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I love reading all the Seabourne posts. Congrats to the crew who safely spirited the ship away from the pirates.

 

I just returned from a Sea Dream cruise - wonderful experience- where I learned a lot about the ties to Seabourne. A delicate question, but one I have to ask. On my cruise was a passenger who was a trifle (well substantially more than a trifle) difficult to handle.:(

 

The rumor from other repeat passengers was that this person had been banned from Seabourne and I was wondering if any of you regulars knew of any such person and what action caused the banning?

 

 

Thanks

FT

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MB -

 

no specific reason given, but on this recent cruise the person liked to appear at crew only events without an invitation (which drove certain crew members crazy); cause the rearrangement of selected activities; purport to represent Sea Dream management; claimed to have access to private passenger information such as passenger manifest; claimed to control who sat at captain's table . . . .

 

most of it was nonsense of course,:rolleyes: but was very irritating and seems to be tolerated by ship's management.

 

FT

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No, MB, the person was a female though her spouse participated in some of the crew event invasions -- the rest of us respected the Captain's request to allow the crew to use the main salon for an evening, while they crashed a crew only party. She also showed up at the waiter's meetings. The couple invaded the crew mess several times and insisted on special treatment.

 

The irritating passenger dropped a lot of names but it did seem like nonsense.

 

The owner and his family was on board the week before we boarded but not on the cruise while we were there.

 

There seemed to be a consensus that if any passenger could be banned, this person should be. Again, however, management tolerated the antics. Word spread round the ship very quickly when at dinner she told the Captain that he was "full of sh_ _." :eek: Gentleman that he was, the Captain just smiled and we just changed the subject. After that though the couple had a even tougher time finding partners for dinner and drinks.

 

FT

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F.T. I DO declare!!!! I have never heard of anyone this rude......certainly no one that I have ever met or seen on a Seabourn ship!

"She" was an imposter.......had to have been!

I've never even heard of anything quite like this......

A mystery.......

I'll do a 'lit investigating.......

Martita B.

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I know of a couple and their small children who were "disembarked" on a Seabourn cruise because they were out of control and disrupted the ambiance of the entire ship. They were also abusive to the staff. Thus, the captain made the decision to escort them off at the next port. Good choice!

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I am sure that just about EVERY ship has banned certain passengers. Too bad that some people turn into jerks, but I am sure it happens. Even with the cost of Seabourn, some of the dregs of society still manage to slip through. Stupidity has no boundries.

 

Luckily EVERYONE on this board is above that and will treat fellow passengers with respect.

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Gary....AMEN to your post!! I believe we certainly try to treat everyone with respect on our board.......as we all try to treat our fellow shipmates with respect while ON our Seabourn Yachts.:p

Only a very few times have I seen any "disguntled or discontented" guests aboard.:(

 

Martita B.

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On the Legend crossing this past March, I only saw one incident of discontented passengers. It was in the dining room when suddenly a group of men abruptly got up very upset about something and left in the middle of dinner, leaving the table empty. I'm not sure what happened, but there were a few heads turning and the wait staff looked rather discombobulated.

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If Seaborn did ever ban anyone from the line I am sure they did it with their usual aplomb. What a shame that you had to suffer such feloow passengers on your recent Seadream cruise. Hope it did not ruin it for you.

 

Martitia will confirm that there was a passenger on our recent Caribbean cruise who should have been left behind because she seemed to think she was exempt from the boat drill. Rather than go with the flow this woman "mouthed' off at the female officer who three times had to ask this woman to put"ON" her life jacket and that just holding it in her arms was not sufficient and that until she complied with the regualtions everyone else was going to have to wait and continue to muster on the deck. The very patient officer had to listen to ridiculous excuses (ie. it would mess up her hair, she was in the owners suite) and take a ration of verbal abuse and threats ( my husband will call the President of the cruise line). I noticed that even when she finally put on the life vest she moved to the very back of the group and ducked down and removed it until the drill was over. Now she wold have been my candidtate for removal. Throughout the remainder of her cruise she acted as if she owned the ship and was rude to every crew memmber.

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Howdy Friend, Chairsin....YES, indeed that happened! But, (you know me)

I did do my 'lit investigating and found out ALL about her.......they were not regular Seabourn guests. And did you notice that "she and her sister/

cousin/aunt" stayed by themselves the rest of our voyage?

Thank goodness this type of passenger is far and few between!

 

Hugs sent to Arizona! Can you say, "Yee-Haw," Madam Chairsin?

Miss Martita

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If Seaborn did ever ban anyone from the line I am sure they did it with their usual aplomb. What a shame that you had to suffer such feloow passengers on your recent Seadream cruise. Hope it did not ruin it for you.

 

Thanks for the concern - no, this person did not ruin the trip for me or any other passenger, as far as I am aware. The two passengers just thought the rules didn't apply to them and they were entitled to special treatment. It was much more difficult on the crew than the passengers. At least we could turn on our heels and walk away. Unfortunately, the crew had to suffer the incursions and rudeness with a smile and never failing politeness.

 

I was just hoping that as these passengers claimed to have sailed on Seabourn a great deal and were rumored to have been banned I could find out what constituted "bannable" behavior and see if we could be so lucky on SeaDream (else someone -myself, another passenger, or a crew member is going to throw the passenger overboard at a future date).

 

Thanks

FT

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  • 2 weeks later...

I saw passengers removed from the Pride in the past. The only ones I can really think of off the top of my head were the couple caught doing drugs in their cabin who were offloaded at the next port.

 

I saw one on P&O that was hilarious. Really obnoxious guy from Zimbabwe, got into loads of trouble causing fights in the bar and stuff, eventually he went too far by trying to grab some of the dancers during a show. He was a very big guy and all the security on this ship are little Gurkhas. It was quite fun to see this very large guy being physically offloaded from the ship having thought these little Indian guys would be no problem for him. The gurkhas are lovely guys, quiet, don't smile much but you very much want them on your side in a fight.It was sad to see the 3 kids this idiot had with him crying as they left the ship but they only had their father to blame.

 

We also had one drunken idiot on my last ship break into the theatre on the last night, get up on the stage (only accessible from behind), open the curtains and start playing the drums with screwdrivers, putting holes in all the heads. He was caught by the night staff but, despite 4 people having seen him up on the drums, he was allowed to get away with it because he said he didn't do it and they had no video evidence. Hundreds of pounds worth of damage to the drums and he must have been laughing all the way home.

 

The vast majority of passengers I've encountered have been lovely people, especially on Seabourn. Sadly though there will always be idiots.

 

Phil

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Unfortunately, the crew had to suffer the incursions and rudeness with a smile and never failing politeness.

 

Don't you believe it. On any cruise ship, hotel, restaurant etc there are lots of ways of dealing with the really difficult and obnoxious passengers. Trust me, you don't want to know most of them. Just to give you an idea - was it the toilet brush used to scrub the bowl or maybe your toothbrush? Be nice to your stewardess.

 

Phil

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Hi Phil.......Happy to see you posting with us!

Several years ago in the Caribbean on the Pride, we had a family...father, mother and two older children (around 20 'ish) that would NOT abide by the dress codes. He (the father) had won the sailing......(I do not know how) They all walked around the ship in just terrible clothing......one evening the Captain came to me in the Club and ask, "is there anyway that you can approach this family and perhaps, some way, some how, in the appropiate manner, suggest our dress code on board?" I, of course, told him I would try to think of a pleasant, mannerly way"........he said, "if they do not start dressing for dinner, I shall need to ask them to disembark!" Wellll, I couldn't sleep that night for worrying as to how I would "visit" with them.........'Lo and behold, the next afternoon, I saw the Captain and he said, "Our problems have been solved!!!" Sure enough, that night, in they all walked into the dining room, looking well groomed and well dressed!!! I never could or did ask the Captain what happened! Or how he solved their "looking so nice!" But, they did!!

 

Happy Sailing,

MB

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frequent traveler,

No the rude "lady' did not ruin my Seabourn cruise -- it would take alot to ruin such a wonderful trip -- but I did feel sorry for the crew who had to put up with her behavior -- you have to admire how they maintain their smiles and never lose their cool -- makes me wonder if they go back to their quarters and stick pins in voodoo doll facsimilies of difficult passengers. Actually, Martha and I almost made a game out of trading tales of what we saw the woman do while on board -- mostly we just tried to steer clear of them and join the fun crowd in enjoying ourselves.

 

Phil,

Not nice -- eventhough I think I am always a paradign of good behavior I am going to start hiding my toothbrush when I leave my suite -- YUK!!!

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I've been reading these posts and a thought occurred to me; very much as some people say horrid things online that they might not say to another in person...do you think some people, when vacationing, and especially, on a seagoing vessel, would behave a way they never would at home? I'm just wondering what it is being away from home (far away in most Seabourn cases!), or being on a "faceless" thing such as the internet...can bring out in some people?

 

Jane :confused:

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Jane.....my opinion is the "unhappy, rude guests" are the same at home! Those that are happy, friendly and well-mannered are the same at home!

I've noticed that there are a few Sailor's that come aboard, and it seems that nothing the sweet attentive crew do for them is right or enough.

My opinion, "it's all in the attitude"......whether at sea or on land!

I've not seen too many unhappy Sailor's however, on Seabourn.

Martita

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Jane, I have to agree with Martha. If you're well mannered and good-natured at home, it's unlikely you will behave differently onboard ship. Have you ever witnessed the behavior of an angry drunk? I suspect an angry drunk is also an angry sober person.

 

I do think it is the exception to find an unhappy face on Seabourn. :)

 

Denyse

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Jane.....my opinion is the "unhappy, rude guests" are the same at home! Those that are happy, friendly and well-mannered are the same at home!

I've noticed that there are a few Sailor's that come aboard, and it seems that nothing the sweet attentive crew do for them is right or enough.

My opinion, "it's all in the attitude"......whether at sea or on land!

I've not seen too many unhappy Sailor's however, on Seabourn.

Martita

 

Martha and Denyse,

I have to agree with you both. It's just like putting perfume on a goat.

 

mcboo:) :)

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