debgreg Posted June 15, 2019 #3426 Share Posted June 15, 2019 12 hours ago, LouTheGlue said: My upgrade offer was approved today for Sunday June 16th, 2019 Epic Cruise from Barcelona. We originally booked Inside Cabin FWD 9030 and got an AFT Balcony 13289. Below is a chart of what was offered, my bids and the winning bid highlighted in Red ($265.00 CAD pp). Where cabins on deck 13 showing as available, on mine only deck 8 is showing as available and suddenly a Haven 2 bedroom has come up when it was previously showing as sold out, long past final payment too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJRfamily Posted June 15, 2019 #3427 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 11:57 PM, AK Dreaming said: I'm on a June 30th cruise and have been monitoring one of the sites that gives available cabins. I currently have a GTY OV, but it says all OV are booked. I still have no room assignment. I am unsure how to bid? If all OV have been assigned will I already be in a balcony? Should I still bid on one? its a facinating process with so many variables , we booked 8 months prior, IX and got allocated IE almost immediately and way before final payment - there seems to be no logic in how they allocate its very interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithPlus1 Posted June 16, 2019 #3428 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Do you still get bid offers if you paid for an interior cabin that's a sailaway rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Nclgetawaymenhoney Posted June 16, 2019 #3429 Share Posted June 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, FaithPlus1 said: Do you still get bid offers if you paid for an interior cabin that's a sailaway rate? Yes unless you booked from a ta that does not participate in the program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithPlus1 Posted June 16, 2019 #3430 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 12:50 PM, cksv said: Yeah really! I wish Cruise Critic had a "Wiki" function where anyone could edit information in a post on the first page. I've seen this on some other forums and it's super useful when you have a bunch of people contributing different data points. I think what happens is most of the posts on here are just comments instead of actually responding to the original post. I'm not going to read 138 pages of comments where most of it doesn't address what was specifically said by the OP. I have this issue with Tripadvisor. I could say "What's a great place for pizza?" and the responses will be "For hamburgers eat at XXXXXX" or "You shouldn't eat pizza" etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Dreaming Posted June 18, 2019 #3431 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 12:33 AM, FaithPlus1 said: I think what happens is most of the posts on here are just comments instead of actually responding to the original post. I'm not going to read 138 pages of comments where most of it doesn't address what was specifically said by the OP. I have this issue with Tripadvisor. I could say "What's a great place for pizza?" and the responses will be "For hamburgers eat at XXXXXX" or "You shouldn't eat pizza" etc. Most of it does deal with the upgrade process. We are all just trying to figure it out and the more data the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbhardy Posted June 18, 2019 #3432 Share Posted June 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, AK Dreaming said: Most of it does deal with the upgrade process. We are all just trying to figure it out and the more data the better. That’s the point. No amount of data will help you “figure it out” because there’s no magic formula. Thinking otherwise is pretty naive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper305 Posted June 18, 2019 #3433 Share Posted June 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, gmbhardy said: That’s the point. No amount of data will help you “figure it out” because there’s no magic formula. Thinking otherwise is pretty naive I’ve never played blackjack. By your logic I should just go to a blackjack table pluck down a $5 chip and see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted June 18, 2019 #3434 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, gmbhardy said: That’s the point. No amount of data will help you “figure it out” because there’s no magic formula. Thinking otherwise is pretty naive There's certainly no magic formula, but understanding how the process works, what factors go into a winning bid, and getting a picture of what bids have won under which circumstances in the past can definitely help you make an educated decision when placing bids. On every one of my sailings, I think I have had a very good sense of what kind of bid (if any) could win my desired upgrade thanks to all of the data and history in this thread and its predecessor, along with tracking pricing and inventory on my specific sailings. Unfortunately, for most of my sailings, the total needed for a successful bid has been too rich for my blood. But I think in every single case, I could have won a bid had I been willing to bid what I strongly suspected would win. The main down side of this thread is that it clearly illustrates that winning bid amounts are very specific to ships and sailings. Unless the person is willing to put in the leg work of tracking inventory and pricing on THEIR sailing, it's highly unlikely they are going to just be able to pop in here and ask "what do I need to bid to win this room?" and get a very accurate answer. There is definitely no EASY magic formula. And, as much as I don't mind answering general questions about the upgrade process, I simply do not have the time to do all the research needed on every individual sailing to be able to help people out when they ask what a winning bid should/would be for THEIR sailing in their specific situation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Nclgetawaymenhoney Posted June 18, 2019 #3435 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Jamie well said, the key is educated guess and do your homework, including reading this thread and tracking your individual cruise. There is no magic answer but the reason I believe I have been successful on each of my four upgrades is the research and tracking I have done. I do wish though that people would not over bid though, it’s also in this thread I’ve seen people “win” on what the thought was a great bid, and ive went to double check since my instinct is their bid is to high, and it almost always is, they could have just upgraded outright. This over bidding has a trickledown effect for data mining for future cruises not just the cure overbid amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie23 Posted June 18, 2019 #3436 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Greenpea2 Posted June 18, 2019 #3437 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Wedgie23 said: I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. Booking directly with NCL, you are included in bidding process. I can't answer the other Qs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhquilter1 Posted June 18, 2019 #3438 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wedgie23 said: I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. I booked through a TA and got the upgrade email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted June 18, 2019 #3439 Share Posted June 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, Wedgie23 said: I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. Bookings through CAS are eligible for the upgrade advantage program as well as those booking directly through NCL. Many TAs also participate, but the big box store you are referring to is a notable exception. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a son of a ... Posted June 18, 2019 #3440 Share Posted June 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Wedgie23 said: I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. You can mention TAs, but you cannot recommend them. Priceline and Expedia both participate in the bidding program. That statement is a fact and not a recommendation. I would estimate that for half our cruises we do not bid because we like our initial cabin selection and location. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted June 18, 2019 #3441 Share Posted June 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, Wedgie23 said: I know I'm not allowed to mention specific TAs per the rules. For my two cruises I used a large brick and mortar TA and was never invited to participate in upgrades. This time I booked through Casinos at sea as I got a discount, does the discount/CaS booking bar me from participating as well? For future cruises, are people booking ordinarily through ncl.com eligible for the bidding or must you work with only specific (I know you can't tell me which) TAs? Thank you if anyone knows. Their is not a list of TA's. If you want to use a TA when booking the easiest thing to do BEFORE booking with them is just asked if they participate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie23 Posted June 18, 2019 #3442 Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, JamieLogical said: Bookings through CAS are eligible for the upgrade advantage program as well as those booking directly through NCL. Many TAs also participate, but the big box store you are referring to is a notable exception Thank you! I'm honored to get a reply from JamieLogical. I've been reading these forums for awhile now and you are hands down my favorite poster! I think I'll be basing whether or not I give Encore a try next summer on what you have to say about it.. No pressure 😃 I may have unintentionally mislead, I *think* I know which one you're speaking about but by brick and mortar I just meant one that still had physical locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgie23 Posted June 18, 2019 #3443 Share Posted June 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Son of a son of a ... said: You can mention TAs, but you cannot recommend them. Ah thank you for the clarification. Then I can say I previously booked through Liberty Travel and per my experiences they do not participate in the upgrade program for anyone reading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenjohncourt Posted June 18, 2019 #3444 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 10:34 AM, Say811 said: Anyone receive an upgrade on the Star yet for Greek isles cruise? I don’t sail for 12 days so still have a wait but just wondering if anyone got upgraded on any previous sailings this month so far. Did you get upgraded ? I'm going in August & no upgrade yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say811 Posted June 18, 2019 #3445 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Jenjohncourt said: Did you get upgraded ? I'm going in August & no upgrade yet. Still waiting...bids show as pending. A woman on the 6/16 sailing didn’t get her successful upgrade notice until Friday...so much closer to 48 hour mark....I have been checking obsessively though this week....worst case scenario is 3 more days of agony!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenjohncourt Posted June 18, 2019 #3446 Share Posted June 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Say811 said: Still waiting...bids show as pending. A woman on the 6/16 sailing didn’t get her successful upgrade notice until Friday...so much closer to 48 hour mark....I have been checking obsessively though this week....worst case scenario is 3 more days of agony!!!! I really hope you get the upgrade. I'm sure you're anxiously waiting to hear. Have a fantastic time & keep us updated. Fingers crossed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhquilter1 Posted June 18, 2019 #3447 Share Posted June 18, 2019 If your bid is declined, do you get an opportunity to bid again or are you done? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Nclgetawaymenhoney Posted June 18, 2019 #3448 Share Posted June 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, nhquilter1 said: If your bid is declined, do you get an opportunity to bid again or are you done? TIA Bids are not declined until approximately 48 hours before cruise so the answer is no you are done bidding when we get the declined notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinyturtle22 Posted June 18, 2019 #3449 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nclgetawaymenhoney said: Bids are not declined until approximately 48 hours before cruise so the answer is no you are done bidding when we get the declined notice There is no longer a 48 hour window. If you read the newest terms and conditions in your upgrade email you will see it says “Important InformationNCL reserves the right to not accept any offer regardless of offer amount or stateroom availability. Availability of upgrades is limited and is made at the sole discretion of NCL. NCL reserves the right to accept any offer from the time it is submitted to the departure date and time.” As well as on the website.https://www.ncl.com/content/upgrade-advantage-terms #5 “ANY TIME before the sail date.” I have been upgraded as late as the evening before departure and know others who have been as well. Edited June 18, 2019 by Tinyturtle22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JamieLogical Posted June 19, 2019 #3450 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Wedgie23 said: Thank you! I'm honored to get a reply from JamieLogical. I've been reading these forums for awhile now and you are hands down my favorite poster! Aw, that's super sweet. Happy to be of help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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