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Royal Caribbean the McDonalds of cruise lines?

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I consider NCL the bottom of the list with Carnival slightly above them in quality. I am hoping that RCCL will be a step up from both. The only thing NCL has going for it is free cheap drinks. 

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2 hours ago, Robo1098 said:

I was merely talking about a conversation I had with friends about cruising on a cruise site. I quoted a comment a woman made because I was surprised by what she said. I like cruising on Royal Caribbean and have not cruised on NCL but thought they were relatively similar. I was wondering what others thought and thought this was the place to discuss cruising. I see no reason to accuse me of being a "troll". I never said anything bad about Royal Caribbean or tried to agitate anyone or stir things up. I really don't see the enjoyment in stirring things up but I'm sure there are better ways. I could start a discussion on smoking or sharing drink packages or kids in the Solarium. If you read what was said there doesn't seem to be people agitated unless you count when McDonalds was better, in the past or now. Nothing was made up and there is nothing to take ownership of.

 

This is getting old. First you, and plenty more should look up the definition of trolls at least based on the internet definition.

To paraphrase it, it's someone who intentionally says or post something with the sole intention of stiring the pot to invoke a retaliatory response. If you say I think RCL is the McDonalds of cruising, that is your opinion and you have every right to post it.

You might be called a whiner or you expectations are too high, but by definition, you are not a troll. If you say RCL is one step ahead of the Long Island garbage scow, then that's trolling. The same thing about the sharing drinks or smoking, if you really believe it don't let the bullies and the self righteous cheerleaders scare you away. You have exactly the same right to voice your opinion as everybody who thinks the opposite.

If everybody posted everything negative they heard it would be out on control. Everything I post, I really believe. I'm an educated big boy who is able distinguish between what I like and don't like so if you don't agree, I won't lose any sleep over it. 

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15 minutes ago, grandgeezer said:

 

This is getting old. First you, and plenty more should look up the definition of trolls at least based on the internet definition.

To paraphrase it, it's someone who intentionally says or post something with the sole intention of stiring the pot to invoke a retaliatory response. If you say I think RCL is the McDonalds of cruising, that is your opinion and you have every right to post it.

You might be called a whiner or you expectations are too high, but by definition, you are not a troll. If you say RCL is one step ahead of the Long Island garbage scow, then that's trolling. The same thing about the sharing drinks or smoking, if you really believe it don't let the bullies and the self righteous cheerleaders scare you away. You have exactly the same right to voice your opinion as everybody who thinks the opposite.

If everybody posted everything negative they heard it would be out on control. Everything I post, I really believe. I'm an educated big boy who is able distinguish between what I like and don't like so if you don't agree, I won't lose any sleep over it. 

You are right this is getting old. I didn't post is to stir the pot and if you would read the responding posts you would see it really hasn't. I like Royal Caribbean and have several more cruises booked with them. Most people said that what the person said is not derogatory. So go on policing the internet and make all the incorrect assumptions you want. Trolling has never been my intention and I'm not sure why you are fixated on a post that really hasn't stirred argument.

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On 10/23/2018 at 5:05 AM, Robo1098 said:

I was out with some friends this weekend. One of the women that has been on 22 cruises with NCL said that she thought that Royal Caribbean was the McDonalds of cruise lines. I have to say I was kind of hurt by this. Don't really agree with this either. I thought for the most part NCL was similar to slightly above RCI. Am I wrong on this?

Why would you be hurt by someone else’s opinion of something?

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2 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

Why would you be hurt by someone else’s opinion of something?

I guess I wasn't hurt like I went home upset but I was surprised. I brought up the cruise because I was broaching the subject of them booking the same cruise as well because I knew she had been on a few cruises and her boyfriend that is my friend has not. She didn't dismiss it but her response surprised me and I wasn't familiar with NCL so I didn't want to push something she wasn't happy with.

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13 hours ago, Robo1098 said:

You are right this is getting old. I didn't post is to stir the pot and if you would read the responding posts you would see it really hasn't. I like Royal Caribbean and have several more cruises booked with them. Most people said that what the person said is not derogatory. So go on policing the internet and make all the incorrect assumptions you want. Trolling has never been my intention and I'm not sure why you are fixated on a post that really hasn't stirred argument.

You did realize that person was not calling you a troll. They were actually defending your right to an opinion. Did you read their post?

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On 10/22/2018 at 3:46 PM, voyager70 said:

Mc D's used to serve pizza?  I don't remember that.  Give me a Filet of Fish anyday though.  Make it 2 (they're small) ☺️

 I have never seen in that in NY. Then again no self respecting New Yorker would buy pizza at McDonalds especially since real Pizzerias out number McDonalds in any neighborhood. 

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On 10/23/2018 at 1:08 PM, pcur said:

I've cruised for 45 years on just about every mid-priced cruise line except Carnival.  I had a good comparative experience in 2017 when we went on a b2b2b on 3 different cruise lines:  HAL, NCL, and RCCL.  RCCL was the best of the three.  My NCL Spirit cruise in Europe last year was fantastic, though.  

 

I think it's a matter of ships and itineraries, and it's all subjective as stated above.  Having cruised RCCL, Celebrity, NCL, HAL, Princess, Costa, and Cunard, we still find RCCL to be our favorite.

 

I've been on three RCCL cruises and really enjoyed them.  I just put a hold on a HAL cruise (10 day Southern Caribbean with a great-for-me itinerary).  Any thoughts on the difference between RCCL and HAL?  From what I've read so far, I'm seeing it as an older demographic (especially on a ten day) and maybe not as many activities at night, but I'd appreciate any input. Thanks!

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11 minutes ago, RW_MI said:

 

I've been on three RCCL cruises and really enjoyed them.  I just put a hold on a HAL cruise (10 day Southern Caribbean with a great-for-me itinerary).  Any thoughts on the difference between RCCL and HAL?  From what I've read so far, I'm seeing it as an older demographic (especially on a ten day) and maybe not as many activities at night, but I'd appreciate any input. Thanks!

HAL is more subdued and quiet.  I think it's because there are usually few children on the ship.  They are very classic ships with good service and good crews.  Their buffet is a step above.  We were on a 28 night cruise from Honolulu to Vacouver, and ate in the buffet for dinner about 10 nights.  They have separate areas for appetizers and desserts that are wonderful.  Their food is fresh prepared with cooking stations behind the buffet, and the staff serve you, except for sushi, and pre-prepared items.

 

The main dining room service is very good, as is the food.  Can't complain there.

 

You are correct, the night activities are minimal, except for the casino, but we don't go to many entertainment venues on any cruiseline, so it's not a problem for us.  

 

I thoroughly enjoyed our HAL cruises, and the HAL board here on CruiseCritic has some very gracious and helpful people.

 

RCCL is more oriented to keeping you active, busy, entertained.  HAL is more oriented to keeping you stress-free, calm, and comfortable.  A 10 day HAL cruise will probably be more 40 - 80 age group.  Our 28 night the ages ranged more like 65 - 85.

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5 minutes ago, pcur said:

I thoroughly enjoyed our HAL cruises, and the HAL board here on CruiseCritic has some very gracious and helpful people.

Thanks, pcur, your whole post was very helpful!! 

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8 minutes ago, RW_MI said:

Thanks, pcur, your whole post was very helpful!! 

Happy to help.  One more thing:  on our Honolulu to Vancouver cruise HAL had really good guest lecturers.  They do this (like RCCL) for cruises with lots of sea days, but I find HAL's speakers are more interesting.  

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On 11/6/2018 at 7:36 AM, Iamcruzin said:

 I have never seen in that in NY. Then again no self respecting New Yorker would buy pizza at McDonalds especially since real Pizzerias out number McDonalds in any neighborhood. 

 

So is RCCL the Lombardi's, the Pizza Hut or Domino's of cruise lines?:classic_laugh:

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On 11/6/2018 at 7:36 AM, Iamcruzin said:

 I have never seen in that in NY. Then again no self respecting New Yorker would buy pizza at McDonalds especially since real Pizzerias out number McDonalds in any neighborhood. 

 

... now you have me thinking back to the day. 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

 

... now you have me thinking back to the day. 

 

 

 

Kingston was one of the test stores.  I remember taking a road trip just to try it out.

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1 minute ago, ehwspain said:

If she thinks that RCL is the McDonalds  of cruise lines I wonder what she thinks Costa is?

I don't know. She didn't expand much on the  comment. I was hoping the she and my friend would come on a cruise we had already planned on Symphony. After the comment I didn't know what more to say.

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2 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

 

Kingston was one of the test stores.  I remember taking a road trip just to try it out.

 

London too.  Did you know that London Ontario had Canada’s second McDonalds and the first in Eastern Canada?  It is at Wonderland and Oxford Streets, and is still there today. Trivial facts.

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4 hours ago, A&L_Ont said:

 

... now you have me thinking back to the day. 

 

 

That's what I'm talkin' about. Bring back the McPizza  now.

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11 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

 

London too.  Did you know that London Ontario had Canada’s second McDonalds and the first in Eastern Canada?  It is at Wonderland and Oxford Streets, and is still there today. Trivial facts.

Uh oh. The rest of the trivia players in March don't stand a chance with you and Courtney on the same ship. 

 

 

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On 10/22/2018 at 2:43 PM, twangster said:

Everything is relative.  If she had sailed mostly on NCL's newer ships then tried Enchantment I could see such a conclusion. 

 

If I sailed just Oasis class then sailed NCL's Jewel or Sky I would likely have a Motel 6 reference in mind.   

 

Everyone should try different cruise lines to find what floats their boat (ship).  We are not the same and our cruise needs are different. Each line has old, tired, small ships and each has new flashy ships.  Compare apples to apples.

My thoughts exactly. Compare each lines new ships and each lines old ships. I have also found the MDR food to be better on the smaller/older ships. Fewer to cook for.   We've had good and bad service on new and old ships , but it has been random. I think it's who you started with and have become loyal to. My sister is a total Carnival junkie and says she has never had a bad Carnival cruise, so why try any other cruise lines!

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Nasty and ridiculous comment, designed to make you feel inferior for your lack of understanding / appreciation of the finer things in life. I've done Disney and Celebrity, albeit many years ago, and guess what? I like Royal Caribbean (and also Carnival) just as well. Really - exactly as much, and the price point is significantly lower. 

 

And by the way, you may have noticed that there is no shortage of McDonald's lovers in the world, so what is the point really? Something most people can afford, and that plenty of those will massively enjoy. . . but if they don't fit into McD's clientele, they can easily buy something else more suited to their veddy veddy fine tastes. Your friend may need to wear Nieman Marcus attire  and be followed around by a butler carrying trays of caviar canapes to prove her superiority.  When really, she is spoiled, common, and obviously ungrateful for her privileged place as the passenger on the ship (any cruise ship, any line), rather than, for instance, the crew.   

 

Ooh, how do I really feel?

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Speaking of pizza... I’m super bummed I never got a chance to try the pizza at subway or McDonalds.  I’m from MN, and I guess we aren’t picky 😉

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20 years ago we started on RC and maybe have done 6 or 7 cruises with them. But haven't been on them in at least 10 years. I do still like McDonalds, however. They don't nickle-and-dime you. I pay for my order before the the food comes, and when they deliver the food, they don't hand me a bill for hundred of dollars in extra charges and gratuities.

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I prefer RCCL because I like newer ships and they have more to do for longer cruises. I still prefer Carnival for shorter (3-4 night) trips, and Celebrity was great for less frills and more relaxation. 

NCL has launched 5 new Quantum class ships in the past 5 years (one more next year) and nearly 100% of the rest of their fleet has undergone a complete overhaul dry dock (demoed down to the deck plates and rebuilt)  in the past 4 years. 

 

We sail on both NCL and RCL. Each has pluses and minuses. 

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9 minutes ago, nhraformula00 said:

 

Everyone gets a free cruise, generous OBC and free internet. Simply McNificent.  What's not to like?

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3 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

McDonald’s best meal: Portuguese sausage, spam, eggs and rice

 

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Where do you find this? 

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6 hours ago, sfaaa said:

Where do you find this? 

Every Mcdonalds here on Oahu serves it.  It's called a local deluxe and about $7 per plate.  

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On ‎11‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 7:27 PM, Robo1098 said:

I don't know. She didn't expand much on the  comment. I was hoping the she and my friend would come on a cruise we had already planned on Symphony. After the comment I didn't know what more to say.

 

Yeah, why would she want to waste her time on literally the largest, most spectacular cruise ship ever known to human people? Full of unbelievably fancy suites designed even for her delicate needs, but then she might accidentally rub elbows with the Big Mac eaters, the filth from the inside guarantee cabins (such as Kmom).  She likely feels very sorry for you, Robo. Poor Robo.

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On 11/18/2018 at 1:48 PM, pcur said:

HAL is more subdued and quiet.  I think it's because there are usually few children on the ship.  They are very classic ships with good service and good crews.  Their buffet is a step above.  We were on a 28 night cruise from Honolulu to Vacouver, and ate in the buffet for dinner about 10 nights.  They have separate areas for appetizers and desserts that are wonderful.  Their food is fresh prepared with cooking stations behind the buffet, and the staff serve you, except for sushi, and pre-prepared items.

 

The main dining room service is very good, as is the food.  Can't complain there.

 

You are correct, the night activities are minimal, except for the casino, but we don't go to many entertainment venues on any cruiseline, so it's not a problem for us.  

 

I thoroughly enjoyed our HAL cruises, and the HAL board here on CruiseCritic has some very gracious and helpful people.

 

RCCL is more oriented to keeping you active, busy, entertained.  HAL is more oriented to keeping you stress-free, calm, and comfortable.  A 10 day HAL cruise will probably be more 40 - 80 age group.  Our 28 night the ages ranged more like 65 - 85.

I agree with everything you wrote. Our favorite cruise line, so far at least, is HAL. We care more about itineraries than onboard entertainment, so they are perfect for us. I'm going on the Oasis in February though, but that's because I'm going with my daughter and granddaughter, so activities onboard are important.  🙂

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^ choices are good.  It's good to "have it yooouuur way....have it your way".  Oppps, would that be NCL? 😉

 

For those that are too young to remember:

 

 

 

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On 11/19/2018 at 6:25 PM, sfaaa said:

Everyone gets a free cruise, generous OBC and free internet. Simply McNificent.  What's not to like?

2,700 cruisers trying to get home from Puerto Rico just before Thanksgiving and all flights are already booked solid. Thats a problem.

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On 11/18/2018 at 10:18 PM, Ourusualbeach said:

Uh oh. The rest of the trivia players in March don't stand a chance with you and Courtney on the same ship. 

 

 

 

I'll take obscure McD's for $200, Alex. 😉

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On 11/18/2018 at 10:02 PM, A&L_Ont said:

 

London too.  Did you know that London Ontario had Canada’s second McDonalds and the first in Eastern Canada?  It is at Wonderland and Oxford Streets, and is still there today. Trivial facts.

 

What year did it open?

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On 11/19/2018 at 7:19 PM, BirdTravels said:

 

NCL has launched 5 new Quantum class ships in the past 5 years (one more next year) and nearly 100% of the rest of their fleet has undergone a complete overhaul dry dock (demoed down to the deck plates and rebuilt)  in the past 4 years. 

 

We sail on both NCL and RCL. Each has pluses and minuses. 

 

NCL has a Quantum class?

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On 11/18/2018 at 10:02 PM, A&L_Ont said:

 

London too.  Did you know that London Ontario had Canada’s second McDonalds and the first in Eastern Canada?  It is at Wonderland and Oxford Streets, and is still there today. Trivial facts.

I like trivial facts. One of the McDonald's stores in Concord, New Hampshire, was the 1,000th U.S. store when it opened in the early '70s. The store still exists, although the original was demolished and rebuilt. I'll have to go back and look at the plaque on the wall to get the exact details. I believe the 1,000th store worldwide opened in 1968.

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