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Am I the only person who has no interest in the Freedon of the Seas? I haven't sailed Voyager calss and have no desire to. I love the feel of the smaller ships i.e. Nordic Prince. I know a lot of folks are really into the bigger the better and for them that is great. I wish the cruise lines would build some smaller ships. As the ships got bigger I noticed a lot of differences in the food presentation, quality and service and also in the activities and giveaways. They used to be more and of a better quality.

 

 

 

So, is it just me or are there others out there who want to stay with the smaller ships?

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I have sailed Voyager class and disliked it. I briefly considered FOS as there was a C&A sailing advertised but then realized how totally foolish that would be.

 

Voyager class is overrun with kids and I expect FOS will be even worse. ANd the sheer size is enough to send me running in the opposite direction.

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Give me the Vision class any day. The worst cruise we have ever had on RCCL was on the Voyager.:) One good thing about the Freedom is it will take a lot of people away from my smaller ships.:D

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Gasp! Is talk like that even permitted here? ;)

 

And I agree! But if someone offers me a free cruise on FOS I'm willing to give it a try!!

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I have no interest in the FOS. Voyager is big enough for me. Also, I think the FOS will be a kid magnet, so I have no interest in cruising with tons of kids. Some are fine, but something tells me that this ship will be LOADED with kids. Another thing I don't like about the FOS is that at this point, it only doing Western Caribbean, which I have no interest in either.

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If I got a once in a lifetime deal or a freebie, I would be willing to give the Freedom a try, but after just coming off the Voyager I can honestly say that I prefer the smaller more intimate ships.

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I think I'd like to tour it but I don't know if I'd like to sail it :o I can see the appeal just in the shear size of the thing but I have to admit that I like the smaller ships, if you consider a ship that carries 2000 people small:D

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Am I the only person who has no interest in the Freedon of the Seas? I haven't sailed Voyager calss and have no desire to. I love the feel of the smaller ships i.e. Nordic Prince. I know a lot of folks are really into the bigger the better and for them that is great. I wish the cruise lines would build some smaller ships. As the ships got bigger I noticed a lot of differences in the food presentation, quality and service and also in the activities and giveaways. They used to be more and of a better quality.

 

 

 

So, is it just me or are there others out there who want to stay with the smaller ships?

I've sailed Voyager class four times, and we are booked on FOS (a family of five). We most recently sailed on Adventure OS as just a couple.

For families, the Voyager class wins hands down, I have a feeling Freedom will just raise that bar more.

For just a couples experience, I can't say as I'm totally sold on Voyager class. Still love the Royal Promenade inside, beautiful walks around a large promenade deck outside, and the many features offered. With the larger size, the trade off comes in diminished service. Not bad, but diminished.

Our next sailing as couple will be on a smaller ship offering more amenities.

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Am I the only person who has no interest in the Freedon of the Seas? I haven't sailed Voyager calss and have no desire to. I love the feel of the smaller ships i.e. Nordic Prince. I know a lot of folks are really into the bigger the better and for them that is great. I wish the cruise lines would build some smaller ships. As the ships got bigger I noticed a lot of differences in the food presentation, quality and service and also in the activities and giveaways. They used to be more and of a better quality.

 

 

 

So, is it just me or are there others out there who want to stay with the smaller ships?

 

I AGREE 100%!!!!!!!!! I loved the Nordic Prince and Song of America/Norway. The biggest current ship I care to be on is Brilliance of the Seas.............I am not planning on the Voyager Class and certainly not anything bigger!!!!!!! :eek:

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I just like going on the new fresh ships. I went on Mariner when it was new and am going on the Freedom on its third week. Also if you haven't tried the big ships how can you make a comment?

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Well, our small family of three (myself, DH and 7-yr. old son) will be getting aboard the Legend tomorrow, and for us, this will be fantastic. I just don't know if all the extras are worth it for us. To each their own, though.

 

I've been on the larger ships, and while they have a few more activities, there really isn't that big a difference to justify some of the higher prices, IMHO.

 

Now, if I was offered a free cruise aboard the FOS, then who am I to turn it down? If not, I'll wait until the hoopla dies down and then perhaps cruise her.

 

Lisa

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Also if you haven't tried the big ships how can you make a comment?

 

I don't want to try to huge mega-ships, because there are too many passengers!!! Way too many people in a confined area. The ships are too big for my taste and too impersonal. I like the smaller-mid size ships.

Just a personal preference. ;)

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My husband and I do like the Voyager size ships but the FOS is not going to ports we care for and right now the prices are too high. After the newness wears off we might consider it.

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Actually, your post title is an unfortunate American colloquialism. If indeed you could care less than you currently do then you actually care about Freedom of the Seas.

 

To express the disdain that you are trying to express your title should be "Freedom.....Couldn't Care Less".

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Actually, your post title is an unfortunate American colloquialism. If indeed you could care less than you currently do then you actually care about Freedom of the Seas.

 

To express the disdain that you are trying to express your title should be "Freedom.....Couldn't Care Less".

 

That's right! I care so little that I couldn't care less.

 

People get that one wrong all the time.

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I haven't jumped on the booking bandwagon for the Freedom of the Seas and I likely won't either.

Western Caribbean isn't my thing - I prefer Eastern or Southern so that is the main reason I won't consider the Freedom. Maybe if they change the itinerary at some point I may reconsider.....

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I personally like the big ships. I also like the smaller ones too! I've never felt any more crowded on teh Voyager ships than the smaller ones either. And the increase amount of amenities are great!

 

I would not book Freedom now, at least not until the itenerary changes. I have no interest in doing a western route again for quite some time.

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I am one of the many Texans who love the Rhapsody, so I confess that my judgement is clouded. I am older and I love the way that I am treated on her. I don't need the extras (ice skating rinks, miniature golf) to make my cruise enjoyable. I love the peace and quiet of looking out at the ocean.

 

Therefore, to me, why would I pay the airfare to travel to Miami to sail a huge ship that goes to the same itinerary as the Rhapsody? I know myself and I wouldn't.

 

It's been said many times that one of the worst things is "contempt prior to investigation". Maybe when the day comes and we are traveling with grandchildern, I will rethink this and go with the kid friendly ship loaded with activities.

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Vision Class only for us. I wouldn't be caught dead, you couldn't pay me, a team of wild horses couldn't drag me on, hell will freeze over, before I'm on that big butt ugly monster.

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by the responses here. I accepted to see flaming of the OP and was pleasantly surprised to see there are others that think as I do.

 

I don't like anything bigger than the Radiance class ships. I have no interest in ice skating (I can do that here without the cost), no interest in rock climbing on a rock climbing wall that, quite frankly, just looks like a big brown paper mache something or other, no interest in a shopping mall, (again I can do that here.)

 

And I agree with the others about about the child magnet. I have no objections to kids, but there is a limit to the number I want to sail with and last but not least, I don't like the itinerary at all.

 

But that's my opinion.

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Vision Class only for us. I wouldn't be caught dead, you couldn't pay me, a team of wild horses couldn't drag me on, hell will freeze over, before I'm on that big butt ugly monster.

 

Thanks for the chuckle ;)

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You're not the only one. I look at price and itinerary first when I book a cruise and Freedom loses on both of those points with me. I have never been on a Voyager class ship, but the things that are so attractive to others don't interest me. Don't wanna shop on the ship, rock-climb, play golf, any of that stuff. I *might* see an ice show, that's about it. I like the smaller ships. I really loved the Zenith, I don't know what it was about that ship but I felt like I was really on a SHIP and not an enormous floating hotel. :) Obviously lots of folks are really into the bigger, newer, most features thing and they will probably have an amazing time. It's not for me though.

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Radiance class is my favorite and largest ship I like to sail on.....the smaller the ship, the less kids there are....don't get me wrong, I like kids (I had 6 of my own!), but now that they're grown up and on their own, I prefer the 'quieter' cruises.....with that being said, we're taking our grandkids on their first cruise in January!

 

Michele

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I'm taking a break from packing for my first cruise on the Glory, which sails tomorrow, so I can't really give an informed opinion. However, I tend to be of the "bigger, better, faster, newer" fan club. I like the idea that the Freedom of the Seas will be "the most digitally-advanced cruise ship at sea." I'm all about the gadgets and gizmos, but not so much about having an ice skating rink or rock climbing wall on board.

 

My opinion is that the bigger staterooms will be nice, and maybe they'll go to the expense of putting the spa showers in all the cabins, so the little kiddies can't even afford to go! It sounds to me, though, as if this is a floating Spring Break gone wild! I suppose only time will tell.

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I'm taking a break from packing for my first cruise on the Glory, which sails tomorrow, so I can't really give an informed opinion.

 

Hey, have a good trip! I'm sure you'll have a BLAST!

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We had to decide between Mariner and Freedom for our next cruise. Mariner won for the following reasons:

 

1. Price. It would have been $400 more for us to sail on Freedom.

2. Activities. All of the 'extras' that we actually do (rollerblading / climbing wall / ice-skating) are already on the Voyager-class ships.

3. Port. Orlando is more convenient for us than Miami.

4. Itinerary. We prefer Ocho Rios as our Jamaican port.

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I'd love to sail the Freedom but not until they change the itinerary, we do not care for Haiti or Jamaica. Did our first mega ship this year and do enjoy the smaller ships but wouldn't count any bigger ships out but have to like the itinerary.

Debbie

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I traveled on a 113,000 GT ship on another line and really hated the fact that there were so many people on board. I will not sail on a Voyager or Freedom class vessel. Call me a snob, but I prefer the feeling of being on a ship, not at a resort. Just reboarding after a day in port with all of those folks on board that beheamouth I sailed on a few years ago was enough to turn me away from wanting to spend my hard earned vacation time on a mega-ship.

 

One thing that seemed completely lost on the mega-ship was the ease of getting to know fellow passengers, which is one of the things I truly LOVE about cruising! It seemed that you'd meet nice people and then never see them again. Blah.

 

Taters

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To become so upset by the enthusiasm being shown by those who plan to sail on Freedom of the Seas, seems like bit of an overreaction. After all no one is being forced to sail on Voyager or Freedom class ships, so the fact that someone is excited about their cruise shouldn't bother others as much as it seems to.

While my wife and I definitely prefer the Radiance class ships, we are looking forward to sailing on the Freedom next October with our kids and grandkids. When Voyager was first announced, I thought, like many on this thread, that it would be too big and too crowded. After sailing on the Explorer and subsequently on Mariner (twice) and Voyager, I revised my opinion. I never felt crowded and the size of the ship didn't bother me, nor did I ever feel overwhelmed by masses of kids onboard (the Adventure Ocean program apparently works pretty well in keeping them occupied and from underfoot). Voyager class ships have some design characteristics that I don't like, ( for example, the sense that they have been designed to draw passengers inside the ship and distract them from the fact that they are at sea and on a ship, not in a land-based mall) but at least I have a solid basis for my opinions. Making a judgement about whether or not you will like something based on pre-conceived perceptions that may or not prove to be correct seems, to me at least, to be a bit foolish.

If Freedom class ships prove to be as unpopular as some seem to think they should be, RCI will undoubtedly shelve their plans for making bigger ships, but if their popularity is confirmed by passenger counts and repeat business, those who want smaller ships are probably going to have to look elsewhere to satisfy their needs.

As far as itineraries are concerned, this is another area where it is impossible to satisfy everyone. When Endeavour and the third Freedom class ships are introduced perhaps their itineraries will be more satisfactory to those who aren't fans of the western Caribbean ports. Until then, our options seem to be to sail Freedom to the Western Caribbean, wait until one of the other ships offers a new itinerary, or sail on a ship that offers an itinerary more to our liking.:)

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Am I the only person who has no interest in the Freedon of the Seas? I haven't sailed Voyager calss and have no desire to. I love the feel of the smaller ships i.e. Nordic Prince. I know a lot of folks are really into the bigger the better and for them that is great. I wish the cruise lines would build some smaller ships. As the ships got bigger I noticed a lot of differences in the food presentation, quality and service and also in the activities and giveaways. They used to be more and of a better quality.

 

 

 

So, is it just me or are there others out there who want to stay with the smaller ships?

 

To answer your question, the cruise lines don't build smaller ships because the demand is for the mega ships. There are still lines out there that have the smaller ships and only those, but they tend to be a lot more expensive. If the demand were not there for the mega ships, they would not build them, and if there were more of a demand for the smaller more intimate ships, they would build those. I am sailing on Freedom next October as well, and without children. For me, it is the ship that makes my cruising decision, not the ports. I take land vacations to places that I like to visit once a year and spend a week or 2 there, and when it comes to cruising, I just like being at sea. Don't really care where the ship goes, as long as I am on it.

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To answer your question, the cruise lines don't build smaller ships because the demand is for the mega ships. There are still lines out there that have the smaller ships and only those, but they tend to be a lot more expensive. If the demand were not there for the mega ships, they would not build them, and if there were more of a demand for the smaller more intimate ships, they would build those. I am sailing on Freedom next October as well, and without children. For me, it is the ship that makes my cruising decision, not the ports. I take land vacations to places that I like to visit once a year and spend a week or 2 there, and when it comes to cruising, I just like being at sea. Don't really care where the ship goes, as long as I am on it.

 

See, I'm exactly opposite. I decide where I want to visit then find the cruise that gets me there for the right price. I don't like sea days and try to book itineraries with as few as possible.

 

I am not sure that demand is the only driving factor behind the big-ship trend. I don't think Joe or Jane reading the Sunday travel section looking at cruises knows the difference. In fact, when I was showing pics of my cruise to a guy at work he said, "Wow, what were there, 1000 people on that ship?" He was astounded when I told him there was probably 2500. The operating costs of a ship that carries 3600 people are not twice as high as a ship that carries 1800 so the more people the line can get on the ship the more profitable it is. Especially when you promote "Ship as Destination", the more time the lines get people to stay aboard the more profits they reap on drinks, casino, shopping, etc. It's just like all the gas station/mini-marts. They sell gas, and you'd think that's their main business, but they actually make their real money on the chips and coffee. It's the same w/ the cruiselines.

 

Once again, it's all in priorities. The bigger the ship, the more limited the ports it can visit. I like visiting lots of various places on a cruise.....places like Dominica and St. Lucia, where I would probably not want to spend a week. I have visited places on cruises and gone back for a land vacation when I enjoyed them so much I knew I wanted more. Thankfully, until someone widens the Panama Canal, there will still be ships for us non-mega cruisers.

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I would still consider the Radiance Class a mega ship. It is still a very large ship, and a beautiful one at that. You are right, they do want as many people as they can on their ships for pure profits. But, if people are sailing them, they will still build them bigger and bigger. I am sure that everyone who has booked freedom knows that it is HUGE, and it is still almost completely sold out for a year. That tells me that there is a demand for the biggest ships out there.

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I plan on trying the Freedom, but I prefer the Vision and Radiance class ships as well. I like the activites that a Voyager class ship has, but you just don't get the feeling you are at sea as much as on the smaller (which are still big) ships.

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I would still consider the Radiance Class a mega ship. It is still a very large ship, and a beautiful one at that. You are right, they do want as many people as they can on their ships for pure profits. But, if people are sailing them, they will still build them bigger and bigger. I am sure that everyone who has booked freedom knows that it is HUGE, and it is still almost completely sold out for a year. That tells me that there is a demand for the biggest ships out there.

 

True. I would actually like to cruise on a Radiance ship as they do sound beautiful. And Mom's hubby would spend the entire cruise at the pool table. :) :confused: But to each their own.

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I'm all about the pool tables too. At that point, I don't even care how I am playing. I am usually half in the bag by then.

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Am I the only person who has no interest in the Freedon of the Seas? I haven't sailed Voyager calss and have no desire to. I love the feel of the smaller ships i.e. Nordic Prince. I know a lot of folks are really into the bigger the better and for them that is great. I wish the cruise lines would build some smaller ships. As the ships got bigger I noticed a lot of differences in the food presentation, quality and service and also in the activities and giveaways. They used to be more and of a better quality.

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I don't think the decline in service, quality, food, etc. has anything to do with the size of the ship. Ten years ago food, service, etc. were all better, but cruises cost a lot more than they do now. You can't expect to pay less and get the same product.

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To become so upset by the enthusiasm being shown by those who plan to sail on Freedom of the Seas, seems like bit of an overreaction. After all no one is being forced to sail on Voyager or Freedom class ships, so the fact that someone is excited about their cruise shouldn't bother others as much as it seems to.

 

What makes you think anyone here is upset? All we are all doing is passing our opinion, just as you are. I don't see any upset posters.

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I love the stuff that the freedom has but we have sialed that It a lot and would like to do something different like Eastern or Southern. I have sailed every class. My first cruise was on the Song of Norway when you had to climb stairs outside to get to the Viking crown lounge. I then sailed about 10 year later on the Majesty and loved her and my waiter. I did marry him too. So I have sialed the Majesty more times than I can count. I have also sailed the Sov, Vision, Explorer and Navigator. When I sailed the Majesty I thought who would want all that big of a ship but now that I have sialed I really do like it. We like the mini golf and ice skating rink and the promenande but who is say I would not like the Freedom? But I think for now we may do either a Eastern or Southern on Jewel or Navigator, or Adventure or Serenade. I really like the Mariner but if is just had San Juan we would go!

Lexi

 

 

Vision of the Seas my 20th Cruise Alaska 06

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