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crystalfeather

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We just returned from the cruise out of Vancouver to Hawaii and back to San Diego. The last part of the trip my husbby and I got sick with what we thought was a cold. I am going into my 16th day with this bug. We have been to docs and are are meds that don't seem to be working. I was wondering if anyone else got sick on this cruise??? We heard that a lot of people did, this has never happend before on any of our cruises....it is a bad way to end a cruise and made us think that it may be our last one.It is just not worth it to get this sick.:(

I loved the upgrades on the ship, everything seemed very clean, they had hand sanatizer at every food area,( not everyone used it) but on the last day when we were waiting in our room for our nueber to be called to exit the ship, I watched the cabin steward across from me pull all the sheets and pillows off the bed for the next guests and leave the blanket!! I am sorry but I think that leaving a blanket that someone else has been sleeping on for days is not a very sanitary practice.

 

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Your physician needs to know his/her Rx isn't working. You've had this too long to be the norovirus that occasionally breaks out on ships and in other "confined" spaces. It could have come from anywhere ... even off the ship. I hope you can soon get effective treatment.

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We just returned from the cruise out of Vancouver to Hawaii and back to San Diego. The last part of the trip my husbby and I got sick with what we thought was a cold. I am going into my 16th day with this bug. We have been to docs and are are meds that don't seem to be working. I was wondering if anyone else got sick on this cruise??? We heard that a lot of people did, this has never happend before on any of our cruises....it is a bad way to end a cruise and made us think that it may be our last one.It is just not worth it to get this sick.:(

I wasn't on this cruise, but I do know that there is a very nasty bug going around. I've been battling it now for almost two weeks and finally broke down and went to the doctor once I realized I would have to stay home from work yet another night. The doc told me that he's had a lot of people in with it ... and it is very persistent. It will linger. If this is the same thing you're dealing with, it's a variety of lung infection ... hacking cough, fever, the works. Half the people at my job have it too ... probably caught it from me before I decided to stay home.

 

Blue skies and hope you feel better ...

 

--rita

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We were on 15 cruises, then I got pneunomia (sp.) on the Maasdam (Van to FLL) the doctor cleared it up . Have been on 4 cruises since and that was the only illness.

 

DH has had 2 colds in all these years.

 

Hope you get well soon and if you fall off a horse (cruise) get right back on:D

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I wasn't on this cruise, but I do know that there is a very nasty bug going around. I've been battling it now for almost two weeks and finally broke down and went to the doctor once I realized I would have to stay home from work yet another night. The doc told me that he's had a lot of people in with it ... and it is very persistent. It will linger. If this is the same thing you're dealing with, it's a variety of lung infection ... hacking cough, fever, the works. Half the people at my job have it too ... probably caught it from me before I decided to stay home.

 

Blue skies and hope you feel better ...

 

--rita

 

I have to seriously question people who insist on dragging themselves to work when they knowthey are sick - a "hacking cough, fever, the works" definitely, to my mind, indicates that a visit to the doctor is called for. Your admission that your workmates were probably infected by you is of little consolation.

 

I've learned that no one is indespensible, not even me! - it's like putting your hand in a bucket of water - while it's there, there's space for it, take it out and the space is gone......think about it!

 

I do hope you are now feeling better 'rita' and wish you 'Blue skies' on future cruises. :) :) :)

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I work in a hospital and we have had many patients with some sort of upper respiratory infection in the past two months. It's viral, so antibiodics aren't going to help any. You can get cough medicine with codeine in it to help quiet the cough and let you sleep. Some patients are also needing asthma inhailers because they are wheezing and unable to take deep breaths.

 

You most likely did not catch this on the ship. The virus has an incubation period of 1-3 weeks in your body before you start showing symptoms.

 

Tips to avoid getting this...wash your hands compulsively and don't touch your face with your hands.

 

Hope you feel better very soon!

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Hello Chrystalfeather

 

I am been as well on this marbles cruise.

 

It is correct; that we have had some rolling days on open see, but nevertheless, my wife and I did not became seasick.

 

Personally, I do not see how the not exchange of cabin blanket will bring a sanitary injury, because I never have seen that hotels do so – but if this is a problem, then world-wide a lot of traveler should be sick permanently.

 

Supplementary, your count is strange "last part of the trip" and today "16 days with this bug", because the MS Statendam is arrived at San Diego on Monday 3 of October – so almost you should be already sick just a day or two after departure from Astoria.

But on this stage, there was not a blanket question, but vessel wide I have heard that people complained that it was to warm. So your cold is maybe not really a cold, but an other kind of sickness.

 

Here in Europe people say: the re-establish after an cold takes while NOT taking medicaments 7 days, but while do so, it takes 1 week!!!

And believe me, usually it is following this "rules" --> or this is an other indicator that you do not have an cold problem, but something else…

 

Did you go to the on-board Physician – or how did you got medicaments ?

 

 

Hope you come back to normal live very soon,

 

 

Best regards, G E R D

 

 

 

 

MS Ryndam – Wayfarer – March 1997

MS Noordam - Transatlantic Island Hook - April 2001

MS Volendam - Southern Caribbean - April 2002

MS Volendam - Westfarer Caribbean - April 2004

MS Prinsendam - Windmills & Waterford – September 20

MS Westerdam - Western Caribbean - April 2005

MS Statendam - Hawaii Circle - September 2005

 

82 days - almost 22'500 Nm

 

Future Cruises :

 

MS Rotterdam - Vikings and Czars - July 2006

MS RYNDAM - Southern Caribbean - March 2007

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I have to seriously question people who insist on dragging themselves to work when they knowthey are sick - a "hacking cough, fever, the works" definitely, to my mind, indicates that a visit to the doctor is called for. Your admission that your workmates were probably infected by you is of little consolation.

Problem is that by the time the hacking cough, fever ... the works ... came on, and I did stay home (I've been home a total of six days now ... four workdays and now my "weekend" ... Tuesday and Wednesday night) ... it was probably too late. The infection was spread. That's the problem. You would gladly stay home if you felt that bad ... or if you really knew you were sick ... but you're still going to work because the symptoms have not really kicked in yet and you honestly think you just have allegeries.

 

Believe me ... I am a union employee covered by a pretty decent contract. I was out of work for almost five months after my parachuting accident in '99 and got paid for every single one of those days. All I need in order to stay home from work is a doctor's note, and I only need that if I am beyond three consecutive days out sick. I will gladly go in search of that note if I am sick ... as I did in this case. I have no misconceptions about being "indispensible" ... believe me. My company is in the process right now of "purging" a minimum of 100 employees by the end of the year. So, who's indispensible? :(

 

Blue skies ...

 

--rita

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To make things more clear, We left Vancouver on Friday Sept. 16th. I got sick on the 25th. I am into my 18th day, it is not norovirus which is a intestinal virus but a infection in my chest and head.I have never had a virus like this, you can't sleep! My husbby and I just can't sleep we feel so awful!

 

I have worked in a hospice and I know that a "blanket' can harbor germs from the sick person who has been sleeping with it. I think that you would be surprised at what your eyes can't see in a cabin or a hotel room. I think 20/20 did a program a few years ago on this very subject. They went into top notch hotels with special lights and biologists and with the special lights they could see blood, semen,and feces on the blankets, sheets, walls, floors etc. The samples they took from the counters and things that get touched a lot were unbelievable! They harbored many bacterial and viral germs.This is in a room that is supposed to be clean for the next guest!

SO I do think it is a very good idea to "remove" a blanket with the dirty sheets. I hope that the people in room 123 on the statendam do not get sick, if they do they got it from me! Because they are sleeping with my dirty blanket.

I heard that a lot of people were sick on board from my cabin steward, when I got sick I stayed in my room and ordered room service as to not spread what I had, there were a lot of very old people on this cruise and if they got what I have I think it could really be dangerous for them especially if they have a bad immune system.

I am not too sure I will go cruising again...

CrystalFeather

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You are not right about the incubation period, a cold had an incubation period of 12 hours to 5 days, usually 48 hours. Flu is two to five days, this information I found on the internet. The virus can live for hours on surfaces in a humid room. SO according to my calculations, we were exposed on the ship, seeing that I had been on the ship 9 days before I developed my symptoms.

Holland America and other ships need to strip all the bedding and use a strong disinfectant in every cabin! If they don't they are doing a great disservice to thier customers!

Crystal Feather

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Problem is that by the time the hacking cough, fever ... the works ... came on, and I did stay home (I've been home a total of six days now ... four workdays and now my "weekend" ... Tuesday and Wednesday night) ... it was probably too late. The infection was spread. That's the problem. You would gladly stay home if you felt that bad ... or if you really knew you were sick ... but you're still going to work because the symptoms have not really kicked in yet and you honestly think you just have allegeries.

 

Believe me ... I am a union employee covered by a pretty decent contract. I was out of work for almost five months after my parachuting accident in '99 and got paid for every single one of those days. All I need in order to stay home from work is a doctor's note, and I only need that if I am beyond three consecutive days out sick. I will gladly go in search of that note if I am sick ... as I did in this case. I have no misconceptions about being "indispensible" ... believe me. My company is in the process right now of "purging" a minimum of 100 employees by the end of the year. So, who's indispensible? :(

 

Blue skies ...

 

--rita

 

I know what you're saying! Since last Friday I've been feeling 'not quite right' but 'not quite sick' - I call it feeling 'punk'. Yesterday I woke up with a temperature and a dry hacking cough - my head housed an army of energetic 'little drummer boys'. Today is no different so I called my Doc. 'Stay home' he says, 'take Tylenol,drink plenty of fluids, see me Monday if you don't feel better'. Chances are I've infected a few friends........l hate little drummer boys! :(

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I know what you're saying! Since last Friday I've been feeling 'not quite right' but 'not quite sick' - I call it feeling 'punk'. Yesterday I woke up with a temperature and a dry hacking cough - my head housed an army of energetic 'little drummer boys'. Today is no different so I called my Doc. 'Stay home' he says, 'take Tylenol,drink plenty of fluids, see me Monday if you don't feel better'. Chances are I've infected a few friends........l hate little drummer boys! :(

... And a raw throat? If so, that sounds like exactly what I've been battling ... and the battle still rages on. :(

 

Blue skies ...

 

--rita

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