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Appreciate that info! We're about to leave Rudesheim after a fabulous day sailing and wandering - let's see what the next few days bring. As we'll leave the Rhine soon I'll continue to post elsewhere with any updates. Thanks all!

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The Aug 11 Grand European voyage from Amsterdam to Budapest on Viking Bragi has been changed to Viking Skadi since Bragi can't make it to Amsterdam due to the low river level. It may involve ship swapping later on the cruise in River Danube but for now it looks like Skadi for sure unless something comes up the last minute.

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We completed a Rhine River cruise about a week and a half ago (Viking Mani). We were told on board that the ship's draft was five feet (1.53 meters). The gorge is not to be missed!

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A storm is certainly brewing and we experienced the "preliminary rumblings" during the night. Rain and thunderstorms could well come a little earlier than predicted a couple of days ago. There have been localized thunderstorms and the river could well react today and tomorrow. In fact, Maxau is a little higher again at 366cm and predicted to rise a little further. Kaub shows no reaction for the better yet and fell to its lowest this year yet, this morning at 64cm. Koblenz fell to its lowest this year at midnight with 62cm but appears to have reacted to the little rainfall there was with a rise during the morning. Every centimetre counts right now as - to be brutally honest - it is only August and the usual pattern is for low water level more in September running into October or November. By that I mean average lows not these lows. So, it could get worse, I have mentioned the drought in 2003. On 28 September in that year the gauge at Koblenz read 23cm! :eek:

 

But to half fill the glass instead of calling it half empty: we can look forward to lower temperatures and slightly higher levels in the next few days. In our minds, we shall ignore the flip side of the coin of local flooding incidents. Counting the hours till it rains...

 

To follow up on a ship: the Viking Baldur I reported as sailing upstream towards Koblenz. She apparently made it to Mainz yesterday and is now already returning into the gorge or stopping just before in Rüdesheim! (??)

 

 

The drafts of ships, now that is something I will need to come back to in a later post.

 

I have mentioned being able to do the Rhine gorge with your cruise line even though your original ship cannot sail its itinerary. Bussing through the gorge would appear to be the obvious alternative. That is easily done as the road called B9 runs through the Rhine gorge through the villages lining the gorge or leads along the embankment. Of course, you would only see one side of the castle section as the valley is for the most part too narrow to view the castles on your side of the road. Switching embankments is tricky as there are few ferries and no bridges for quite some kilometres. The preferable alternative: another boat. Not every river cruise ship would be able to take advantage of the local excursion boats as they themselves are busy with local tourists but it might be doable for a few and has indeed been done in the past. In 2015 rcaruso reported back that they had done the Rhine gorge on an excursion boat of the company Gilles. That company is conveniently based in Vallendar, just North of Koblenz. Near their base they have a slightly trick part of the river (as it is the side not frequented by the large ships and away from the deeper navigation channel) to negotiate. And here is the junior captain Gilles reporting on turning into the harbour and sailing in low water (in German): https://swrmediathek.de/player.htm?show=a7c77930-9102-11e8-b070-005056a12b4c

 

He says that "sailing in low water is nothing for beginners". The harbour master in Bendorf would like to see some rain, too. And it is said again that swimming in the Rhine in low water stays dangerous, the fast-flowing stream can even pull adults off their feet when wading in the shallow stretches close to the embankment. The television video was filmed on 26 July. Jens Gilles hoped for the levels staying put so that there would not be any problems sailing on the big day in August: Rhine in Flames on the 11th. https://www.rhein-in-flammen.com/home_gb.html As we all know, the level has fallen further since then.

 

The bigger threat to the fireworks display currently is the fire risk and a report has just been published by the event's organizer that the festival will go ahead with adjustments to the sites from where the fireworks are set off to minimize the risk. The ships parade will sail in two rows rather than three due to the low water.

 

Hoping all goes well with that splendid event.

 

By the way, sailing on the Rhine is suspended for all ships that are not part of the parade for the duration of the event (a few hours).

 

notamermaid

 

oops, sorry, a long post.

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You have not mentioned any of the new Crystal ships. I am booked from Basel to Amsterdam leaving Minday 8/13. We were just informed the cruise will now leave from Koblenz. Everyone who was flying into Basel now needs to be rerouted to Frankfurt airport and then transferred to ship. Are we able to take the Rhine to Amsterdam from Koblenz?

 

I am new to this blog. I hope you can provide some information about the Crystal Debussy.

 

Kathy

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Hello Kittykat52,

 

 

welcome to the river cruise boards. If you still have the time and patience I recommend reading some of the pages at the top of the board by our host jazzbeau. They contain a wealth of information. The Crystal Debussy is a 135m ship as well which is unfortunate in these conditions. Crystal provides great live coverage: http://www.crystalcruises.com/river/river-guidebook/our-ships/crystal-debussy/crystal-debussy-live-views I admit I did not recognize the bridge and looked it up: she is in Nijmegen in the Netherlands. I am sorry to hear that you now have to board in Koblenz. Missing out on Strasbourg and the area is certainly a bummer. Travelling by coach from Frankfurt airport to Koblenz is not too bad a drive. Should be about two hours only, depending on traffic and route. Talking of route, I sincerely hope (and am sure they will) that they take you along the Rhine river embankment on the coach so you can see the castles. On the other hand: I wonder if they will try to sail into the Rhine gorge if the water is sufficiently high? We are all hoping for that rain tomorrow and on Friday. Ships are able to sail o.k. from Koblenz downstream and you can follow some on marinetraffic. The river is still deep enough but ships might reduce speed for safety and have problems at landing stages. The Netherlands have had problems with locks, I have not got any details. Koblenz is an interesting town and I hope you can enjoy it despite the itinerary changes.

 

 

I am sure Crystal will take care of you the best they can.

 

 

Safe travels.

 

 

notamermaid

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Dear Notamermaid, I remember the 2015 cruise on Gilles. It was a long 5 hour cruise, plenty of wine, beer and a huge piece of Lemmon cake. They also had to go really slow due to the low level. Now that cruise was in November of 2015, so low water can happen most anytime. This December we do the Seine river with Viking, next November the Douro in Portugal. However we spent a great three weeks in Germany this May for Spargel. All land and stayed two weeks in Karlstadt am Main, beautiful and relaxing. Hope you get rain and us too in Texas.

 

 

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Thank you notamermaid for responding so quickly. We are still looking forward to our trip even though it is missing much of the sightseeing we were looking forward to.

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Just got informed our Crystal Bach river cruise from Mainz down the Rhine has been replaced with a cruise from Koblenz down the Moselle. It's a big disappointment, but understandable with the low river level. What has us concerned is Crystal has not said anything about replacing excursions, and since they don't normally cruise the Moselle they may not be setup for it. It's our first time on Crystal - anyone have experience with them changing routes, and if they will offer new excursions? Communication from Crystal so far has been very limited.

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Johng75370, my husband and i are also taking our first Crystal river cruise leaving home on Sunday morning. Our itinerary has been changed due to river levels as well.

We are currently flying to Basel on Saturday/Sunday where we were to board the Crystal Debussy. 3 days ago we received an email informing us that our itinerary had been changed. Today we finally received our air info from Crystal to fly us from Basel to Frankfurt and then they will bus us to Koblenz and the ship.

 

We have not heard anything about new excursions other than an email saying they were diligently preparing for excursions in the 4 new ports we are now scheduled to visit between Koblenz and Amsterdam. They said we would receive information about our new excursion choices once we were aboard.

 

I have been very upset this week not knowing how we were going to get from Basel to Koblenz, but today we have our transfers. Although it took a few days for them to communicate with us about our upcoming cruise, they seem to be on top of things now.

 

I am sure there are many anxious cruisers waiting for information from cruise lines who are scrambling to provide an enjoyable experience for their clients.

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I am sure there are many anxious cruisers waiting for information from cruise lines who are scrambling to provide an enjoyable experience for their clients.

 

Hi there.anxious cruiser here,.just wondering if Crystal offered you any alternatives to travelling, such as rescheduling ot cancelling with a refund? We are travelling on Viking Rhine river beginning of Sept on our first cruise so not sure what to expect from such a significan change to plan.

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According to an Spiegel online report (German new magazine) the Rhine river is sort of closed to traffic above Mannheim.

 

 

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I could not find the Spiegel report you mention. There has been talk of closure in the sense of "it has never happened before and is unlikely to". In low water it is still always the captain's responsibility. Authorities might contemplate it and could change the rules if they thought that the situation was becoming too dangerous. But, as I have mentioned before, the situation could get worse as regards river levels. There are short closures imminent because of events (see Rhine in Flames) or one near Worms, for example. Rescue operations in the wake of incidents might necessitate a closure. Of minor ones I can easily not be aware of. Sadly, a few people have died swimming in the Rhine this Summer. Yesterday a person was rescued at the Hohenzollern Bridge in Cologne.

 

 

Some smaller docks cannot be reached because the level is just too low closer to the embankments, even for excursion boats.

 

 

About river levels: it is getting interesting. More later.

 

 

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johng75730,

 

 

as you have found a fellow affected river cruiser I leave a longer answer to your worries aside for the time being. Just in short: the situation is of course new to Crystal and IMHO some patience with the company is necessary while they get their heads round organizing it all. I am sure it will work out well in the end.

 

 

To river levels: Things are getting interesting as the river is now reacting sometimes relatively fast with change to the lack of rain or the rain that has come. I mean by that more than the two to three centimetres that is just normal fluctuation throughout the day. Maxau is now at 388cm and above GlW, out of its specific low water zone. Kaub is at 67cm, up from its lowest at 63cm. A further rise looks possible with the rain that is forecast for the evening. Unfortunately that figure is still lower than the GlW. Koblenz dropped to 59cm during the night but rain has made the gauge there rise to currently 71cm. For an explanation of the term GlW see post #127. Warnings are in place for severe weather in the region. I can see the rain coming on the radar image. Thunderstorms are just coming into Germany from Belgium and hitting the Rhine valley North of Düsseldorf. Useless for the Rhine gorge but good for the Netherlands. The Upper and Middle Rhine valley will get rain later in the day and into the evening. There is even a small risk of a tornado in Northwest Germany! O.k., now that sounds a bit like too much weather change happening...

 

 

Apart from all this, fish are now dying in the Rhine upstream from Basel, the water is too hot there for some species of fish. The drought in Europe apparently is so bad that it shows up on satellite images.

 

 

Here is a report in German of which the photo and one sentence are the things that are most important for river cruisers: https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/mainz/Trockenheit-in-Rheinland-Pfalz-Immer-weniger-Wasser-fuer-Schiffe-und-Fische,wasserstand-rhein-temperatur-fische-100.html The spokesperson for the authorities in Bingen says: "Shipping on the Rhine is never suspended ((i.e. he means in low water: my edit)), the companies decide themselves..."

 

 

I am counting the hours till it rains substantially for the first time in - how many weeks?

 

 

Of course, it should only rain at night, or when you are on a coach, or when you are indoors sightseeing. :)

 

notamermaid

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I could not find the Spiegel report you mention.

 

Here you go. I wrote "sort of closed" as the article mentions that many river cruise ships can´t continue.

 

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Aah, that one. Thank you, I had only read the headline before when it showed up in results. To clarify for the cruisers: yes, the river is "sort of closed" for the ships because the low level is not restricted to the Rhine gorge. I have focussed on Kaub and its area as the navigation channel is the shallowest there. However, within the sector that falls under the administration of the water board in Mannheim, where currently a lot of ships reach their limits going upstream, the levels have partly fallen under the respective GlW. When doing the math it works out that the river cruise ships with the deepest draft cannot sail. This applies to the free-flowing section. When looking upstream this means up to the lock at Iffezheim. Basel to Iffezheim is fine which is no help to river cruise ships of course, really.

 

I shall get back to that subject of the navigation channel with a helpful pdf file to visualize it in the next few days.

 

notamermaid

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Johng75370, my husband and i are also taking our first Crystal river cruise leaving home on Sunday morning. Our itinerary has been changed due to river levels as well.

We are currently flying to Basel on Saturday/Sunday where we were to board the Crystal Debussy. 3 days ago we received an email informing us that our itinerary had been changed. Today we finally received our air info from Crystal to fly us from Basel to Frankfurt and then they will bus us to Koblenz and the ship.

 

We have not heard anything about new excursions other than an email saying they were diligently preparing for excursions in the 4 new ports we are now scheduled to visit between Koblenz and Amsterdam. They said we would receive information about our new excursion choices once we were aboard.

 

I have been very upset this week not knowing how we were going to get from Basel to Koblenz, but today we have our transfers. Although it took a few days for them to communicate with us about our upcoming cruise, they seem to be on top of things now.

 

I am sure there are many anxious cruisers waiting for information from cruise lines who are scrambling to provide an enjoyable experience for their clients.

 

Now seeing how many ships have been impacted it's no surprise Crystal is scrambling. I heard from our TA (not Crystal directly) that once onboard there will be new excursions announced.

 

KittyKat - hope you have a great journey, despite the changes!

Notamermaid - thanks for the helpful info and great perspective!

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Enjoy following the updates ad appreciate them. We sail on Avalon Affinity leaving Basel on Aug 19 (to Amsterdam).

 

Will monitor and see how things look next few days. I think Avalon has a good track record due to short draft on boats but obviously all can be affected at some time.

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magbol99,

 

 

Avalon Waterways has both 110m and 135m ships on European rivers. The Avalon Affinity is the smaller size: https://www.avalonwaterways.com/River-Cruise-Ships/

 

 

johng75370,

 

 

happy to help. Regarding your concerns about Crystal having changed the itinerary of your upcoming cruise on the Crystal Bach, here is my more detailed answer. As I have mentioned to Kittykat52 the drive from Frankfurt airport to Koblenz should not be too bad, depending on traffic. Modern coaches - and I am sure Crystal will try to use the best available - are pleasant to sit in. Hopefully they will drive through the valley, not on the motorway. They should do the scenic route! That way you can see some of the castles you will miss on the amended itinerary as you do not sail this stretch of river. Crystal changing the entire trip to a Moselle river cruise is both daring and a great move. Let me explain... Crystal has never sailed the Moselle as you pointed out, but they announced that they will sail the Moselle in the 2019 season on the Crystal Bach. You are actually the chosen ones trying out the company's plans for the Moselle. It might not be brilliant this year, but hey - you can give them lots of feedback and feel really important. ;) Not to worry, they will follow a tried and tested pattern of towns and probably excursions next year, so it is not something outlandish they are testing on you (if that is what they are "intending"). And quite frankly IMHO, downstream from Düsseldorf the Rhine loses some of its appeal, so of the two of you Crystal cruisers, at the moment I would say Kittykat52 has drawn the shorter straw. Apart from the fact that problems with low water cannot arise on the Moselle. Here is the thread on the Moselle - perhaps you still have a few calm moments for reading up on the beautiful river: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2353480

 

Hope this helps to calm your nerves a bit.

 

 

Oh yes, it did rain heavily this afternoon with very strong winds indeed in the Middle Rhine valley.

 

notamermaid

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Hi there.anxious cruiser here,.just wondering if Crystal offered you any alternatives to travelling, such as rescheduling ot cancelling with a refund? We are travelling on Viking Rhine river beginning of Sept on our first cruise so not sure what to expect from such a significan change to plan.

 

Hello eal7, aka "anxious cruiser". Crystal took its time getting back to us after sending an email late Friday night about our cruise being drastically changed, and then we could not get any information until Monday. Yesterday, Wednesday, we were finally informed that we were to travel to our intended departure city, Basel, and Crystal would either pay up to $1,000 per person to make changes on our own or choose to let them make our air from Basel to Frankfurt and then transfer us to the ship at no cost to us. Since we were so close to departure day from South Carolina, we chose the second option and then after waiting a total of 5 days, we finally received our new flight info from Basel back to Feankfurt and our Motorcoach transfer to the Debussy in Koblenz. After reading the comments from notamermaid, I really wish they had rescheduled or diverted us to the Moselle as they have done with the Crystal Bach.

 

I think Crystal is also offering another $800 per couple for compensation for missing the ports from Basel to Koblenz which, in my opinion, is ludicrous since we will be missing the reason we chose the Rhine, the castles.

 

I will post an update next week concerning how Crystal handled the changes and if we receive any other compensations. By the way, It was my intent to book our next cruise while on board this River cruise: the Crystal Serenity from Barcelona to Venice in September 2019. We will see . . .

 

Good luck to all of you sailing next week. The weather is going crazy. We have had record rainfall and heat in South Carolina, and the fires and drought in California are devastating. I also heard on the news last night that fires were burning in various European countries as well. In the big picture, our problems seem petty.

 

Thank you all for this great site and invaluable information. It really helps to know that we are not alone.

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Bon Voyage KittyKat! As we're about to leave No. California with hazy skies everywhere from a nearby fire "the size of Los Angeles" (!!), you're right in keeping the bigger picture in perspective.

 

Like you, I'll try to post what the resolution to all these changes are once we find out on board. I'm very disappointed in how Crystal communicates; they've not offered any "compensation" for the complete change of plans and no fore-knowledge of what we'll be doing next week. It's a bit unsettling to head off into the unknown! They said they will offer $250 pp for a "future cruise", but if we decide not to cruise again with Crystal this gesture is meaningless. We don't do river cruises (this is first), and for ocean cruises we've got other lines we're more loyal to. Despite Crystal looking disorganized and poor at communication right now, we're expecting that the onboard experience will quickly improve our view.

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Short report on yesterday's weather events. A heavy-laden band of clouds brought us rain and hail with violent storms in the Rhine valley. The Middle Rhine and Lower Rhine were more affected than the Upper Rhine. It appears from the radar images that the Vosges mountains took a lot of the rain away from the French section of the Rhine making more water drain into the Moselle than the Rhine itself. Hesse with Frankfurt was later affected with the airport closed for half an hour. Earlier clouds had brought more rain to areas downstream from Cologne. Cologne gauging station reacted with one of the biggest rises in water level. Unless the Black Forest and the Neckar can bring some of the rain they got into the Rhine and smaller tributaries contribute as well, the rises are short-lived.

 

 

Outlook for Maxau for next week is for levels fluctuating downward, yet not reaching down to the lowest they were on 6 August. Overall currently very little change for the better now and for the next six days. Unless it rains again heavily... Some rain is forecast for Monday.

 

 

Who knows, it might just be the extra ten centimetres your ship needs.

 

 

Edit: an article on the severe weather in Germany: https://www.dw.com/en/after-the-drought-the-storm-german-weather-chaos-continues/a-45030361 But parts of France were hit even harder.

 

 

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KittyKat52 Thank you so much for replying! I have been trying to find out how the CL's are handling the situation, as this is our first cruise ever and have nothing to compare it to. I do understand there are bigger issue afoot, however this is the only one I have any influence over so it is the one I am trying my best to understand. I hope you enjoy your trip even with all the changes made and it seems as Crystal is trying to help.

 

Bon Voyage and thank you again for answering my question!

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I've been watching this thread for a few days now. This'll be our first cruise, and I'm somewhat worried it won't be anything like what I envisioned because the boats may not be floating. We'll be headed from amsterdam-basel the 19th-26th, and I'm crossing my fingers the river will be up a couple cm by then.

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Does anyone have any information on Uniworld? We are not traveling until November, just wondering how they are navigating the Rhine with the low water levels?

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I've been watching this thread for a few days now. This'll be our first cruise, and I'm somewhat worried it won't be anything like what I envisioned because the boats may not be floating. We'll be headed from amsterdam-basel the 19th-26th, and I'm crossing my fingers the river will be up a couple cm by then.

 

We are also cruising Amsterdam to Basel on Viking the 19-26th and am also concerned. Have contacted travel agent with no information as of yet.

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We are also cruising Amsterdam to Basel on Viking the 19-26th and am also concerned. Have contacted travel agent with no information as of yet.

we're not on Viking, but I'll be curious if you hear anything. We haven't, yet.

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We just set sail from Amsterdam about 30 minutes ago on Viking Mani. In the briefing this evening nothing was said about changes in itinerary. I will be happy to post if there is a change. It rained quite heavily most of today in Amsterdam and a number of good showers yesterday as well.

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We are also cruising Amsterdam to Basel on Viking the 19-26th and am also concerned. Have contacted travel agent with no information as of yet.

 

9 days is far too far in the future for any reliable predictions unfortunately.

 

Even 2 or 3 days can make a significant difference either way.

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Hello Mark_T,

 

 

you are very right. 9 days is further away than any experts' predictions on the Rhine. 2 to 3 days is a forecast, after that they issue predictions 7 days out maximum. Those graphs always have an inbuilt variability. A significant change can happen within 48 hours which is happening right now. The three river levels I normally post for reference:

 

 

Maxau 383cm - a downward trend again after that area reacted to the heavy rainfall two days

 

 

Kaub 80cm - a nice rise, bringing the gauge above the GlW figure of 78cm for now (that is important for the navigation channel)

 

 

Koblenz 71cm - still fluctuating under the GlW figure of 78cm but a rise during the day is possible

 

 

That is all still too low, though, to make our minds feel at ease. Hopefully the slightly cooler temperatures and more rainfall on Monday will do the trick.

 

 

johng75370,

 

 

safe travels. As I posted a couple of days ago, I am sure you will love the Moselle.

 

 

Kittykat52,

 

 

I am sure Crystal has put some great excursions put together for you. I did not mean to upset you, the Rhine has great vistas downstream from Koblenz and castles, too. They do not match the Rhine gorge, of course. Looking forward to hearing your reports about Crystal's amendments, perhaps in the new thread that deals with the topic of river cruise companies' reactions to the low water situation.

 

 

Safe travels.

 

 

notamermaid

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We just set sail from Amsterdam about 30 minutes ago on Viking Mani. In the briefing this evening nothing was said about changes in itinerary. I will be happy to post if there is a change. It rained quite heavily most of today in Amsterdam and a number of good showers yesterday as well.

i would be interested to hear about your progress! enjoy your journey.

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histiomom,

 

 

looking forward to your reports. Have a great (uninterrupted) cruise. marinetraffic currently shows that the Viking Ingvi has made it through the gorge and will be approaching Koblenz soon. The Viking Idi is in the gorge going upstream and should reappear on the radar at its correct spot in a few hours at Rüdesheim. Positions are often not picked up in some areas along the gorge.

 

 

So what does it look like around the narrow stretches in the famous castle section? I found a nice short report on the current situation from the perspective of the vessels. Quite literally... A reporter of the German (license) TV channel ZDF went into the gorge and onto a barge. This is her report of 9 August from the narrow point at St. Goar. 00:12 is the Lorelei rock, 00:56 the two ships on the right have to wait till the container ship has passed through the narrows, 02:09 shows the castle in the river at Kaub called (Pfalzgrafenstein), 02:59 shows her visit to the ministry in Mainz and the interview where it is explained that the regional governments want to lobby for the federal government to invest in deepening the navigation channel of the Rhine. https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/zdf-mittagsmagazin/videos/wetter-geringe-pegelstanede-am-rhein-100.html

 

 

If you have any questions about the video, ask away.

 

 

notamermaid

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If you have any questions about the video, ask away.

 

 

notamermaid

 

 

That was very interesting! Thank you for all your help with us newbies :)

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Kittykat52,

 

 

I am sure Crystal has put some great excursions put together for you. I did not mean to upset you, the Rhine has great vistas downstream from Koblenz and castles, too. They do not match the Rhine gorge, of course. Looking forward to hearing your reports about Crystal's amendments, perhaps in the new thread that deals with the topic of river cruise companies' reactions to the low water situation.

 

 

Safe travels.

 

 

notamermaid

 

Thank you for reassuring me that we will still have interesting scenery from Koblenz to Amsterdam on the Crystal Debussy 😊.

 

We begin the first leg of our air tomorrow morning and will arrive in Basel Monday morning and then on to Frankfurt and the ship. ETA on board by 5 p.m. if travel progresses smoothly.

 

I will post once onboard concerning how Crystal handles our itinerary changes.

 

Which thread would be best for my posts on board? I have really enjoyed all of your help, notamermaid. I will miss your comments if I have to move to another thread!

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The Avalon Artistry II has been in the Linz area for a week now. Not sure if it’s stuck due to low levels or based on their schedule changes getting through locks. We are supposed to embark on it on the 25th in Amsterdam, but I expect our itinerary to change to Frankfurt and we’ll tootle around the Moselle. But I hope the ship gets off the Danube. Does anyone have any intel on this? Just curious how it all works. No matter what happens I think the trip will be awesome!:cool:

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I will be on the uniworld Antoinette September 9th. This will be my first river cruise so not sure what to expect if the ship can’t make it to Basel where we are flying home from. Will uniworld give us a heads up about any change in itinerary or is the ship able to navigate shallow water ?

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Smooth cruising so far. Planned excursion stops in Rotterdam and Kinderdijk this morning plus an unexpected stop at Gorinchem due to an unfortunate medical event. Entered the Rhine from the Waal about an hour ago. Sailing overnight to stop in Cologne tomorrow. No discussion of any changes to itinerary.

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Hello vino100,

 

The SS Antoinette is a IMHO beautiful ship of long length with a draft given as 1.6m. If she cannot sail to Basel you will hear when onboard and Uniworld will make sure that you reach Basel by coach I assume. This would be standard procedure. If you need further assistance or would like to discuss such a scenario before you leave for Europe, you could always send Uniworld an email.

 

There is of course the possibility that Uniworld decides proactively to amend the itinerary (see posts further above) but for that your cruise is too far into the future.

 

notamermaid

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Hello vino100,

 

The SS Antoinette is a IMHO beautiful ship of long length with a draft given as 1.6m. If she cannot sail to Basel you will hear when onboard and Uniworld will make sure that you reach Basel by coach I assume. This would be standard procedure. If you need further assistance or would like to discuss such a scenario before you leave for Europe, you could always send Uniworld an email.

 

There is of course the possibility that Uniworld decides proactively to amend the itinerary (see posts further above) but for that your cruise is too far into the future.

 

notamermaid

Notamermaid you are so appreciated. Your knowledge is so helpful to all of us newbies to river cruising.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that my cruise is not in a bus ! We are celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary and splurged on a suite. Not sure I would want to spend that much for a bus tour.

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Smooth cruising so far. Planned excursion stops in Rotterdam and Kinderdijk this morning plus an unexpected stop at Gorinchem due to an unfortunate medical event. Entered the Rhine from the Waal about an hour ago. Sailing overnight to stop in Cologne tomorrow. No discussion of any changes to itinerary.

Thank you so much! Our cruise isn't until the beginning of October. I know things can change but it's great to get this info.

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