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Does the Escape have any passengers while moving from Miami to New York for the home port change? Just curious.

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Does the Escape have any passengers while moving from Miami to New York for the home port change? Just curious.

 

 

 

No, this will be a crew only shuttle from Miami to NYC.

 

 

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No, this will be a crew only shuttle from Miami to NYC.

 

 

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I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC.

 

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I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC.

 

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The crew loves taking a well deserved break and enjoy the ship for themselves for a few days. Plus, I would not doubt thorough sanitization taking place as well before she reaches her new home.

 

 

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I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC.

 

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But let’s just say, if it were open for sale, I’d be there ;)

 

 

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The crew loves taking a well deserved break and enjoy the ship for themselves for a few days. Plus, I would not doubt thorough sanitization taking place as well before she reaches her new home.

 

 

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Well that is nice for the crew. I have no problem with that but knowing how these cruise lines operate I'm still surprised they didn't you and get revenue from the move.

 

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I'm actually surprised they didn't try to fill the ship up on a one way trip from FL to NYC.

 

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it is common for a ship to sail empty between US ports. Carnival does the same thing when it reposition a ship from FL to NY

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But let’s just say, if it were open for sale, I’d be there ;)

 

 

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See, exactly my point. Ha ha

 

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I’m also pretty sure they are not allowed to operate a 2 night cruise with passengers without stopping in a foreign port. It’s the law I believe. Simply not enough time to do so, as well.

 

 

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Foreign flag ships are not allowed to sail between two US ports with passengers without a stop in a distant foreign port.

 

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Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :)

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Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :)

 

 

 

Would not be possible in the time allotted

 

 

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Would not be possible in the time allotted

 

 

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At this point = correct. BUT, planning for the move started way before it wasn't "possible".

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Foreign flag ships are not allowed to sail between two US ports with passengers without a stop in a distant foreign port.

 

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That is a really, really dumb rule unless someone can tell me a good reason it's in place? It sounds really stupid.

 

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The last cruise in Miami is only 6 days. Did they think a 8 day repositioning cruise starting in Miami ending in New York wouldn't sell?

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Some silly comments here. Do you think that NCL doesn't want to maximize profits every single day if they can? Laws are laws and that's just the way it is. NCL, Carnival, RCCL, all abide by those laws and take advantage of not having passengers onboard by doing extra cleaning, maintenance and THANKFULLY, a few extra hours off for the crew.

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That is a really, really dumb rule unless someone can tell me a good reason it's in place? It sounds really stupid.

 

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The Jones Act. Thats the reason.

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The Jones Act. Thats the reason.
Oh that explains everything. What is the reasoning behind that and was it really intended for cruise ships?

 

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Seems like a loss of revenue in my opinion. Wouldn't be hard to add a Nassau stop- at the least. :)

nassau is not a distant foreign port. the only distant foreign port that count for these laws is the ABC islands.

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I’m surprised this wasn’t an 8 day repositioning cruise: Miami to NYC.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they do some work, like convert Bayamo to Ocean Blue.

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The Jones Act. Thats the reason.
Jones Act deals with cargo

 

Pvsa deals with Passengers

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/23/~/the-jones-act-%26-the-passenger-vessel-services-act

 

The Passenger Vessel Services Act, (PVSA), 46 U.S.C. § 55103 (b), places the same restrictions on the coastwise movement of people. It is this act that prohibits commercial vessels such as cruise ships from allowing passengers to board at one U.S. port and debark at another U.S. port.

 

The applicable CBP regulation regarding penalties for violating the PVSA is found in 19 CFR § 4.80(b)(2), which provides that "[t]he penalty imposed for the unlawful transportation of passengers between coastwise points is $300 for each passenger so transported and landed as adjusted by the Federal Civil Penalties Inflation Adjustment Act of 1990), see Federal Register.

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Jones Act deals with cargo

 

Pvsa deals with Passengers

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/23/~/the-jones-act-%26-the-passenger-vessel-services-act

 

The Passenger Vessel Services Act, (PVSA), 46 U.S.C. § 55103 (b), places the same restrictions on the coastwise movement of people. It is this act that prohibits commercial vessels such as cruise ships from allowing passengers to board at one U.S. port and debark at another U.S. port.

 

The applicable CBP regulation regarding penalties for violating the PVSA is found in 19 CFR § 4.80(b)(2), which provides that "[t]he penalty imposed for the unlawful transportation of passengers between coastwise points is $300 for each passenger so transported and landed as adjusted by the Federal Civil Penalties Inflation Adjustment Act of 1990), see Federal Register.

Makes zero sense but it's a law. A dumb law is still a law.

 

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Makes zero sense but it's a law. A dumb law is still a law.

 

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the only way around this law is to build and register a cruise ship here in the US similar to what NCL did with the Pride of America ship

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