are affected emotionally by smelling cigarette smoke. I smoke a pipe in my own home. I carried a small pack of Captain Black tobacco in my briefcase on a commuter train. I sat down and opened my briefcase to pull out some papers I planned to read. My seatmate went into a major hissy fit because she smelled the tobacco, called the conductor and tried to have me kicked off the train. The conductor was holding back on his laughter and told the woman that I was doing nothing at all wrong.

 

I have the same attitude about the admittedly less than pleasant smell of cigarette smoke as I do about many perfumes; especially those that are used to cover up an offensive body odor...but neither of these fall under the same principle that Sail enunciated, "...I don't think arresting people for two or three joints is a priority."

 

 

Edited September 20, 2014 by Sow There

[Lizzie68]

I, too, get exactly what you are saying. ;)

 

Always keep in mind you only know of any of us here on the world wide internet that which we show you.

 

Few here knew anything of what I had been living the last 2 years. I didn't tell many.

 

I also feel a little naivty in life is not always a bad thing. There are some things in life I hope I never learn about. Our curiosities branch in many directions and we are not all the same. I don't want birds eye view into the drug world. Not to say I necessarily think marijuana is so terrible as I do not.

I voted to approve it for medicinal use in MA/ to non-criminalize it. ;) Of all the work law enforcement has to do, I don't think arresting people for two or three joints is a priority.

 

 

I think it might be of some comfort to you to know and understand you are absolutely and definitely not alone - many others here (because we are a community and like the "real world" death, tragedy and illness and suffering in other ways happens in a community) suffer through living hell from time to time. There is help out there. It helps to share it in the right quarters.

[sail7seas]

I think it might be of some comfort to you to know and understand you are absolutely and definitely not alone - many others here (because we are a community and like the "real world" death, tragedy and illness and suffering in other ways happens in a community) suffer through living hell from time to time. There is help out there. It helps to share it in the right quarters.

 

 

 

As always, I 'get' you message. ;)

Of course, I am aware most of us have pain, strife, problems, issues........

We all choose to share as much or little as we wish. Personal choices as in most things.

 

Personal choice whether to smoke on a balcony, whether to continue to book a cruise line that permits smoking on balconies or to move to one that bans it, personal choice how to interact with others around us. How much kindness or nastiness; how to approach the smoker next door to you who may be offensive. How much understanding of others. Some cannot help themselves in certain situations.

 

Edited September 20, 2014 by sail7seas

[CowPrincess]

I think it might be of some comfort to you to know and understand you are absolutely and definitely not alone - many others here (because we are a community and like the "real world" death, tragedy and illness and suffering in other ways happens in a community) suffer through living hell from time to time. There is help out there. It helps to share it in the right quarters.

 

You are right Lizzie. Both about the tragedies that people suffer, and the fact that help is available. I know from personal experience that finding the right help is a blessing beyond measure.

[Fouremco]

During last week's Alaska cruise on the Oosterdam, there was a non-smoking day in the casino. I don't know if it was a one-off event or part of a study to see what the impact would be if HAL was to institute a permanent smoke-free casino policy, but I suspect the latter.

[cruz chic]

During last week's Alaska cruise on the Oosterdam, there was a non-smoking day in the casino. I don't know if it was a one-off event or part of a study to see what the impact would be if HAL was to institute a permanent smoke-free casino policy, but I suspect the latter.

 

There generally is a non smoking day in the casino per cruise.

[sail7seas]

We've had the no-smoking in casino nights on several cruises through the years. It doesn't mean much so far as I can see as it's been years they have done it from time to time. Even when they call a night no-smoking the casino stinks anyway. It carries that smoke smell always.

 

[cruiseing marly]

On the Masdam now the ship is almost smoke free . Have seen only one smoker in the casino. No smokers on any balconies close to our cabin. The smoking area at the back pool area has only a few smoker's. If smokers are all migrating I wonder where they are!

 

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[Califonria cruiser]

Sorry for the smoking question,tried posting on the smoke thread, but it was closed.

 

I am overly sensitive to smoke, always have and on all the cruises we have been on, never been an issue, but I have never sailed Holland America or the Baltic so figure it may be an issue and wondering what the options are.

 

Are there any bars that are smoke free so I can get a drink? Are there any music venues that are smoke free so I can go to the shows?

 

Figure if they are the only cruise line that is smoker friendly nowadays, guess they will get more of those passengers and wondering if there is a place for me, too or whether I need to rethink it.

 

I love the itinerary so am trying to make it work.

 

Did people find it overwhelming?

 

Jenn

[InTheWASide]

Sorry for the smoking question,tried posting on the smoke thread, but it was closed.

 

I am overly sensitive to smoke, always have and on all the cruises we have been on, never been an issue, but I have never sailed Holland America or the Baltic so figure it may be an issue and wondering what the options are.

 

Are there any bars that are smoke free so I can get a drink? Are there any music venues that are smoke free so I can go to the shows?

 

Figure if they are the only cruise line that is smoker friendly nowadays, guess they will get more of those passengers and wondering if there is a place for me, too or whether I need to rethink it.

 

I love the itinerary so am trying to make it work.

 

Did people find it overwhelming?

 

Jenn

 

We'll keep the answer real basic and factual since it's outside the main smoking thread. Here is HAL's posted policy:

 

For the comfort of all of our guests, all staterooms (cabins), showrooms and most other indoor areas are designated non-smoking. While smoking is not permitted in staterooms, guests are allowed to smoke on stateroom verandahs. Smoking is also permitted on certain other designated, outside decks. The designated smoking areas for all ships are as follows unless otherwise noted.

Stateroom verandahs

Casino (Active players only)

Seaview Bar

Outside Decks

Sports Deck

Observation Deck (ms Prinsendam, ms Eurodam, ms Nieuw Amsterdam, ms Noordam, ms Oosterdam, ms Westerdam, and ms Zuiderdam only)

Cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted on the outside decks where smoking is otherwise allowed and on stateroom verandahs. Electronic cigarettes are permitted in staterooms but not in other public areas of the ship other than on outside decks designated as smoking areas.

Any guest who smokes inside staterooms in violation of our policy will be charged a US$250 cleaning fee per day of violation.