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Just got off the Eurodam. Smoking is only allowed in one small, outdoor area. No smoking in the casino or anywhere else. Unless you go to the smoking area, there is no smoke smell.

 

Sailing Eurodam later this year. Good news for me (non-smoker), not so good news for DW (smoker and casino fan)..

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I really miss having a nice cigar on my verandah. Last cruise I did have a couple cigars on the Lido deck outside area. Good place to pick up on scuttlebutt because the crew smokes there too.

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:cool: I agree, more crew and especially officers smoking than anyone else. I need my two cigars a day!

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Cigars give me an instant migraine. I don’t know why. I am so thankful they’re only in one place now.

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We have not sailed Holland before. Mainly because of their past smoking policy. Very allergic. Recently we decided to book a trans Atlantic. I understand from Holland’s site that smoking is prohibited on balconies. But after reading some reviews I am concerned. Many say that passengers still smoke out on their balconies and even after reporting the problem the crew does nothing. Am I just a bit over concerned??

We have sailed HA numerous times and there has always been someone smoking on balcony’s. Casino is horribly smokey and so is the outside deck area. I complain every time I write a review.

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A couple of months ago I was told by a HAL rep that smoking would be allowed in Casino on the Nieuw Statendam. Has anyone heard anything different? Very surprised and disappointed as this is a brand new ship. Feeling is they could have smoking policy from the start - less work then implementing no smoking policy later on.

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Posted (edited)

I just got off a 14 day cruise on Koningsdam July 22. By my measure, I found no problems with second hand smoke on Koningsdam in the casino. Maybe a brief smell now and then but nothing to spoil the night about. Come to think of it, I noticed less than a handful of smokers the whole cruise in the casino.

Prior to this cruise, I was so afraid my trip would be ruined after reading some of the posts about Koningsdam smoking policy but my fears were set to rest.

On the balcony, I never smelled anything but God's sweet ocean.

Edited by JMorris271

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A couple of months ago I was told by a HAL rep that smoking would be allowed in Casino on the Nieuw Statendam. Has anyone heard anything different? Very surprised and disappointed as this is a brand new ship. Feeling is they could have smoking policy from the start - less work then implementing no smoking policy later on.

 

I've heard that NCL splits the casino into two non-smoking and smoking rooms. Hopefully, HAL will follow suit?

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I just got off a 14-day cruise on Koningsdam July 22. By my measure, I found no problems with second hand smoke on Koningsdam in the casino. Maybe a brief smell now and then but nothing to spoil the night about. Come to think of it, I noticed less than a handful of smokers the whole cruise in the casino.

Prior to this cruise, I was so afraid my trip would be ruined after reading some of the posts about Koningsdam smoking policy but my fears were set to rest.

On the balcony, I never smelled anything but God's sweet ocean.

 

Was on the same cruise. Sadly, we never got to see the midnight sun "setting" as the clouds obscured the view, but there was a whole lotta daytime! And all the smokers stayed in the smoker's area. I know. Kept a good eye on them ~ ;p

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Was on the same cruise. Sadly, we never got to see the midnight sun "setting" as the clouds obscured the view, but there was a whole lotta daytime! And all the smokers stayed in the smoker's area. I know. Kept a good eye on them ~ ;p

We had an overdose of light for sure. I missed seeing the stars.

I just did my review.

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We had an overdose of light for sure. I missed seeing the stars.

 

Me, too! My best friend hugged me the night the moon first appeared. :D

 

I just did my review.

 

I'll go read it. Mine is about half-finished b/c I'm a perfectionist like that.

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Me, too! My best friend hugged me the night the moon first appeared. :D

 

 

 

I'll go read it. Mine is about half-finished b/c I'm a perfectionist like that.

This was the survey I should have said. Sorry. But I gave them High marks.

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This is only fair, they need to consider it. I’m a former smoker and know that it’s not a switch you just “turn off” for 7 days (or longer). While we can hope that eventually no one will smoke, the reality now is very much different.

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Today I had a reply from HAL re smoking policy on Nieuw Statendam

"The Nieuw Statendam should have the same smoking policy that the Koningsdam currently has. Smoking on Koningsdam is currently only allowed in designated areas (Seaview Bar/Pool portside only and in designated areas in casino for active slot players. This is subject to change."

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I was unable to edit my previous Message. Should of read smoking will be allowed in the Seaview Bar, Starboard side on the Nieuw Statendam just as it is on the Koningsdam.

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Please! Please! Do not demean my husband. We all know he should stop smoking. We are planning a cruise on the Rotterdam in December 2018, and are wondering where on the ship he is allowed to smoke. Thanks very much for you concern and consideration!

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Please! Please! Do not demean my husband. We all know he should stop smoking. We are planning a cruise on the Rotterdam in December 2018, and are wondering where on the ship he is allowed to smoke. Thanks very much for you concern and consideration!

 

Outside starboard aft Sea View pool and occasionally in Casino if actually gambling.

 

No longer can smoke on cabin balconies.

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STOP! People need to smoke and anything you complain about will not detract from that. Give them their nights in the casino (don't go there those nights if you have a problem since they are probably making more money from the smokers) and give them the FEW areas of the ship they can smoke! They are also paying a premium for the SA balcony cabins for which they cannot use to smoke.! STOP STOP COMPLAINING! These are the rules and if you don't like them, sail another cruise line!

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STOP! People need to smoke and anything you complain about will not detract from that. Give them their nights in the casino (don't go there those nights if you have a problem since they are probably making more money from the smokers) and give them the FEW areas of the ship they can smoke! They are also paying a premium for the SA balcony cabins for which they cannot use to smoke.! STOP STOP COMPLAINING! These are the rules and if you don't like them, sail another cruise line!

Yes, Cruise on Celebrity which is pristine and Non-Smoker friendly. Casino is nonsmoking. It is clean and delightful. I still cruise on HAL from time to time but no HAL casino for me.

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People need to smoke ...
It simply isn't true. My spouse hasn't lit a cigarette for over a decade, and quit specifically during a vacation (changing a habit works best when you are out of your normal routine regardless), switching to nicotine gum to address the "need".

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....... they are probably making more money from the smokers)

 

Not necessarily. See the second paragraph of my post #99 on this thread.

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I've heard that NCL splits the casino into two non-smoking and smoking rooms. Hopefully, HAL will follow suit?

 

 

If they did not divide the two rooms with a complete wall, it's a joke. Smoke 'drifts', as most of us know.

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STOP! People need to smoke and anything you complain about will not detract from that. Give them their nights in the casino (don't go there those nights if you have a problem since they are probably making more money from the smokers) and give them the FEW areas of the ship they can smoke! They are also paying a premium for the SA balcony cabins for which they cannot use to smoke.! STOP STOP COMPLAINING! These are the rules and if you don't like them, sail another cruise line!

 

I gave up smoking (to have a baby) 25 years ago. I know how hard it is to do even with a good reason. However, there are better options to accommodate smokers than having their smoke impacting on non-smokers in the casino. In Australia, many clubs with slots have sheltered outdoor areas for smokers complete with slots as smoking is banned indoors https://tabcorpgaming.com.au/playing-outdoors/

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We left HAL ten years ago due to smoke. I am an active casino player but will not play in a casino where smoking us permitted. I have now returned to HAL due to casino NS policy on some ships. Am currently on Zuiderdam and loving it. HAL has upped their game significantly in the areas of entertainment and customer service. Hopefully HAL will ban smoking in all of their ships' casinos at some point.

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Looking at the Nieuw Statendam for 2019 but very concerned about the smoking ... usually sail Celebrity where that is not an issue inside the ship ... does the smoke from the casino make it to the entertainment / music venues on the ship ????

 

Thanks ,

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We didn't notice any issue in that regard on Nieuw Amsterdam.

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We didn't notice any issue in that regard on Nieuw Amsterdam.

 

Nieuw Amsterdam is non smoking and has a different configuration than Nieuw Statendam. Nieuw Statendam is configured like Konigsdam which allows casino smoking. HAL has issued conflicting information about whether casino smoking will be allowed in casino on Nieuw Statendam but latest info indicates that it will be allowed. I hope that changes.

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On our recent Koningsdam cruise the smoke from the casino did go into other areas...including the stairwell down to the music walk.

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On 10/7/2018 at 6:49 AM, edgee said:

 

HAL has issued conflicting information about whether casino smoking will be allowed in casino on Nieuw Statendam but latest info indicates that it will be allowed. 

 

May I ask when or how HAL suggested that the N.S. casino might be non-smoking?

Edited by stickey_mouse

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I received strong indications from senior officers on recent Zuiderdam cruise that all new HAL ships and those coming out of next drydock would have non smoking casinos. However other posters on Cruise Critic have indicated otherwise from their communucation with corporate office...thus my pessimism that number of NS casino ships will be expanded.

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On 8/24/2018 at 8:22 PM, WDeany said:

STOP! People need to smoke and anything you complain about will not detract from that. Give them their nights in the casino (don't go there those nights if you have a problem since they are probably making more money from the smokers) and give them the FEW areas of the ship they can smoke! They are also paying a premium for the SA balcony cabins for which they cannot use to smoke.! STOP STOP COMPLAINING! These are the rules and if you don't like them, sail another cruise line!

 

People need to smoke:   NO THEY DONT

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On 4/2/2018 at 9:34 AM, tpwolfe said:

We were in the Koningsdam for 21 days in March and I was wondering why they still allow smoking inside the ship. The casino was basically forward/mid ship on deck 3. To get from one end of the ship to the other end inside the ship on deck 3 you needed to pass through the casino and the stink of cigarette smoke. Even on non smoking nights it still had cigarette odor. The worst part of allowing smoking in the casino on the Koningsdam it was right above the Lincoln Center and Billboard and the smell of cigarette smoke filtered down into these two areas on deck 2. The smell was very noticeable on deck 2 so if they going to allow smoking on deck 3 and it stinks up deck 2 why not go ahead and allow smoking on deck 2. It wouldn't make much difference. Before you go off on that comment I don't want that to happen I'm just think it wouldn't make much difference because of the smell is already there on deck 2. I know people are addicted to smoking and on sea days it would be tough on them. Why not just limit smoking to the sea view pool area where it is already allowed and get it completely out of the inside of the ship. People say the smoke stink problem will be fixed in dry dock. Easy fix is ban smoking inside the ship altogether.

I am a smoker but I use the outside smoking area only! I don't spend a lot of time in the casino but do a little roulette a couple  of nights. It never occurred to me to smoke while I gamble! I would be in favor of a non smoking casinos. My guess is HAL dosn't want serious gamblers leaving the casino to go grab a smoke.  

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21 hours ago, Sail or sale said:

I am a smoker but I use the outside smoking area only! I don't spend a lot of time in the casino but do a little roulette a couple  of nights. It never occurred to me to smoke while I gamble! I would be in favor of a non smoking casinos. My guess is HAL dosn't want serious gamblers leaving the casino to go grab a smoke.  

That might be true.  But then there is the other problem (for HAL) that some serious gamblers (such as me) will not ever gamble in a casino that smells like an ash tray.  So we have avoided HAL casinos for our last 400+ HAL days and likely saved thousands of dollars.....and cost HAL the same.

 

Hank

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On 10/30/2018 at 5:08 PM, Sail or sale said:

I am a smoker but I use the outside smoking area only! I don't spend a lot of time in the casino but do a little roulette a couple  of nights. It never occurred to me to smoke while I gamble! I would be in favor of a non smoking casinos. My guess is HAL dosn't want serious gamblers leaving the casino to go grab a smoke.  

You may be the only smoker I've ever heard of who never thought of smoking in a casino . :classic_huh:

I quit 25 years ago and I still think of smoking when I'm in a casino . 

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12 hours ago, richstowe said:

You may be the only smoker I've ever heard of who never thought of smoking in a casino . :classic_huh:

I quit 25 years ago and I still think of smoking when I'm in a casino . 

LOL! I can top that one. I don't drink either. Never touch the stuff. I don't care if anyone else drinks but I dosnt interest me! I am not the typical smoker but addicted just the same.

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On 10/7/2018 at 3:51 AM, bUU said:

We didn't notice any issue in that regard on Nieuw Amsterdam.

So enjoyed the non smoking walking through and in the Casino area on our 21 day Panama trip on the Nieuw Amsterdam.   Had been away from HAL cruising for about 4 years and was so pleased to see no smoking in the Casino area...now I'm reading that the Nieuw Statendam is considering smoking in Casino, yikes!!  We are heading there for a couple of weeks in the late winter, sure hoping it is non smoking! 

During our Panama cruise there was one balcony close to us that still smoked, fortunately it was only occasionally. 

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5 minutes ago, GBCanadacruiser said:

Sorry to hear smoking is still allowed in the casino.  Have loved HAL but won’t book again until they revise their smoking policies.

 

Yeah, it's a major bummer to hear that even the newest build, the Nieuw Statendam, is allowing smoking in its casino. 

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