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We were sitting with a couple on one of our cruises that were told when they ordered a drink that they were over their 15 and would be charged regular price for the next one. So they weren't cut off after 15. Of course, that could vary be ship and cruise.

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I knew a friend who got 2 specialty coffees in the morning, a bottle of water, and then proceeded to drink 6 double Tequilas throughout the day. (it was a sea day). The Tequila doubles counted as 2 drinks, so he hit 15. He had no problem ordering another alcoholic drink later in the evening, on the same day. It appears the computer terminals that the bartenders use do flag the count of your beverage consumption. Only when the individual transactions hit the accounting office, does the beverage count kick in. And if you are over your 15, they simply charge #16 and up to your onboard account. I would think that if you were obviously blotto-drunk, they cut you off. If you appear relatively sober and upright, they will continue pouring and let the accounting office worry about your totals.

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Assuming we sleep 8 hours, that leaves 16 hours to drink. That means one coffee/cocktail/bottled water an hour all day every day. That just seems super reasonable to me.

That being said, I don't know if they would sell you more. I do know that it would be unwise of them to do so. Over serving is criminal in the US. They can be charged with "negligent disregard for human life" even if nothing comes of it and up to negligent homicide, carrying a mandatory life sentence, if someone dies because the person is inebriated. We are trained that the average person can process about one drink an hour, so serving over 16 alcoholic drinks in a 24 hour period might be criminal.

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Assuming we sleep 8 hours, that leaves 16 hours to drink. That means one coffee/cocktail/bottled water an hour all day every day. That just seems super reasonable to me.

That being said, I don't know if they would sell you more. I do know that it would be unwise of them to do so. Over serving is criminal in the US. They can be charged with "negligent disregard for human life" even if nothing comes of it and up to negligent homicide, carrying a mandatory life sentence, if someone dies because the person is inebriated. We are trained that the average person can process about one drink an hour, so serving over 16 alcoholic drinks in a 24 hour period might be criminal.

 

Then, based on your standards, just about every bar and restaurant in the US is committing a felony. Generally, if you can reach the bar, and appear sober enough to order a drink, you will be served. They might grab your car keys and call you a taxi, but they will keep serving you until you appear inebriated. The cruise lines feel that no one is driving home, (that's the captain's job) and if you appear sober, they will serve you. They don't care what your beverage count is for the day. Who knows, maybe 3 of your 15 is hot chocolates or coffees, and another 2 is bottles of water. The other 10 were 4 beers during lunch, 2 wines at dinner, and maybe 2 double Baily's in the casino. Every person handles alcohol in different ways. Some have 2 glasses of wine and they are blubbering idiots. Others can drink everyone under the table and still appear sober. You can't apply an arbitrary standard to all people.

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I always buy the drink package. It takes only 5 or 6 alcoholic bar drinks to break even. Near the end of the day I find out what number I am on then obtain enough waters or vitamin waters to get me to 15. I now have some for the cabin and to supplement a day when i might hit 15. Sometimes i may obtain a couple shots of vodka to take back to my cabin. Now I can mix a cocktail in my cabin whenever I choose. Many posters assume you are drinking 15 alcoholic drinks a day. It's nice being able to also choose specialty coffees, bottIed waters, favored waters, and non-alcoholic specialty drinks without cost being a consideration.

 

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I knew a friend who got 2 specialty coffees in the morning, a bottle of water, and then proceeded to drink 6 double Tequilas throughout the day. (it was a sea day). The Tequila doubles counted as 2 drinks, so he hit 15. He had no problem ordering another alcoholic drink later in the evening, on the same day. It appears the computer terminals that the bartenders use do flag the count of your beverage consumption. Only when the individual transactions hit the accounting office, does the beverage count kick in. And if you are over your 15, they simply charge #16 and up to your onboard account. I would think that if you were obviously blotto-drunk, they cut you off. If you appear relatively sober and upright, they will continue pouring and let the accounting office worry about your totals.

 

(Bolding is mine) Interesting thought: the doubles counted as 2 drinks....what is a "single"? 1.5 ounces, 1.0 ounces or 2.0 ounces per drink? (it depends on the type of shot glass used). I think the standard is 1.5 ounce shot but I may be wrong.

So which one does HAL use? If it is the 1.5 ounce shot glass, then a double would = 3.0 ounces. Correct or no?

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(Bolding is mine) Interesting thought: the doubles counted as 2 drinks....what is a "single"? 1.5 ounces, 1.0 ounces or 2.0 ounces per drink? (it depends on the type of shot glass used). I think the standard is 1.5 ounce shot but I may be wrong.

So which one does HAL use? If it is the 1.5 ounce shot glass, then a double would = 3.0 ounces. Correct or no?

 

I believe they are 1 ounce pours. So I think a double would be 2 onces on HAL?

 

POA1 could probably verify that one ;)

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You can only order one drink at a time so some cruise lines don't allow double pours as it counts as two drinks. :whiskey-glass::whiskey-glass: .

Apparently this restriction does not apply to the HAL beverage package.

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You can only order one drink at a time so some cruise lines don't allow double pours as it counts as two drinks. :whiskey-glass::whiskey-glass: .

Apparently this restriction does not apply to the HAL beverage package.

 

I was charged for a double. One shot in two glasses cool 2-1 $$$ over the package plan.

 

One day I went over 15 they just charged for the extra :cocktail:

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I believe they are 1 ounce pours. So I think a double would be 2 onces on HAL?

 

POA1 could probably verify that one ;)

 

Thanks Kazu, but is POA1 out there somewhere? Inquiring minds want to know....1 ounce pour or 1.5 by HAL??

It does make a difference....a 1 ounce pour is kind of weak IMO. A 1.5 is kind of standard and a 2 ounce is very generous!

 

PS If it is a 1 ounce pour, can you get around that by ordering a standard Martini or Manhattan for example? I am referring to whether a Martini or Manhattan is within the limits for the drink package. Thx.

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Thanks Kazu, but is POA1 out there somewhere? Inquiring minds want to know....1 ounce pour or 1.5 by HAL??

It does make a difference....a 1 ounce pour is kind of weak IMO. A 1.5 is kind of standard and a 2 ounce is very generous!

 

PS If it is a 1 ounce pour, can you get around that by ordering a standard Martini or Manhattan for example? I am referring to whether a Martini or Manhattan is within the limits for the drink package. Thx.

 

 

 

The price of the drink determines whether it is covered by the package.

 

 

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I always buy the drink package. It takes only 5 or 6 alcoholic bar drinks to break even. Near the end of the day I find out what number I am on then obtain enough waters or vitamin waters to get me to 15. I now have some for the cabin and to supplement a day when i might hit 15. Sometimes i may obtain a couple shots of vodka to take back to my cabin. Now I can mix a cocktail in my cabin whenever I choose. Many posters assume you are drinking 15 alcoholic drinks a day. It's nice being able to also choose specialty coffees, bottIed waters, favored waters, and non-alcoholic specialty drinks without cost being a consideration.

 

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If it were just for me I would probably do it but the fact that everyone in the cabin has to buy it is a deal killer for us.

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HAL doesn't allow you to order two separate drinks at one time. But you can order doubles anytime. One of the two separate drinks can be easily pushed over to a friend who does not have the beverage package. But a double is more difficult to share unless you bring your own glass and cubes. Plus, trying to pour half of your double into a friend's empty glass would really be obvious. HAL's bartenders and waiters are on the lookout for that. If you are caught sharing, your drink package will be cancelled, and you get nothing back from what you paid for the package. No pro-rating. You pay as you go for the rest of the cruise.

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Hi OP, you are not cut off but charged per drink after 15. Now the problem is try and get a running total by staff and it is very difficult, only the wine stewards in the MDR have that information readily on hand while the front desk have to do a manual count. Even worse is you never know which card they are charging drinks to as sometimes they only use one card rather than each separately so on occasions we had one at 10 and the other at 15.

Recently off the Noordam and several bar tenders told us the limit only applies to alcoholic beverages despite what the policy says and what front desk told us, all of these bar tenders were happy to be quoted by name if we had an issue so we tested it out by having even more San Pellegrino water than usual (this almost makes package worthwhile alone). Sure enough we were charged, I went to front desk and the woman was adamant (not to mention rude and condescending) about it being any beverage. I insisted she contact bar management as I quoted the names as recommended, she came back in a fury and began typing and when I asked the result she simply said “I am processing the refund now” with no apology or any other comment.

I love the SBP on HAL as we are drinkers but more importantly we love the bottled waters, vitamin waters etc that go with it. I appreciate that you can take unopened drinks back to your cabin. It also allows us to try new things however the policy is inconsistent and the fact you potentially have to keep count due to poor systems and inconsistent use of multiple cards takes the shine off it. Not to mention the fact no one on board can tell you what constitutes a “day” some tell you it is midnight, others 6am and others whenever the last bar closes for the day. As another said on Celebrity there is none of this treating you like a child.

 

 

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On our upcoming cruise we both have the package. I like NeonMoons advice to check how close to 15 you are and to then get bottled water etc. How can you check?

Also say I am on 12 and my wife is on 13 how can I ensure that if I get 5 bottles that it is split 2 - 3?

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Why even ask such a hypothetical question.

 

I could never even begin to drink enough to actually make the package a good deal.

Much less 15 alcoholic beverages in one day!

 

Trying to work out what makes a bottle of water alcoholic but struggling, must have had too many San Pellegrinos.....

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