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Aboard Equinox and just went to the Emergency Drill.... It was most entertaining and different. It was a movie, a detective story which incorporated all of the important safety information. I have never been so entertained during one of these drills. Very informative and a lot of fun!!

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That's been shown for a couple years now. On board Reflection last November/December our muster station was the MDR. Half the people seated at tables had their backs to the screen, and half couldn't see it because the sun glare on the screen from the windows washed out the picture. I don't enjoy the muster drills on cruises, but they are supposed to impart important information in case of emergency. I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla. You found it entertaining and delightful and I thought the important information was lost in the "cutesy."

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Thant's been shown for a couple years now. On board Reflection last November/December our muster station was the MDR. Half the people seated at tables had their backs to the screen, and half couldn't see it because the sun glare on the screen from the windows washed out the picture. I don't enjoy the muster drills on cruises, but they are supposed to impart important information in case of emergency. I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla. You found it entertaining and delightful and I thought the important information was lost in the "cutesy."

 

I'm with you, it was cute for about 20 seconds, then got old very fast.

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No one ever paid any attention at the old drills. At least this was a refreshing change. They highlighted the important parts. They must only show it on the Solstice Class ships as we have never seen it before. To each his own opinion.....

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You found it entertaining and delightful and I thought the important information was lost in the "cutesy."

 

I agree completely, I just knew to come back to that area in the case of an emergency. What happens next was completely lost on me.

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SOME find it fAr from cute. The Slavik villian? The heroine throws a woman overboard and presumably leaves her there? It’s awful

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I found it to be puerile and patronising, and the important safety information was lost in an effort to entertain. Plus half the room could hardly see the screen

 

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We saw for the first time a few weeks ago on the Equinox and our reaction was that first time cruisers we not getting the essential information that should know in case of an additional emergency.

 

This was our 4th X cruise the year, but the first time to see this video. On the plus side there were more screens to see the video and for the most part people weren’t talking throughout the drill.

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I think it downplays the information people really need....its cute until something happens where people have to actually do something..and then its not cute.

 

There are real reasons for the safety drills....they are to give information, not to amuse.

 

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I have now seen it on three cruises. My take away is that if you didn’t know what the purpose of the safety drill is before seeing that movie, you wouldn’t know any more after. I have been going to Muster drills since 1994 and find this useless. I comment on this on every end of cruise survey.

 

I just got off a RCCL cruise. Normal old fashioned muster drill. Lasted about 15 minutes. It was very clear what you should and shouldn’t do, that your children would be brought to your muster station, etc. No pointless video and a crew member was going around politely telling chatting passengers to please be quiet and to pay attention.

 

I do think the wash your hands cartoon is clever and effective.

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Not sure showing up and standing there for the duration of the 'head count' on outside decks next to boats provided any transferred safety education. Nor did putting on the orange box life vests IMHO.

 

I have been in a chaotic situation and it was that... chaotic with some great people stepping up as in most emergencies helping those confuse and disoriented.

 

We can only hope that they did do some testing to see if the key lessons were learned/transferrred. Only time will tell and I hope not for a long, long time.

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On Equinox last May we had our muster drill in the MDR. Chairs were all turned to face the screen and we had the movie. May have been somewhat hokey but the movie/crew information contained, in my opinion, the important points such as the emergency signal is 7 short blasts followed by 1 long, where your life jackets are and how to work them, report to where you are now as your muster station, etc. were pretty clear. Much preferred to our prior experiences on Summit where it was standing room only and many people talked very loudly throughout the entire thing despite repeated requests from crew and fellow passengers to please stop talking. Literally got no information from those and we were new cruisers at the time and could have used the info!

Just out of curiosity, did you have the drink package?
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Please lets go back to the old video. This new video is worst and the old one. Dont get me wrong I think the video is very important. Just not my type of humor. I want to say I have seen it 3 times now. The video does not get any better with time.

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Aboard Equinox and just went to the Emergency Drill.... It was most entertaining and different. It was a movie, a detective story which incorporated all of the important safety information. I have never been so entertained during one of these drills. Very informative and a lot of fun!!

Good idea ,conventional muster drills are quite boring.

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We found it awful on many levels...,sophmoric and insulting!

Also bad was the wash your hands jingle...at pre school level!

X should give out the necessary and crucial safety info...and skip the cutes! ( including le petit chef)

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Aboard Equinox and just went to the Emergency Drill.... It was most entertaining and different. It was a movie, a detective story which incorporated all of the important safety information. I have never been so entertained during one of these drills. Very informative and a lot of fun!!

 

I could use for a bit more lighthearted drilling...though, assuredly, it is not intended to entertain. What I found most annoying the last time I went through one of these (not with X) is how people simply ignore the rules - being told to keep off cell phones, not talking among each other, etc. Some people just do whatever they want. A microcosm of our society I suppose. It really got to our muster station attendant, who was getting truly annoyed with a few people. The guy was TOUGH..like a drill sergeant. Glad when it was over. Then there are always those few who are in no hurry to get there...and so holds up a few hundred other people.

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Good idea ,conventional muster drills are quite boring.

 

I can see both sides of this....I mean....it's a DRILL...intended to convey the necessary information. The entertainment starts once the cruise gets underway. I'll bet 90% of the people at any drill are not truly paying much attention, being of the mind that 'nothing bad will happen'. That being said, I agree that it can indeed get "boring", long, and hot. I do think it's probably best to have everyone report out on the deck at a muster station rather than in a large inside venue. Again, to be honest, if that emergency horn ever DOES sound during a cruise, it'll be the crew's job to try and prevent at least some measure of mass hysteria. Probably the same sort of attentiveness exists during most airline pre-flight safety presentations by the attendants - though I had one guy who was absolutely hysterical - it got your attention probably more than the status quo, deadpan approach. So....who knows...maybe the more entertaining video idea is not that bad...a bit of song and dance routine by the muster station people might do well also.

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Out of interest, does it extend the length of the muster drill by a second or more cw the old drill? if so, bad idea. I’m on holiday I don’t want to be sitting watching corporate videos for any longer than I have to.

 

I like my safety information without Padding. It doesn’t have to be sexy, fun, or thrilling - just informative and memorable & memorable in the right way - I.e I know what I’m supposed to do rather than the audience found it entertaining.

 

I’m sure the next iteration will include something about speciality dining, future cruises and tanzanite.

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I can see both sides of this....I mean....it's a DRILL...intended to convey the necessary information. The entertainment starts once the cruise gets underway. I'll bet 90% of the people at any drill are not truly paying much attention, being of the mind that 'nothing bad will happen'. That being said, I agree that it can indeed get "boring", long, and hot. I do think it's probably best to have everyone report out on the deck at a muster station rather than in a large inside venue. Again, to be honest, if that emergency horn ever DOES sound during a cruise, it'll be the crew's job to try and prevent at least some measure of mass hysteria. Probably the same sort of attentiveness exists during most airline pre-flight safety presentations by the attendants - though I had one guy who was absolutely hysterical - it got your attention probably more than the status quo, deadpan approach. So....who knows...maybe the more entertaining video idea is not that bad...a bit of song and dance routine by the muster station people might do well also.

 

On a lot of modern ships, all of the passengers won’t all fit on the deck at the same time. In a real evacuation, they would have to be brought out in groups. And mostly they want to get the idea across that we need to follow directions from the crew in an emergency, not blindly go to the outdoor lifeboat station, intent on boarding a lifeboat when that may not be the most appropriate action.

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I think it downplays the information people really need....its cute until something happens where people have to actually do something..and then its not cute.

 

There are real reasons for the safety drills....they are to give information, not to amuse.

 

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I agree....especially for 1st time cruisers.....while the drills are not fun, they aren't supposed to be and while one hopes to NEVER need the info provided it is important to know WHAT to do if you need it...this downplayed the importance of the information, makes it all seem like fun....trivializing the importance of the information being provided.

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I agree....especially for 1st time cruisers.....while the drills are not fun, they aren't supposed to be and while one hopes to NEVER need the info provided it is important to know WHAT to do if you need it...this downplayed the importance of the information, makes it all seem like fun....trivializing the importance of the information being provided.

 

 

I agree 100%. I much prefer the "Dragnet" approach. "Just the facts ma'am "

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Note: on airplanes since years they try to make safety video enjoyable (and watched). It is also recommended by IATA. They noticed that few people take attention, but it is also a requirement that they cannot make mandatory to watch such video. I think there is much more experience and studies on aviation. Cruise lines are just try to finally keep the pace. [Remember that until Costa Concordia, it was just mandatory to have the drill on the first days, not just before sailing].

 

 

But also in aviation, there are many awful video. I never see this, but it is so bad, I expect they will change, until they find a good compromise.

 

 

About the place of meeting points: this is often a problem, I think nobody found a good planing: they should be near the boats and safety equipment, fire go up, and it is stupid to run up to the meeting point to then go down to the lifeboats. But so, all ships should be in one, two or three bridges. So ... always bad place, but for the lucky one on theater. [but I hope that in 10 years, someone will find a genial idea, and so all cruise lines will copy and improve safety drill, we had few improvement on last 40 years]

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One slight issue with safety drills for both planes and ships is that following safety drills in an emergency is not always in an individual's best interest.

 

I recall the Manchester aircrash in 1986 and Zeebrugge ferry disaster in 1987 when investigators concluded that several passengers had taken survival into there own hands (climbing of seats, racing up stairs instead of queuing and climbing in an orderly fashion and that in these particular cases it had dramatically increased their chances of survival. In the case of Costa Concordia as the ship listed many of the lifeboats were in operable - waiting at your muster point for lifeboats on one side of the ship was a waste of time.

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Aboard Equinox and just went to the Emergency Drill.... It was most entertaining and different. It was a movie, a detective story which incorporated all of the important safety information. I have never been so entertained during one of these drills. Very informative and a lot of fun!!

 

I disagree because many people do not pay attention, others are sleeping. etc. funny it's not equal to safety

 

In the video you were never shown how to put on your life jacket, how to use the whistle, etc.

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Not sure, no matter how the muster drill is handled, that there would be a consensus on this forum. Old way got complaints, this way seems strangely to offend (especially those born w/ an extremely delicate nature.) May be the only consensus here may be that no one likes a muster drill? It's the start of everyone's vaca and people are much more interested in getting that first Pina colada (speaking only for myself here...) But boring as it is in all forms, Muster is necessary and a legal requirement and it seems nice that X is trying something new.

 

The movie does contains all info anyone needs to stay as safe as possible in an emergency. If some choose not to pay attention then they need to take responsibility for that oversight. Taking personal responsibility should be an expectation of adulthood. If you are old enough to travel independently you ought to be capable of understanding that things can & do go wrong. X provides ample emergency info, it's not on them if passengers blow off the muster drill or worse, ignore it because it it is not delivered in a form that some individuals approve. I mean, how much time does the whole process take, 30, maybe 45 minuets out of many glorious days of vaca? So what if the movie is cheesy, & seriously, there's more explicit violence in a road runner cartoon... Plus, in addition to the movie, if there are still questions or ANY confusion an abundance of X crew are always on hand to help.

 

Muster topic aside, what bravery to insult another person on a forum...! How nice it is to sit in your armchair and sling unnecessary insults at another (while remaining anonymous) because they had the audacity to share a little happiness. This was a positive post - something that seems more and more rare on this forum, why feel the need to poo on that? Whoever you are, I feel sorry for you, you must be very unhappy to be so very unkind to a total stranger.

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I disagree because many people do not pay attention, others are sleeping. etc. funny it's not equal to safety

 

In the video you were never shown how to put on your life jacket, how to use the whistle, etc.

 

You are correct. However they show do you how to put on the life jacket, how to use the whistle, etc, right before the video,

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Not sure, no matter how the muster drill is handled, that there would be a consensus on this forum. Old way got complaints, this way seems strangely to offend (especially those born w/ an extremely delicate nature.) May be the only consensus here may be that no one likes a muster drill? It's the start of everyone's vaca and people are much more interested in getting that first Pina colada (speaking only for myself here...) But boring as it is in all forms, Muster is necessary and a legal requirement and it seems nice that X is trying something new.

 

The movie does contains all info anyone needs to stay as safe as possible in an emergency. If some choose not to pay attention then they need to take responsibility for that oversight. Taking personal responsibility should be an expectation of adulthood. If you are old enough to travel independently you ought to be capable of understanding that things can & do go wrong. X provides ample emergency info, it's not on them if passengers blow off the muster drill or worse, ignore it because it it is not delivered in a form that some individuals approve. I mean, how much time does the whole process take, 30, maybe 45 minuets out of many glorious days of vaca? So what if the movie is cheesy, & seriously, there's more explicit violence in a road runner cartoon... Plus, in addition to the movie, if there are still questions or ANY confusion an abundance of X crew are always on hand to help.

 

Muster topic aside, what bravery to insult another person on a forum...! How nice it is to sit in your armchair and sling unnecessary insults at another (while remaining anonymous) because they had the audacity to share a little happiness. This was a positive post - something that seems more and more rare on this forum, why feel the need to poo on that? Whoever you are, I feel sorry for you, you must be very unhappy to be so very unkind to a total stranger.

 

Very well said !

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You are correct. However they show do you how to put on the life jacket, how to use the whistle, etc, right before the video,

 

You was lucky to see how to put the life jacket and how to use the whistle, major times the XYZ area for the drill is so crowded that they don't do that like in the old times, in my last 2 cruises Oasis and Eclipse only the video was displayed, there were more Passengers in the X Lounge for the SD than the capacity permitted. See what happens in 21 days onboard the Summit.

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My point to the OP was that I felt that the movie couldn't be seen on my last cruise on Reflection at my muster station in the MDR since many passengers were seated on chairs that were facing away from the screen, (and few bothered to turn them around) and the light coming through the windows washed out the screen and made it impossible to see. I am always one of the few that pays attention, both on planes and ships to safety drills. I always check escape routes when in a hotel, plane, ship, theater. Knowing these things can save lives in case of an emergency, which of course we all hope will never happen. I do take that information seriously. I don't put down anyone who finds that movie enjoyable, but my point is that safety information is serious. I don't like it sugar-coated. I have plenty of time to enjoy myself on vacation. An hour (absolute maximum time I've ever seen taken for muster drill) won't hamper my good time and may save lives. I personally found that the "Bondesque" type movie made a mockery of the message in an effort to get attention of passengers and totally missed the mark of delivering an important safety message. IMHO making of joke of important safety information sends the message that safety is entertainment.

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My point to the OP was that I felt that the movie couldn't be seen on my last cruise on Reflection at my muster station in the MDR since many passengers were seated on chairs that were facing away from the screen, (and few bothered to turn them around) and the light coming through the windows washed out the screen and made it impossible to see. I am always one of the few that pays attention, both on planes and ships to safety drills. I always check escape routes when in a hotel, plane, ship, theater. Knowing these things can save lives in case of an emergency, which of course we all hope will never happen. I do take that information seriously. I don't put down anyone who finds that movie enjoyable, but my point is that safety information is serious. I don't like it sugar-coated. I have plenty of time to enjoy myself on vacation. An hour (absolute maximum time I've ever seen taken for muster drill) won't hamper my good time and may save lives. I personally found that the "Bondesque" type movie made a mockery of the message in an effort to get attention of passengers and totally missed the mark of delivering an important safety message. IMHO making of joke of important safety information sends the message that safety is entertainment.

 

Absolutely correct

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IMHO making of joke of important safety information sends the message that safety is entertainment.

 

This seems reasonable, but after a lot of tests on aviation, it seems that it need to be entertainment, or people will not check it. This is very unfortunate, but we cannot be egoistic (I tend to be like you: I check carefully safety things). A bad response of other can make us in danger. For our safety we need that other people (who tend to be bored quickly) will watch and remember most of the things. And we should not forget that our ships are full of international guest: so images can help more than English explanations (not all people are familiar with sea speak).

 

 

On aviation, on recent "problems", we saw a lot of errors (and I confess, I maybe I would have done same errors), so safety drill are not super effective. On the other hand, crew is seriously trained, and they should help us.

 

Aviation: do you know that the mask should be put on nose and mouth? So you know that you should pull the mask? By pulling, the oxygen is switch on. (both problems on SW, and both live demonstration and safety video were not so clear on such topic). When you exit from emergency exit, do you know that you should not take your belonging? (it is not just because it could slow down evacuation, but on jumping, you increase change to break arms or legs, and literally "roll on the floor" harming other peoples.

 

On ships: it was very strange to learn that I should enter in a lifeboat 15 meter above sea level (the lifeboat will be lowered once full). [And every few years there is some crew members that lose their life on such drill]. Behaviour in case of fire is not so well explained, nor what to do if you fall in water (and in case of emergency a lot of people fell in water). Safety video, IMHO, could explain more about such problems.

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I'm surprised in this day and age with free wifi and on line-interactive training etc that they can't do an interactive presentation on your cabin TV or on your ipad (on line tuition for your specific cruise with the option to attend a muster presentation). Anyone who completes the online muster drill before say 1 hour before the normal muster drill isn't required to attend the regular muster drill. - would be easy to check who had done the muster drill in their cabin, could put a few questions in there to emphasise key points..... oh just realised Celebrity & IT - forget I mentioned it.

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If I'm not mistaken, the safety information is also available on the TV in your cabin. If you weren't able to see the film or missed portions because of the noise level, you can replay it there. I think many repeat cruisers are like frequent flyers... they've seen the material so many times they know it by heart. We just need to remember that there are also many first time cruisers... it doesn't hurt to give them the courtesy of quiet during muster so they can become comfortable enough to ignore it on future cruises too :)

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Not sure, no matter how the muster drill is handled, that there would be a consensus on this forum. Old way got complaints, this way seems strangely to offend (especially those born w/ an extremely delicate nature.) May be the only consensus here may be that no one likes a muster drill? It's the start of everyone's vaca and people are much more interested in getting that first Pina colada (speaking only for myself here...) But boring as it is in all forms, Muster is necessary and a legal requirement and it seems nice that X is trying something new.

 

The movie does contains all info anyone needs to stay as safe as possible in an emergency. If some choose not to pay attention then they need to take responsibility for that oversight. Taking personal responsibility should be an expectation of adulthood. If you are old enough to travel independently you ought to be capable of understanding that things can & do go wrong. X provides ample emergency info, it's not on them if passengers blow off the muster drill or worse, ignore it because it it is not delivered in a form that some individuals approve. I mean, how much time does the whole process take, 30, maybe 45 minuets out of many glorious days of vaca? So what if the movie is cheesy, & seriously, there's more explicit violence in a road runner cartoon... Plus, in addition to the movie, if there are still questions or ANY confusion an abundance of X crew are always on hand to help.

 

Muster topic aside, what bravery to insult another person on a forum...! How nice it is to sit in your armchair and sling unnecessary insults at another (while remaining anonymous) because they had the audacity to share a little happiness. This was a positive post - something that seems more and more rare on this forum, why feel the need to poo on that? Whoever you are, I feel sorry for you, you must be very unhappy to be so very unkind to a total stranger.

 

 

 

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As someone who's actually been on a cruise ship during a collision at sea and had to go to our muster station and put on life jackets (luckily, did NOT have to abandon ship though they lowered the lifeboats), I found the video to be terrible.

 

First, we were in the MDR and most people couldn't see the screens -- the room is set up for people to eat, not to watch a movie. Many passengers were playing with their phones during the movie (despite an announcement not to) and not one made any effort to stop them.

 

More importantly, some of the most important information was not clearly conveyed. Specifically, the need to dress warmly (even in the Caribbean in summer), the need to bring Rx medications, and the preference (if not need) to bring your life jacket if you're coming from your cabin. Yeah, it was mentioned in the movie, but was very easy to miss with all of the James Bond-esque story.

 

When we had our emergency (in the middle of the night), you would not believe the number of people who showed up in their nightgowns and bare feet and without their life jackets in a situation where everyone was in their cabin and there was plenty of time to get dressed.

 

A little entertainment to keep one's attention is commendable. But when the entertainment obscures or overshadows the critical information that passengers need to survive, then it's unproductive.

 

As an aside, I am glad that the OP found the movie enjoyable. And if he/she also found it informative, then this approach must be working for at least some passengers. It just wasn't for us.

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I couldn't agree more. We were on Rhapsody when we had an "incident" . We woke at 5am when the ship listed badly and didn't right itself. Furniture moved across rooms, everything flew off counter tops, sunbeds smashed the Viking Crown lounge windows and the pool water was flowing down the stairs and lift shafts. Unbelievably no emergency signal (or even tannoy announcement for 20 minutes). People were running around barefoot and in underwear (plus staff in nightwear) We were petrified and although we had the presence of mind to put on clothes including jumpers, even we, who've been on multiple cruises so attended multiple muster drills, never thought to take life jackets. Don't underestimate how frightening it is to be woken by an emergency situation and how much fear clouds common sense. Safety information needs to be clear and concise not hidden amongst entertaining fluff.

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We disagree with most previous posters.

We loved the video for several reasons

 

- we did not have to stand for almost an hour on the hot and open deck

- in our case, in the theatre, all informations could be clearly seen and be heard

- the usual noise from people prematurely opening their lifevests did not disturb so much

- having heard the ‚dry‘ information before several times, our attention was higher, but it may be difficult to understand for firsttimers.

- we found the video entertaining and informative with he correct mindset.

 

Its a bit the same like with the Delta Air safety announcements

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- we did not have to stand for almost an hour on the hot and open deck

- in our case, in the theatre, all informations could be clearly seen and be heard

- the usual noise from people prematurely opening their lifevests did not disturb so much

- having heard the ‚dry‘ information before several times, our attention was higher, but it may be difficult to understand for firsttimers.

- we found the video entertaining and informative with he correct mindset.

 

Its a bit the same like with the Delta Air safety announcements

A few thoughts. Some cruise lines (e.g., Princess) hold the drills in lounges but (at least the last time we cruised with Princess), the information was clearly presented without video.

 

Most cruise lines (e.g, RCL) no longer require you to take your life jackets to the drill so there is no noise of tearing off life jackets (not that this issue has ranked in the top 1,000 of things that might annoy me on cruise).

 

It doesn't make sense to compare a cruise disaster to an airline disaster -- and thus to compare the respective videos -- for any number of reasons. One is that airline disasters happen in the space of a few minutes and any idiot knows to get off the plane as quickly as possible. That's not always true for a ship, where you may need to be prepared to spend hours or even days in a lifeboat. Second -- and sadly -- if a plane crashes, the outcome is almost always fatal for the passengers. Thus, while the safety briefing is nice, the information is almost never used. The opposite is true of cruise ships -- the process of preparing for and evacuating the ship is much more drawn out and complex. Having passengers who are prepared makes the entire process safer and more effective for all.

 

As noted, it's wonderful that many people find the Bond-esque video enjoyable. I just question whether, if this is the only briefing they ever get, they will be prepared in a real emergency.

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Plane vs cruiseship:

and how many people waste time by taking their handluggage in a real emergency?

Just to show how idiot-proof evacuation of a plane goes

 

Cruiseship vs. Plane

As you unfortunately lived thru one evacuation, how many people did show up not properly dressed, without their meds and swimvest on deck ( and not in their correct assembly station) back then and where sent back to their cabins)?

 

It just shows, no matter how you do the drill, people will screw it up in a real emergency and do not what they have been told previously.

 

And your example shows, that - fortunately, in most incidents on cruiseships, there is enough time to repeat the instructions again and again over the announcement speakers go ensure that as many as possible passengers are doing the right thing.

So the chance that everyone is getting the correct instructions right on time and is following them (that's another topic) is much higher than on a plane emergency.

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