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I am also just off the Star. I think the crispest food we had was the fish and chips at the Pub lunch on Monday. We had to wait a while, but it was fresh and tasty. My mom enjoyed the crisp fish fingers in the buffet, and I found the scalloped turkey to be brown and crisp as well.

You will rarely find crisp food in the MDR, because it all comes from the kitchen in dome covered plates.

I agree about the lack of salt. A lot of older cruisers have to mind their sodium intake, and it is easier to add salt at the table than to prepare multiple versions of the same dish. The curry dishes were nicely seasoned, and the curried vegetables one evening in the buffet actually left a "slow burn"!

The worst dish we ordered was the stuffed trout.

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[quote name='floridalover5623']Wow, I you sure you were on the Royal Princess?
They have had one of the best buffets of all the Princess ships in the past.
And the cleanest.[/quote]

I didn't say it wasn't clean. It was. And, yes, I am quite sure I was on the Royal Princess, thank you very much. Besides, whatever you experienced in the past had no bearing on my experience last month.

The consistently poor food was mainly a problem of the buffet, but we also had it in the dining room. In the buffet, certainly at breakfast, none of the heating plates ever appeared to be switched on, or on enough, to keep the food anything but luke warm, the items were often not replenished, and no offer to make fresh ones, instead, you were sent to another part of the buffet, which was a long walk in a crowded room and, if you were lucky to find what you wanted, they were also cool or cold, and so was the rest of your 'hot' breakfast by the time you got back to your seat.

Woe betide if you started eating in the bistro (often the only place to sit), because they would close off that section, again necessitating a trek to the other end of the buffet, and the same problems.
Aside from breakfast items, the variety of the buffet food, in general, was poor, poorly cooked, poorly presented and, most important, not very tasty. Only one rice dish, always the same, and looking like brown slop, and you were lucky to find fish, which was always tiny and mushy.
If it had been just one or two off days, I would have said we were unlucky, but every day/lunch/evening we were in there? And a LOT of passengers we spoke to said the same, so it wasn't just us being picky.

We are Platinum Princess and have sailed with a lot of other cruise lines as well, and have generally always found the food good but, on this cruise, it was very under par - apart from Alfredo's Pizzeria, which was fantastic, and service outstanding. And, therein lies the answer, I believe. Alfredo's was often under patronised (maybe because it's so nice to look at passengers assume it's a paid-for restaurant) and the ratio of staff to guests was much higher than in either the buffet or dining room. I can remember when there was a wait staff member eager to serve/help you every which way you looked, those days have obviously gone, but the price on the Royal was there for all to see. Very disappointing.

I hope they get their act together for their American stint, if so, my complaints, and that of others, will have served a purpose. It's just a pity our cruise was spoilt somewhat by the poor dining experience.

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[quote name='rbt001']
Sometime last year I could have sworn I saw Jan Schwartz and a few in suits huddled together and taking copious notes at my local Golden Corral. [/quote]

I hope they took good notes. The last time I ate at Golden Corral the steaks were more flavorful and more tender than I have had on Princess in a very long time.

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[quote name='rbt001']This one deserves a breakdown.... so let's have some fun!

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]The buffet pretty much sucks. [/B][/COLOR]
Sometime last year I could have sworn I saw Jan Schwartz and a few in suits huddled together and taking copious notes at my local Golden Corral. And ... hmmm... others have complained on here too. Go figure!

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]Every morning, the buffet food is exactly the same. [/B][/COLOR]
I have it on good authority that in fact it is different food every morning. People eat most of it, and what's leftover on the buffet line is tossed out. So it's never the same food.

Now as for variety, I let you speak:

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]The buffet is very limited, and really doesn't have much variety. [/B][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000][B]Oatmeal, deep fried potato triangles, refried beans, rice, a few pastries, bacon, eggs, sausage, yogurt, canned sugary peaches, pineapple, cantaloupe, really mushy muesli, really mushy yogurt parfaits.[/B][/COLOR]
[B]Whew![/B] Let me sit down: I'm exhausted just reading that extensive list! And perhaps you were tired too, as you left off:

baked beans and grilled tomatoes to complete a Full English Breakfast, sliced meats and slice cheeses with rolls for German and Swiss guests, a few Asian dishes that change, and I've even seen Octopus Ball soup (think meatballs, not...)

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]The pancakes, "fried" eggs, bacon, and pancakes are ok.[/B][/COLOR]
Now had you taken those pictures you're sorry about not taking, you'll find that most mornings, rather than pancakes and pancakes, they have waffles and french toast.

They always have those Egg Whopper sandwiches... you know the English Muffin with cheese, egg and Canadian Bacon? (Named as such to avoid McDonald's irk.)

[B]Still not satisfied with the variety? [/B]

Then step up for a made to order omelet which can include: green pepper, onions, tomatoes, mushrooms, ham, bacon, sausage, cheddar cheese, swiss cheese... and I'm sure I missed some.

A mathematician can calculate the almost infinite combinations with those 10 ingredients before you triple the number as you switch it up between eggs, egg whites, and "Egg Beaters" substitute eggs!

I bet one could take a Round the World cruise and order a different omelet combination every day! Now how's THAT for variety!!


[COLOR=#ff0000][B]Avoid the scrambled eggs at all costs. They taste like chemicals. [/B][/COLOR]
Good point about avoiding scrambled eggs on a buffet; it's rare to find them soft and fluffy no matter the venue of the buffet. However, a chemical taste? Perhaps it was just a bitterness.

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]really mushy muesli[/B][/COLOR] Is delicious! Properly made, the oats and/or other grains are soaked overnight to allow softening as the fruits impart their flavor.

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]My hubby & I are not really picky.....hubby will eat anything...We were really disappointed,[/B][/COLOR]
Ya don't say!

[COLOR=#ff0000][B]he left a lot of food on his buffet plates.[/B][/COLOR]
"Plates" is the operative word, in plural form.

But then again, what do I know. I prefer breakfast in the dining room with its mundane and routine menu that never changes on the left side. As I'm handed my menu, I close my eye until I can fold the menu inside out and avoid seeing that page to the right: Everyday it's different! I prefer the routine and standardization of the left side that NEVER changes: every breakfast item that Westerner's typically eat is listed. It never changes. How comforting.[/quote]

Love your post :D:D:D:D

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[quote name='caribill']I hope they took good notes. The last time I ate at Golden Corral the steaks were more flavorful and more tender than I have had on Princess in a very long time.[/quote]

Funny! I've seen those steak commercials. And I do agree with you concerning Princess Steak.

A little over a year ago, a particularly nice casino here in South Florida that I used to frequent, tinkered (no.... gutted) their upscale buffet. To upper management listening I said: "If you need to save money to meet your debt service, then completely CLOSE DOWN the buffet and just issue coupons for the Golden Corral where we can get a better cut of meat!" There was one two minutes away.

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[quote name='Karlzmom']Just off Star Princess. Overall the food was ok, in my subjective opinion. A few specific observations:

1. On 3 days of a 4 night cruise there was offal of some sort. Have to confess that I laughed thinking about how it got greenlighted to put liver and onions on a lunch buffet. [COLOR=#ff0000]Seriously, if you ask 100 people if liver is a "go to" dish, [/COLOR]how many will raise their hand? Yet someone put it on the plan, it got ordered and cooked up and apparently didn't raise an eyebrow. I made a joke about what's tomorrow, kidney? I was right! Steak and kidney pie it was. Yes, I know, some people like it but we were now on day 2 of organs. Not having learned, I joked that all that was left was sweetbreads. Wouldn't you know it? They were on the dinner menu . Again, I get that there are some people who eat the stuff but in the spectrum of foods that could be made seems like the dishes are not exactly mainstream nor such a delicacy to make passengers happy to see them.


As I said at the outset, food preferences are subjective. My standard for "crispy" or "seasoned" may vary from yours, so take this for what its worth.[/quote]

[COLOR=#FF0000]Seriously, if you ask 100 people if liver is a "go to" dish, [/COLOR]

If those 100 where from

[LIST]
[*]The United Kingdom
[*]Germany
[*]Certain parts of Pennsylvania
[*]Certain parts of the USA midwest
[*]France
[*]Latin America
[/LIST]Then the majority might find it a "go to" dish. The also might enjoy many of the other organ meats you saw.

The Princess menus revolve around a multi-cultural passenger make up.

It's a big, big world out there!

Food is subjective, but it's also cultural.

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In my Bunco group of 12 ladies, five of us, including me, would go out of our way to a restaurant with good liver and onions.
That surprised me!


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[quote name='Karlzmom']Just off Star Princess. Overall the food was ok, in my subjective opinion. A few specific observations:

1. On 3 days of a 4 night cruise there was offal of some sort. Have to confess that I laughed thinking about how it got greenlighted to put liver and onions on a lunch buffet. Seriously, if you ask 100 people if liver is a "go to" dish, how many will raise their hand? Yet someone put it on the plan, it got ordered and cooked up and apparently didn't raise an eyebrow. I made a joke about what's tomorrow, kidney? I was right! Steak and kidney pie it was. Yes, I know, some people like it but we were now on day 2 of organs. Not having learned, I joked that all that was left was sweetbreads. Wouldn't you know it? They were on the dinner menu . Again, I get that there are some people who eat the stuff but in the spectrum of foods that could be made seems like the dishes are not exactly mainstream nor such a delicacy to make passengers happy to see them.
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There are plenty of food choices on every MDR and specialty restaurants menu. Absolutely no one was forcing you to order liver and onions, steak and kidney pie or sweetbreads. There is no need to expand your gastronomic horizon but you could expand your cultural horizon especially after making repeated comments that food is subjective.

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[quote name='rbt001']
Sometime last year I could have sworn I saw Jan Schwartz and a few in suits huddled together and taking copious notes at my local Golden Corral. And ... hmmm... others have complained on here too. Go figure!.[/quote]

Everyone is so negative in this thread ... and you're saying we might be able to look forward to improvements!
Excellent!

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[quote name='capriccio']There are plenty of food choices on every MDR and specialty restaurants menu. Absolutely no one was forcing you to order liver and onions, steak and kidney pie or sweetbreads. There is no need to expand your gastronomic horizon but you could expand your cultural horizon especially after making repeated comments that food is subjective.[/quote]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=#0000ff]I eat all three of the offal dishes mentioned, through choice, and salute Princess for offering them. If you are going to kill an animal to eat the deed is done and you may as well cook all of it as most if not all of it is delicious if cooked properly. Variety is the spice of life and in a buffet it's essential to please as many as possible. I only eat breakfasts in the Princess buffet and my one complaint is that the food is luke warm by the time I sit to eat (including Regal Princess) and I don't waste time in the buffet line-I know what I want and get it fast without browsing endlessly. I eat lunch in the superior Celebrity S Class buffet as they do great Indian food, served on piping hot plates and have great crispy French fries, pork chops and minute steaks. The flavors in the Princess buffet are fine indeed, just the temperature is lacking somewhat for me. The MDR breakfasts are faultless and something I love-I get up really early and have two breakfasts some days.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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[quote name='pablo222']Everyone is so negative in this thread ... and you're saying we might be able to look forward to improvements!
Excellent![/quote]

No, Pablo222, that is NOT at all what my comments are indicating.

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[quote name='nellydean']I didn't say it wasn't clean. It was. And, yes, I am quite sure I was on the Royal Princess, thank you very much. Besides, whatever you experienced in the past had no bearing on my experience last month.

The consistently poor food was mainly a problem of the buffet, but we also had it in the dining room. In the buffet, certainly at breakfast, none of the heating plates ever appeared to be switched on, or on enough, to keep the food anything but luke warm, the items were often not replenished, and no offer to make fresh ones, instead, you were sent to another part of the buffet, which was a long walk in a crowded room and, if you were lucky to find what you wanted, they were also cool or cold, and so was the rest of your 'hot' breakfast by the time you got back to your seat.

Woe betide if you started eating in the bistro (often the only place to sit), because they would close off that section, again necessitating a trek to the other end of the buffet, and the same problems.
Aside from breakfast items, the variety of the buffet food, in general, was poor, poorly cooked, poorly presented and, most important, not very tasty. Only one rice dish, always the same, and looking like brown slop, and you were lucky to find fish, which was always tiny and mushy.
If it had been just one or two off days, I would have said we were unlucky, but every day/lunch/evening we were in there? And a LOT of passengers we spoke to said the same, so it wasn't just us being picky.

We are Platinum Princess and have sailed with a lot of other cruise lines as well, and have generally always found the food good but, on this cruise, it was very under par - apart from Alfredo's Pizzeria, which was fantastic, and service outstanding. And, therein lies the answer, I believe. Alfredo's was often under patronised (maybe because it's so nice to look at passengers assume it's a paid-for restaurant) and the ratio of staff to guests was much higher than in either the buffet or dining room. I can remember when there was a wait staff member eager to serve/help you every which way you looked, those days have obviously gone, but the price on the Royal was there for all to see. Very disappointing.

I hope they get their act together for their American stint, if so, my complaints, and that of others, will have served a purpose. It's just a pity our cruise was spoilt somewhat by the poor dining experience.[/quote]

We did a TA on the Royal last year, I am not a fan of the royal class ships, for starters. Refer Grand class design. The larger buffet with lots of options is not what I am looking for, in fact while on the Royal we we would look for what we like to eat vs what all they had. If they did have what we wanted we would ask for it, nothing fancy, i.e., tuna sandwich i.e., for lunch fresh made. Never had a problem getting what we like. Breakfast, we do room service on all lines. We did the fish and chips at the Crown Grill with offered, we go early get table, pay for beer when chips arrive take the plate to go, they don't want to do it but we do (we like to enjoy our meal in a less crowded area) ... that was good. We went to the Crown Grill because we like the menu items. We also order from Room Service, some days late afternoon, i.e., hamburger, salad for a light dinner. We treat the ships like a super market... we look for what like and go for it... On these large ships there are lots of options. Still prefer Grand class. This approach works well on the Grand class too

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[quote name='nellydean']I didn't say it wasn't clean. It was. And, yes, I am quite sure I was on the Royal Princess, thank you very much. Besides, whatever you experienced in the past had no bearing on my experience last month.

The consistently poor food was mainly a problem of the buffet, but we also had it in the dining room. In the buffet, certainly at breakfast, none of the heating plates ever appeared to be switched on, or on enough, to keep the food anything but luke warm, the items were often not replenished, and no offer to make fresh ones, instead, you were sent to another part of the buffet, which was a long walk in a crowded room and, if you were lucky to find what you wanted, they were also cool or cold, and so was the rest of your 'hot' breakfast by the time you got back to your seat.

Woe betide if you started eating in the bistro (often the only place to sit), because they would close off that section, again necessitating a trek to the other end of the buffet, and the same problems.
Aside from breakfast items, the variety of the buffet food, in general, was poor, poorly cooked, poorly presented and, most important, not very tasty. Only one rice dish, always the same, and looking like brown slop, and you were lucky to find fish, which was always tiny and mushy.
If it had been just one or two off days, I would have said we were unlucky, but every day/lunch/evening we were in there? And a LOT of passengers we spoke to said the same, so it wasn't just us being picky.

We are Platinum Princess and have sailed with a lot of other cruise lines as well, and have generally always found the food good but, on this cruise, it was very under par - apart from Alfredo's Pizzeria, which was fantastic, and service outstanding. And, therein lies the answer, I believe. Alfredo's was often under patronised (maybe because it's so nice to look at passengers assume it's a paid-for restaurant) and the ratio of staff to guests was much higher than in either the buffet or dining room. I can remember when there was a wait staff member eager to serve/help you every which way you looked, those days have obviously gone, but the price on the Royal was there for all to see. Very disappointing.

I hope they get their act together for their American stint, if so, my complaints, and that of others, will have served a purpose. It's just a pity our cruise was spoilt somewhat by the poor dining experience.[/quote]

[LEFT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]I've always wondered in what context people use the phrase, "we weren't the only ones disappointed" or in your case, "A LOT of passengers we spoke to". I've thankfully never been on a cruise where someone sitting next to me struck up conversation about the food quality. How does the topic even come up? My guess? You were grousing and someone politely agreed to get you to stop talking. If someone complained to me about the food, I'd specifically say it was wonderful even if it tasted like dog doo doo, because I'm not going to let your negativity ruin my vacation! Complain to whoever went on the cruise with you, not a stranger next to you. ;p[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]

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I feel like I have never had a bad meal on Princess. Maybe I am just good at choosing AND I choose more than one so I always have a fall back.

I will say however, that I am not impressed by their desserts.. I'm always forced into getting the ice cream. I've sailed Carnival twice and I absolutely love their chocolate molten cake ..I wish Princess would adopt that recipe since they are the same company. I would have zero complaits if they did that! :)

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[LEFT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]I've always wondered in what context people use the phrase, "we weren't the only ones disappointed" or in your case, "A LOT of passengers we spoke to". I've thankfully never been on a cruise where someone sitting next to me struck up conversation about the food quality. How does the topic even come up? My guess? You were grousing and someone politely agreed to get you to stop talking. If someone complained to me about the food, I'd specifically say it was wonderful even if it tasted like dog doo doo, because I'm not going to let your negativity ruin my vacation! Complain to whoever went on the cruise with you, not a stranger next to you. ;p[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]
[/quote]
Agree. I work with the complainers and I always respond with a positive such as I really like what I have. They have learned to complain somewhere else. Alot of others will just complain as well or nod rather than risk a confrontation.


I have been on a cruise where one couple at our table owned a restaurant and of course nothing in the MDR (which is really a banquet room) was right. Should have changed tables, lesson learned.

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[quote name='puggleperson']I wish Princess would adopt that recipe since they are the same company. I would have zero complaits if they did that! :)[/quote]

No, they're not the same company, Princess Cruise Line and Canival Cruise Line are two separate cormpanies. However, both of those companies are owned by the same corporation, Carnival Corporation. Big difference.

Tom

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[quote name='puggleperson']I feel like I have never had a bad meal on Princess. Maybe I am just good at choosing AND I choose more than one so I always have a fall back.

I will say however, that I am not impressed by their desserts.. I'm always forced into getting the ice cream. I've sailed Carnival twice and I absolutely love their chocolate molten cake ..I wish Princess would adopt that recipe since they are the same company. I would have zero complaits if they did that! :)[/quote]

I'm with you...I have never had a bad meal as well. Yes, sometimes in the buffet (but I usually only eat breakfast there) the food is not as hot as I like. Of course, my wife will tell you I like my food very hot. No complaints though as a whole. Good food, good atmosphere, always good company...that's why we cruise!! Everything in life is about attitude...good or bad...it's up to each individual. Some people, I guess, prefer to live with a bad attitude and complain about first world problems. May all of you enjoy your next cruise!!! Cheers!!

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[quote name='SwimCarrie']
[LEFT][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]I've always wondered in what context people use the phrase, "we weren't the only ones disappointed" or in your case, "A LOT of passengers we spoke to". I've thankfully never been on a cruise where someone sitting next to me struck up conversation about the food quality. How does the topic even come up? My guess? You were grousing and someone politely agreed to get you to stop talking. If someone complained to me about the food, I'd specifically say it was wonderful even if it tasted like dog doo doo, because I'm not going to let your negativity ruin my vacation! Complain to whoever went on the cruise with you, not a stranger next to you. ;p[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]
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You are right, the one time we had a conversation about food on a ship, was once when we were on a Crystal ship... given the price we paid for cruise we were not that impressed, we ran into a man on deck one night after dinner he was retired butcher from Texas, we had all ordered steak for dinner I recall, the butcher said he never saw a steaks like what served. It was funny because we did not like the steak either. Needless to say, that was our last Crystal cruise... we felt it was over priced for the value for our dollar. By contrast we have 26 cruises so obviously Princess has met our expectations more often than not. Now days we do pay extra to go to the Crown Grill and feel it is worth it.

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Last Regal Princess cruise the food was so bad there were 6 people who actually lost weight during the trans-Atlantic. The other 3,484 passengers gained an average of 12 pounds. Horrible experience!

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[quote name='Pierlesscruisers']No, they're not the same company, Princess Cruise Line and Canival Cruise Line are two separate cormpanies.[COLOR=#ff0000] However, both of those companies are owned by the same corporation, Carnival Corporation. Big difference.[/COLOR]

Tom[/quote]

NOT so big....

It's called the "Carnivalization of Princess" and other brands owned by Carnival Corp.

While each brand is unique, their similarities grow with time as centralized purchasing at Carnival Corp enjoys discounts and rebating associated with volume buying across the lines.

Will we see the elimination of the expensive wheels of Parmesan Cheese shipped in from Italy for Princess eventually be replace by that Kraft brand that shakes out of a green foil container? I'm sure it's on the list, though with less priority right now.

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[quote name='Globehoppers']Last Regal Princess cruise the food was so bad there were 6 people who actually lost weight during the trans-Atlantic. The other 3,484 passengers gained an average of 12 pounds. Horrible experience![/quote]
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[quote name='rbt001']NOT so big....

It's called the "Carnivalization of Princess" and other brands owned by Carnival Corp.

While each brand is unique, their similarities grow with time as centralized purchasing at Carnival Corp enjoys discounts and rebating associated with volume buying across the lines.

Will we see the elimination of the expensive wheels of Parmesan Cheese shipped in from Italy for Princess eventually be replace by that Kraft brand that shakes out of a green foil container? I'm sure it's on the list, though with less priority right now.[/quote]

I was referring to there being a big difference between saying that Princess and Carnival [U]being[/U] the same company and [U]being owned[/U] by the same company not that the two companies were the same.


Tom

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[quote name='rbt001']NOT so big....

It's called the "Carnivalization of Princess" and other brands owned by Carnival Corp.

While each brand is unique, their similarities grow with time as centralized purchasing at Carnival Corp enjoys discounts and rebating associated with volume buying across the lines.

[COLOR=#ff0000]Will we see the elimination of the expensive wheels of Parmesan Cheese shipped in from Italy for Princess eventually be replace by that Kraft brand that shakes out of a green foil container? I'm sure it's on the list, though with less priority right now[/COLOR].[/quote]

I respectfully disagree. One reason that Carnival Corp. DOES own so many brands is so that it can be a dominating force across the industry, not just in one niche. If they make all of the brands identical, there goes that idea.

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[quote name='USCcruisecrazy']I'm with you...I have never had a bad meal as well. Yes, sometimes in the buffet (but I usually only eat breakfast there) the food is not as hot as I like. Of course, my wife will tell you I like my food very hot. No complaints though as a whole. Good food, good atmosphere, always good company...that's why we cruise!! Everything in life is about attitude...good or bad...it's up to each individual. Some people, I guess, prefer to live with a bad attitude and complain about first world problems. May all of you enjoy your next cruise!!! Cheers!![/QUOTE]



We have only gone on one Princess cruise so far ( next one Feb 2019) and we liked all the food. When I think deserts on Princess I think crème brûlée.... yum!!!


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[quote name='jwattle']I respectfully disagree. One reason that Carnival Corp. DOES own so many brands is so that it can be a dominating force across the industry, not just in one niche. If they make all of the brands identical, there goes that idea.[/quote] B[I]azinga ![/I]

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[quote name='Pierlesscruisers']I was referring to there being a big difference between saying that Princess and Carnival [U]being[/U] the same company and [U]being owned[/U] by the same company not that the two companies were the same.


Tom[/quote]

And I'm saying that it's not much of a big difference; it's splitting hairs and semantics. Two brands owned by the same corporation or company.

True they have different tax id's and corporate filings, yet at the end of the day, it's one corporation that's charting the destiny of the corporation's two brands along with several other brands. Jan is on a leash that grows shorter by the year.

They are gradually becoming the same.

Take the Princess beverage package offering. It's a clone of the Cheers program on Carnival.

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[quote name='jwattle']I respectfully disagree. One reason that Carnival Corp. DOES own so many brands is so that it can be a dominating force across the industry, not just in one niche. If they make all of the brands identical, there goes that idea.[/quote]

Agreed that they will never become identical, however the differentiation of brands will diminish.

Off the top of my head, I'd predict that while they find merit to retain individual brand names for recognition, ALL BRANDS, will fall into one of three service categories: High End, Moderate, or Budget (and of course described with more eloquent words to the same effect.)

So the cheese wheel goes to Cunard and Seabourn, Princess & HAL get a lesser aged cheese, and Carnival gets the cheese shaker in green foil.

[And just wait for the ONE cross brand loyalty program based upon revenue that wipes out all the current perks and benefits!]

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[quote name='USCcruisecrazy']I'm with you...I have never had a bad meal as well. Yes, sometimes in the buffet (but I usually only eat breakfast there) the food is not as hot as I like. Of course, my wife will tell you I like my food very hot. No complaints though as a whole. Good food, good atmosphere, always good company...that's why we cruise!! Everything in life is about attitude...good or bad...it's up to each individual. Some people, I guess, prefer to live with a bad attitude and complain about first world problems. May all of you enjoy your next cruise!!! Cheers!![/QUOTE]



Funny, that was my thought.
I cruise because I enjoy meeting people from everywhere, most of whom are friendly and very interesting.
I cruise because when we start sliding away from the wharf, all my stress is left in a pile. If I look, I can see it sitting there waiting for my return, so I don’t look.
I cruise because I know once we’re settled in, my life is my own to do what I want with it. I don’t have to clean bathrooms, make beds, vacuum, dust, not a darn thing
I read a lot and watch the ocean. DH goes to everything available which gives him something to talk about at meals. Total freedom!
I cruise because mealtime on a ship is a time for chatting and relaxing. The food isn’t as important as the fact that I don’t have to grocery shop, put groceries away, which I hate, plan meals, cook and serve them, and clean the kitchen afterward.
I have been on over 50 cruises, and only one was what we call “interesting”
because it was hilarious but we got what we paid for which wasn’t much.
Mirage was a very very short lived cruise line. But bad cruise? Nope, a thousand times no.



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[quote name='jagsfan']Funny, that was my thought.
I cruise because I enjoy meeting people from everywhere, most of whom are friendly and very interesting.
I cruise because when we start sliding away from the wharf, all my stress is left in a pile. If I look, I can see it sitting there waiting for my return, so I don’t look.
I cruise because I know once we’re settled in, my life is my own to do what I want with it. I don’t have to clean bathrooms, make beds, vacuum, dust, not a darn thing
I read a lot and watch the ocean. DH goes to everything available which gives him something to talk about at meals. Total freedom!
I cruise because mealtime on a ship is a time for chatting and relaxing. The food isn’t as important as the fact that I don’t have to grocery shop, put groceries away, which I hate, plan meals, cook and serve them, and clean the kitchen afterward.
I have been on over 50 cruises, and only one was what we call “interesting”
because it was hilarious but we got what we paid for which wasn’t much.
Mirage was a very very short lived cruise line. But bad cruise? Nope, a thousand times no.



Sent fr[IMG]https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/mascot-illustration-smiley-tipping-his-260nw-266780540.jpg[/IMG]om my iPhone using Forums[/quote] spoken like a well traveled and enthusiastic cruiser.

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[quote name='c-boy']spoken like a well traveled and enthusiastic cruiser.[/QUOTE]



I’m looking forward to a 27 day in April. We’ll see how enthusiastic I am when it’s over![emoji2] or [emoji30]


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[quote name='rbt001']And I'm saying that it's not much of a big difference; it's splitting hairs and semantics. Two brands owned by the same corporation or company.

True they have different tax id's and corporate filings, yet at the end of the day, it's one corporation that's charting the destiny of the corporation's two brands along with several other brands. Jan is on a leash that grows shorter by the year.

They are gradually becoming the same.

Take the Princess beverage package offering. It's a clone of the Cheers program on Carnival.[/quote]

Well, perhaps you just have a much better sense of how large corporations control their owned companies, which you must have since you apparently know that Jan is on a leash that grows shorter every year. I certainly don't have any depth of knowledge about the corporate world as my time in the work force was in the military and not in the corporate world, thank goodness. So, I'll bow to your better info on the subject.


Tom

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[quote name='Globehoppers']Last Regal Princess cruise the food was so bad there were 6 people who actually lost weight during the trans-Atlantic. The other 3,484 passengers gained an average of 12 pounds. Horrible experience![/quote]
It must be quite a job keeping track of all those people's weight. ;)

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[quote name='Pierlesscruisers']Well, perhaps you just have a much better sense of how large corporations control their owned companies, which you must have since you apparently know that Jan is on a leash that grows shorter every year. I certainly don't have any depth of knowledge about the corporate world as my time in the work force was in the military and not in the corporate world, thank goodness. So, I'll bow to your better info on the subject.


Tom[/quote]
Thank goodness? No...

Thank YOU for your service.

Now back to the discussion of food decline at Princess.

There's still some outstanding pasta dishes featured for sea day lunches... and so many of them in rotation... that I hope they never eliminate them.

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[quote name='rbt001']Thank goodness? No...

Thank YOU for your service.

Now back to the discussion of food decline at Princess.

There's still some outstanding pasta dishes featured for sea day lunches... and so many of them in rotation... that I hope they never eliminate them.[/quote]

Thank you very much for both my wife and I (we're both retired military) we both appreciate your kind words.


As to the discussion of food., I still don't believe that the food on Princess is bad. Whether that is because I've been incredibly lucky in what I've eaten over the few years I've been cruising or whether I just have very simple tastes and am easily pleased, I have no earthly idea, although I suspect those two factors weigh into it quite a bit. I'm certainly no gourmet that is one thing for certain. It does seem to me, however, that if someone thought that the food on the PCL ships was really bad, that they would cruise on other lines. It would also make sense to me that if you, or I, or anybody really thought that a meal was really bad (or really good for that matter!) that they would politely tell their waiter or the maitre 'd of someone about it as they left the dining facility. That's the only way to get anything changed. Now, someone might say that telling someone won't change anything, that may be true, but not telling anyone sure as heck won't change anything! The quicker you tell someone, the better the chance of making a difference, so I would say that a problem should be reported before you leave the facility and not waiting till the end-of-cruise survey!

Dang, sorry 'bout this, I had no intention of writing a dissertation here! :( Got to go pack now for our cruise that starts tomorrow!

Again, thanks for the kind words.

Tom

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[quote name='john_galt']The MDR food (and the experience in general) has changed over the last 30 years. I think it has to do with the increased passenger capacity of the new ships. I simply avoid the MDR nowadays. I can always find something on the menu that works for me and simply have it delivered to the room. I've had good luck with Ultimate Balcony Dining and usually do UBD every other evening.[/quote]

Methinks its price competition (like what happened to legroom on airlines).

For an apples-to-apples comparison with, well, 20 years ago, try Club Class.

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[quote name='Cruisintimer']Tom, thank you for your service from one military veteran family to another.[/quote]

And thanks to you and yours, Cruisintimer!

Tom

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