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2PM Update

 

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Hurricane Irma Intermediate Advisory Number 46A

NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL

200 PM EDT Sun Sep 10 2017

 

...IRMA CONTINUES TO BATTER SOUTH FLORIDA...

...STRONGEST WINDS EXPECTED IN MARCO ISLAND/NAPLES AREA WITHIN THE

NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS...

 

SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION

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LOCATION...25.6N 81.8W

ABOUT 35 MI...55 KM S OF NAPLES FLORIDA

ABOUT 70 MI...115 KM S OF FT. MYERS FLORIDA

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...120 MPH...195 KM/H

PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 350 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...936 MB...27.64 INCHES

 

At 200 PM EDT (1800 UTC), the center of Hurricane Irma was located near latitude 25.6 North, longitude 81.8 West. Irma is moving toward the north near 12 mph (19 km/h), and a north-northwestward motion with a further increase in forward speed is expected later today, with that motion continuing through Monday. On the forecast track, the center of Irma should move near or over the southwest and west coast of the Florida Peninsula later today through tonight. Irma should then move inland over northern Florida and southwestern Georgia Monday afternoon.

 

Maximum sustained winds are near 120 mph (195 km/h) with higher gusts. Irma is a category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. While weakening is forecast, Irma is expected to remain a powerful hurricane while it moves near or along the west coast of Florida.

 

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 80 miles (130 km) from the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 220 miles (350 km). A 62 mph (100 km/h) sustained wind and 99 mph (158 km/h) gust was recently reported at the Federal Aviation Administration station at Miami International Airport. An 81 mph (130 km/h) wind gust was recently reported at the Miami Weather Forecast Office/National Hurricane Center.

 

The minimum central pressure reported by an Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft is 936 mb (27.64 inches).

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PelicanBill why don't you glance at the Carnival board and read from John Hearld what Carnival is doing to help out. No need to be snide or nasty about what Carnival is or is not doing in this situation. We should all be sticking together right now.

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... No need to be snide or nasty...

 

Well. I went back to read what I wrote in case I was somehow not myself, as I am always very kind and level and careful not to judge. I wrote "(looking at you, Carnival...)"

 

 

Which was meant to imply I'd like to know what Carnival will be doing, as in "your move, Carnival." fully expecting they will. I am monitoring and interpreting 50 sources of information and don't have time to follow every lead and had looked at the weather notice for all 3 big cruise lines but did not see anything. I don't read all the cruise line boards often, so I am sorry if I missed something that was known at that time.

 

 

I do not think the tone of my comment was snide or nasty and I am sorry if it came across to you or anyone else. I don't, however, stick together and act all happy when I believe there is not enough being done to save lives.

 

 

What I also don't do is post notes telling other people they screwed up. I would rather post new information or correct information and would have appreciated someone telling us what Carnival IS doing.

 

 

I have since learned Carnival is dropping off supplies to St. Kitts but has not committed any evacuation resources. They have written letters to the leaders of the islands asking what they can do to help. My opinion is that for all the cruise lines this is a start, but I hope to see more, and help for the residents not just evacuation of visitors. Too many people on these islands need medical help, and have no housing, food, or water.

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Amazing. It sure looks like Irma is defying the forecast and heading due north toward Orlando from Fort Myers! That is instead of going NNW along the coast. Watch for the 11pm NHC update. I read that CNN reported this to be happening also.

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We are in Orlando, and we lost cable/internet early, power flickered off.

 

This morning, we went out to see three fence panels down as well as a few tree limbs.

 

Be safe, everyone.

 

 

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I hope all of you in Florida are safe and did not suffer serious damage last night.

 

Now we watch the tropical storm and depression effects through Georgia, the Tennessee Valley, and here in Western New York we may even see the remnants next weekend.

 

I am quite happy with the status and communications options coming from Carnival and RCL today. Would like to see NCL step it up. Status, itinerary expectations, ship by ship please. Humanitarian missions. Love the shop by ship text message options that Carnival started. And love the donation button front and center on RCL's page.

 

If you are looking for the best charities, use Charity Navigator to see who has the best ratings as a charity. They have specific pages for charities focused on Hurricanes Harvey and Irma. Here is the Irma page:

 

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=5243&from=homepage

 

I am heartbroken at the first person reports coming from St. John and Tortola right now. They need military help to stop crime, and immediate water, food, and shelter assistance. Tortola appears to be supported mainly by independent efforts right now. St. Maarten and St. Thomas are seeing humanitarian and logistics aid from CDEMA, FEMA and the US Military..

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FYI, - From Port Canaveral's facebook page.

 

Hurricane Irma Port Canaveral Update:

BCSO, Canaveral Fire Rescue has been on scene at Port making preliminary assessments; no major damage noted at this point. All vessels that remained in port are secure. We will begin assessing general harbor conditions soon to facilitate return to normal operations as soon as possible. Port remains closed until further notice.

www.portcanaveral.com/FYI

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The far leading edges are reaching the Carolinas already. Wind and decent rain here in Charlotte. But I turned on one of the local channels showing a news Conference of SC officials discussing conditions mainly around Charleston.

 

In the background they were running video of what I took to be a section of the battery. The surf was really rough with waves crashing over the seawall. The they showed boats washed up on the roads and trees & power lines down. At that point I realized there was nothing in the video showing a location. A few seconds later I saw a sign for Bahia Honda State Park - in the Keys!

 

Come on, people. You're scaring the crap out of folks with friends and relatives in that part of SC by showing a full fledged hurricane.

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On this 16th sad anniversary of 9/11 - it seemed that loss of lives on the U.S. mainland from Irma has been kept low to a minimum, those ignoring the mandatory & voluntary evacuation orders aside as they assumed the risks & are personally responsible - but ... a little troubled that the announced rapid response in deploying military assets to the Florida Keys are faster (in perception, at least ... from news reporting) than getting urgent aid to the USVI and PR, both part of our U.S.A.

 

I wanted to believed it has little to do with those deluxe million dollar houses & homes ... while the Cajun "Navy" had to launch thousands of SAR before the flotilla took over in east Texas 2 weeks ago. Am I seeing this with my distorted bio-focal sunglasses ?

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On this 16th sad anniversary of 9/11 - it seemed that loss of lives on the U.S. mainland from Irma has been kept low to a minimum, those ignoring the mandatory & voluntary evacuation orders aside as they assumed the risks & are personally responsible - but ... a little troubled that the announced rapid response in deploying military assets to the Florida Keys are faster (in perception, at least ... from news reporting) than getting urgent aid to the USVI and PR, both part of our U.S.A.

 

I wanted to believed it has little to do with those deluxe million dollar houses & homes ... while the Cajun "Navy" had to launch thousands of SAR before the flotilla took over in east Texas 2 weeks ago. Am I seeing this with my distorted bio-focal sunglasses ?

 

Plenty of million dollar homes in St Thomas and Puerto Rico. It has almost exclusively to do with the fact that the Keys are much easier to allocate resources to. Getting aid to the islands requires ships, manpower, and time to get there; they can drive to the Keys.

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I am also worried about the prioritization of resources and emergency supplies. The islands are in desperate need of water, food, medical help and safety from armed robberies.

 

I have seen that resources are in motion now. Military, National Guard, NYPD, and may with special ops teams are sending units to help with all kinds of specialists. Many need a lift on military craft.

 

I have also seen independent people arranging relief supplies on private ships, as they ask what is needed and how to get clearance to arrive. It is not clear who is in control of arrivals at each island yet.

 

It is extra difficult as the US is often in the forefront of relief in the Caribbean, but cannot be with mainland, Puerto Rico and USVI taking up most resources. England was slow at first but has committed resources. France and Netherlands were there first, good for them, with more on the way. Netherlands is a leader in CDEMA, with significant resources and supplies staged in the islands and using the full resources of its other islands, especially Curacao, to get initial help.

 

The pictures and video from Barbuda, St. Maarten/St. Martin, the BVI and the USVI are heartbreaking. And on the resources I am following there are many people who have not been found or checked in yet. After 5 days it starts to get critical. Nobody can prepare ahead with enough food and water beyond that, so I hope the supplies are really flowing in now... and getting to all the people.

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On the cruising front, 5 ships stacked up waiting to get in to Miami! Hope they can open today. There are sunken sailboats in the channel! I have friends on one of them. They said Carnival took excellent care of them for their extra days of "vacation." More changes to itineraries for this week and I wonder if people will be able to get their flights in to leave on cruises this week and weekend. Hope so. NCL announced all eastern caribbean cruises for the next 2 months will change to western. My own Dec. 3 cruise had 6 ports, all affected to some degree. I wonder where we will be going now!

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On the cruising front, 5 ships stacked up waiting to get in to Miami! Hope they can open today. There are sunken sailboats in the channel! I have friends on one of them. They said Carnival took excellent care of them for their extra days of "vacation." More changes to itineraries for this week and I wonder if people will be able to get their flights in to leave on cruises this week and weekend. Hope so. NCL announced all eastern caribbean cruises for the next 2 months will change to western. My own Dec. 3 cruise had 6 ports, all affected to some degree. I wonder where we will be going now!

 

Your updates during Irma have been invaluable, Bill. I'm sure all who've read them will join in a big THANK YOU! :)

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Your updates during Irma have been invaluable, Bill. I'm sure all who've read them will join in a big THANK YOU! :)

 

Thanks for your kind words!

 

Watch the ships come home. The port of Miami webcam is working! (And pretty sure that as this moment, 11:22 EDT, you can see the outline of a ship on the horizon). The port's arrivals calendar estimates returns to occur 1-2pm. So I am guessing they are expecting to re-open shortly.

 

http://www.portmiamiwebcam.com/

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PelicanBill, what ship are you sailing on Dec 3rd? Me and my sister are flying to San Juan sailing on the Fascination.

 

 

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PelicanBill---you have done a great job keeping all of us informed during these tough times. I didn't mean to offend you the other day-just didn't want the thread to turn into a bunch of negative posts. Your info has been valuable and timely and much appreciated!

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An obvious comment.... The scope of the total damage done by Irma is breath taking. Essentially the whole Leeward Island chain has be devastated. Beside the human suffering, it is inconceivable how one storm could affect the cruise industry to this extent.

 

Jose was nearly as strong as Irma and just missed these same Islands. You have to wonder if this is the end or if there is more to come this year.

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Your updates during Irma have been invaluable, Bill. I'm sure all who've read them will join in a big THANK YOU! :)

 

My gratitude as well as we have loads of family members that were in the direct path of Irma....are booked on two cruises within the next 4 weeks to the Caribbean....and just were SO grateful to get your expertise along the "path" of this historic storm. Thanks for all of the great info....now on to continuing to check on OUR loved ones and wonder what to do about our upcoming trips....

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How are your family members? Wondering how the islands truly are doing after the hurricanes. I felt so bad for them.

 

 

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