Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #251 Share Posted February 13, 2016 This is a pretty interesting video I dug up of the Crown Princess that had a listing issue about 10 years ago. It had a list of 24 degrees and you can see how severe it is in the simulator. If you search Crown Princess incident there are also many onboard security videos of the incident itself. Pretty wild ride. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 13, 2016 #252 Share Posted February 13, 2016 http://www.mar.ist.utl.pt/mventura/Projecto-Navios-I/IMO-Conventions%20(copies)/SOLAS.pdf Thanks! Don't need TOC when you have document search. Now for some light reading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted February 13, 2016 #253 Share Posted February 13, 2016 A true 45deg list, even as part of a roll, would likely result in some severe injuries, people could get flung against balcony doors for just one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneught77 Posted February 13, 2016 #254 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Thanks! Don't need TOC when you have document search. Now for some light reading... I used the search function... couldn't find anything under 45 degree except for visibility. As far as listing goes.. this is the only one that seems to fall in the category you are discussing. I could be wrong though. 6. Main propulsion machinery and all auxiliary machinery essential to the propulsion and the safety of the ship shall, as fitted in the ship, be designed to operate when the ship is upright and when inclined at any angle of list up to and including 15° either way under static conditions and 22.5° under dynamic conditions (rolling) either way and simultaneously inclined dynamically (pitching) 7.5° by bow or stern. The Administration may permit deviation from these angles, taking into consideration the type, size and service conditions of the ship This was on page 126 Edited February 13, 2016 by kneught77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashoor Posted February 13, 2016 #255 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Stupid question, is there only one version of every ship out there? i.e 1 Anthem of the Seas, 1 Royal Princess, 1 Celebrity Eclipse etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeadisguise Posted February 13, 2016 #256 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Only one that's active at any given time. Some lines will reuse names as ships leave the fleet and new one join -- this is the 4th Royal Princess, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 13, 2016 #257 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Stupid question, is there only one version of every ship out there? i.e 1 Anthem of the Seas, 1 Royal Princess, 1 Celebrity Eclipse etc. Not exactly sure what you mean. Anthem is one of three Quantum class ships that are very similar: Quantum, Anthem, and Ovation. Royal has several classes of ships, with multiple very similar ships in each class. Exceptions would be Majesty and Empress of which there are currently no other ships in Royal's fleet that are considered sister ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted February 13, 2016 #258 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Stupid question, is there only one version of every ship out there? i.e 1 Anthem of the Seas, 1 Royal Princess, 1 Celebrity Eclipse etc. Are you referring to design or name. With Royal and Celebrity as with other lines, their ships all belong to a design class. Anthem is from the Quantum Class and Eclipse from Celebrity's Solstice Class. I'm not completely familiar with the class designs of the other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kite99 Posted February 13, 2016 #259 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) I was on the last sailing. We had a calm and peaceful few days after the storm. The ship was absolutely seaworthy, and there were still some significant swells on the way back. I would be bummed on this next cruise if all the outside attractions that stayed closed for us (Northstar, ifly, etc...) remained closed. Edited February 13, 2016 by Kite99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashoor Posted February 13, 2016 #260 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Not exactly sure what you mean. Anthem is one of three Quantum class ships that are very similar: Quantum, Anthem, and Ovation. Royal has several classes of ships, with multiple very similar ships in each class. Exceptions would be Majesty and Empress of which there are currently no other ships in Royal's fleet that are considered sister ships. You know how each class has different ships. For example the Oasis class has Oasis, Allure etc. Is there only 1 ship named Allure of the Seas and 1 ship named Oasis of the Seas and so on? Reason I ask is given what happened with the Anthem of the Seas, if someone booked on this ship for the purpose of trying it out and the ship is no longer available due to damages sustained, that person wouldn't be happy to be put on a different ship (even if it is for same itinerary) But if you had a spare 'Anthem of the Seas' it could easily replace the one that went through the storm. Now I understand it is not feasible to have two ships for each name just in case something like this happens, but I just thought they may have two different ships for certain ships. For example, they could have an Anthem of the Seas that serves the eastern Caribbean and another that serves the Australian coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchananglasgow Posted February 13, 2016 #261 Share Posted February 13, 2016 and his bunch of $$ hungry weather bug rejects. Would you take your beloved family aboard...I wouldn`t Why would you not. I'd jump at the chance. And have full conifedence in the captain. A very experienced and capable sailor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBill99 Posted February 14, 2016 #262 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Now I understand it is not feasible to have two ships for each name just in case something like this happens, but I just thought they may have two different ships for certain ships. For example, they could have an Anthem of the Seas that serves the eastern Caribbean and another that serves the Australian coast. Sorry but this is just ridiculous. Can you imagine how confusing it would be to book a cruise when there are two completely different itineraries being done under the same name, possibly with 2 different cruises leaving on the same day? And what possible benefit would it serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 14, 2016 #263 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Here you go ... http://www.mar.ist.utl.pt/mventura/Projecto-Navios-I/IMO-Conventions%20(copies)/SOLAS.pdf It is 910 pages and no table of contents. It would be easier to ask the captain or chief engineer on your next cruise. Nothing regarding your claim in there that I see Sent from my B1-730HD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 14, 2016 #264 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) You know how each class has different ships. For example the Oasis class has Oasis, Allure etc. Is there only 1 ship named Allure of the Seas and 1 ship named Oasis of the Seas and so on? Reason I ask is given what happened with the Anthem of the Seas, if someone booked on this ship for the purpose of trying it out and the ship is no longer available due to damages sustained, that person wouldn't be happy to be put on a different ship (even if it is for same itinerary) But if you had a spare 'Anthem of the Seas' it could easily replace the one that went through the storm. Now I understand it is not feasible to have two ships for each name just in case something like this happens, but I just thought they may have two different ships for certain ships. For example, they could have an Anthem of the Seas that serves the eastern Caribbean and another that serves the Australian coast. Wow...This makes little to no sense. A "spare" Anthem? These are billion dollar ships, they just don't have another lying around. I understand what you are saying, but it just doesn't make sense. It would be easier for Royal to just have a disappointed customer. And even if the ship was taken out of service for repairs, it would only be for a short time. Edited February 14, 2016 by OfTheSeasCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted February 14, 2016 #265 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Wow...This makes little to no sense. A "spare" Anthem? These are billion dollar ships, they just don't have another lying around. I understand what you are saying, but it just doesn't make sense. It would be easier for Royal to just have a disappointed customer. And even if the ship was taken out of service for repairs, it would only be for a short time. I was afraid that poster was asking something way off the charts. Wow, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 14, 2016 #266 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Nothing regarding your claim in there that I see Sent from my B1-730HD using Tapatalk I have the DVD. I'll figure out how to get the clip from it that mentions the SOLAR regulation so you can see it with your own eyes. Standby (or sit by or lay by - whatever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 14, 2016 #267 Share Posted February 14, 2016 You know how each class has different ships. For example the Oasis class has Oasis, Allure etc. Is there only 1 ship named Allure of the Seas and 1 ship named Oasis of the Seas and so on?... Only one ship of each name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercat Posted February 14, 2016 #268 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was afraid that poster was asking something way off the charts. Wow, just wow. From 3 out of 5 Pinnacle shirts stolen, George Steinbrenner, too cheap to tip, and now spare Anthems, I had to check the lunar calendar. Nope, no full moon today. No full moon yesterday, and no full moon tomorrow. The Internet is a strange place today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnetpalmetto Posted February 14, 2016 #269 Share Posted February 14, 2016 From 3 out of 5 Pinnacle shirts stolen, George Steinbrenner, too cheap to tip, and now spare Anthems, I had to check the lunar calendar. Nope, no full moon today. No full moon yesterday, and no full moon tomorrow. The Internet is a strange place today I blame El Nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercat Posted February 14, 2016 #270 Share Posted February 14, 2016 i blame el nino. lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 14, 2016 #271 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I have the DVD. I'll figure out how to get the clip from it that mentions the SOLAR regulation so you can see it with your own eyes. Standby (or sit by or lay by - whatever). Put up the whole DVD. [emoji51] [emoji106] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted February 14, 2016 #272 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I have the DVD. I'll figure out how to get the clip from it that mentions the SOLAR regulation so you can see it with your own eyes. Standby (or sit by or lay by - whatever). This clip comes from the Voyager sea trials ... http://vid18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/ZefH/DSC_7443_zpskxtuee5s.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha43 Posted February 14, 2016 #273 Share Posted February 14, 2016 and his bunch of $$ hungry weather bug rejects. Would you take your beloved family aboard...I wouldn`t Absolutely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashoor Posted February 14, 2016 #274 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was afraid that poster was asking something way off the charts. Wow, just wow. I already warned that it was a stupid question. But then again, I am not as experienced as some of you guys are about cruising, so I don't think there is anything wrong with asking. If I can't ask a question about cruising here, where would I? I thought that when one ship comes back, another namesake ship is ready to leave. And while the other one is gone, the other one is being cleaned and prepared for the next trip and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 14, 2016 #275 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I thought that when one ship comes back, another namesake ship is ready to leave. And while the other one is gone, the other one is being cleaned and prepared for the next trip and so on. Like in the airline business, they only make money when they are underway with paying passengers. The business model simply does not allow for spare equipment laying around not making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now