Je Souhaite Posted November 15, 2016 #1 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just curious. I remember what an eyesore those things were. They were installed after the Triumph and Dream incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 15, 2016 #2 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Recently saw image of Liberty in Galveston, and it looked like the CAT in the Box was still up behind the stack. I don't think she has been to drydock since the Triumph, so no permanent upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittysnme Posted November 15, 2016 #3 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just off the Conquest and she has the same behind the stack. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted November 15, 2016 #4 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yes on Glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted November 15, 2016 #5 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Why do you consider it an eyesore? It's placed in a low volume space, and most cruisers won't even recognize what it's there for. I was actually happy to see it after watching news vids of ships without power. You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't share it with you. Happy cruising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbobswife Posted November 15, 2016 #6 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Why do you consider it an eyesore? It's placed in a low volume space, and most cruisers won't even recognize what it's there for. I was actually happy to see it after watching news vids of ships without power. You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't share it with you. Happy cruising! Agree. Now that they don't have the big "CAT" signs on them (or they are covered up) they don't even elicit a second glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 15, 2016 #7 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just curious. I remember what an eyesore those things were. They were installed after the Triumph and Dream incidents. Still waiting Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maldenmusic Posted November 16, 2016 #8 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Never even noticed them but probably will now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted November 16, 2016 #9 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Are they even actually hooked up, or just there to look comforting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkIVette Posted November 16, 2016 #10 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Are they even actually hooked up, or just there to look comforting? No, they wouldn't hook them up. They just spend thousands of dollars on them to just look pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted November 16, 2016 #11 Share Posted November 16, 2016 No, they wouldn't hook them up. They just spend thousands of dollars on them to just look pretty. So they're not hooked up? Just there as a false comfort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkIVette Posted November 16, 2016 #12 Share Posted November 16, 2016 So they're not hooked up? Just there as a false comfort? Yeah. Actually they are just small shipping containers that look like generators with CAT signs on them.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted November 16, 2016 #13 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Yeah. Actually they are just small shipping containers that look like generators with CAT signs on them.:rolleyes: No CAT signs any longer. Painted a nice shade of green with Carnival sign on it. Use to see big cables running out from them but last two didn't. So I guess they have to connect when needed. I had a friend who use to service them and helped with installing them. It was great duty. I think they do it in house now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted November 16, 2016 #14 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Liberty still has the generator and no, it was not painted to look pretty. It is still in the gray shipping container with the CAT sign on the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missileer Posted November 17, 2016 #15 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Just off the Miracle and she had a generator on deck 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 19, 2016 #16 Share Posted November 19, 2016 No CAT signs any longer. Painted a nice shade of green with Carnival sign on it. Use to see big cables running out from them but last two didn't. So I guess they have to connect when needed. I had a friend who use to service them and helped with installing them. It was great duty. I think they do it in house now. While I am not sure and am sure I will be corrected by my friends here, while on the Splendor a couple of years back we saw them working on the backup generator. They removed those lines and I think "direct connected" it during the week. This was done during our sailing throughout the week. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetMax Posted November 19, 2016 #17 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The one on The Pride was removed last month while we were docked at Port Canaveral. Interesting to watch. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 19, 2016 #18 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The one on The Pride was removed last month while we were docked at Port Canaveral. Interesting to watch. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk They actually lifted the box off? Sent from my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 19, 2016 #19 Share Posted November 19, 2016 They actually lifted the box off? Sent from my iPhone The plan was that these were always going to be temporary. This kind of installation cannot be considered a permanent solution. Carnival's original statement was that they were either going to have a permanent additional generator, or were going to reconfigure the power distribution so that there would be less likelihood of total hotel power failure. Given the mandated loads on the existing emergency generator, and the limitations on what can and cannot be connected to the emergency generator, I don't see that this was an option. I also doubted that they would find space for another designated standby generator the size of the emergency. I believe they feel they have met their proposal by the rerouting of the main generator cables from the forward engine room to outside the engine rooms, rather than through the aft engine room, which is what caused the problem on both the Splendor and Triumph. This more genuinely segregates the two engine rooms, so that a fire in one will not take out the other, so total loss of power is less likely. This is more in line with what other lines have in their older ships that do not meet the Safe Return to Port requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 19, 2016 #20 Share Posted November 19, 2016 The plan was that these were always going to be temporary. This kind of installation cannot be considered a permanent solution. Carnival's original statement was that they were either going to have a permanent additional generator, or were going to reconfigure the power distribution so that there would be less likelihood of total hotel power failure. Given the mandated loads on the existing emergency generator, and the limitations on what can and cannot be connected to the emergency generator, I don't see that this was an option. I also doubted that they would find space for another designated standby generator the size of the emergency. I believe they feel they have met their proposal by the rerouting of the main generator cables from the forward engine room to outside the engine rooms, rather than through the aft engine room, which is what caused the problem on both the Splendor and Triumph. This more genuinely segregates the two engine rooms, so that a fire in one will not take out the other, so total loss of power is less likely. This is more in line with what other lines have in their older ships that do not meet the Safe Return to Port requirements. Thanks......as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggielover68 Posted November 19, 2016 #21 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Why do you consider it an eyesore? It's placed in a low volume space, and most cruisers won't even recognize what it's there for. I was actually happy to see it after watching news vids of ships without power. You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't share it with you. Happy cruising! Life jackets are ugly. They should get rid of those too :-p Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ700 Posted November 20, 2016 #22 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just curious. I remember what an eyesore those things were. They were installed after the Triumph and Dream incidents. What does it matter? Will you choose not to cruise a ship if it's there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted November 20, 2016 #23 Share Posted November 20, 2016 What does it matter? Will you choose not to cruise a ship if it's there? No. It's just that 3 years later, you'd think that they would have a permanent solution in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 20, 2016 #24 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) No. It's just that 3 years later, you'd think that they would have a permanent solution in place. The permanent solution requires a drydocking, so as those ships become due for drydocking, the work is done. Edit; I'm getting too CC, using "drydock" too freely. It doesn't require a drydocking, but it does require a couple of weeks out of service, so it is scheduled for the statutory drydock. Edited November 20, 2016 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted November 20, 2016 #25 Share Posted November 20, 2016 The permanent solution requires a drydocking, so as those ships become due for drydocking, the work is done. Edit; I'm getting too CC, using "drydock" too freely. It doesn't require a drydocking, but it does require a couple of weeks out of service, so it is scheduled for the statutory drydock. Most of these ships are old enough that they should have cycled through their scheduled maintenance period by now, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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