Edge (and Apex?) issues...

[StillLooking4Adventure]

So I have been deciding on a cruise for 2020 fall and have to pick one by the 30th to comply with my future cruise "deal" I got on my last cruise. I have been reading a lot of reviews of the Edge and already had concerns about the IV rooms. I just got off phone with my travel agent and she went on the 3 day Edge preview cruise. Here is what she told me.

 

She liked some of the things about the IV room. However these were the problems. I was unaware, according to her, that when you have the "balcony" window open the AC goes off. I asked can't you just close the inner doors? She said they don't seal. There is a one inch gap, so the heat and and humidity will steam up the room. She is one who's husband likes to sit out on the balcony and she doesn't so, it's a problem

 

The second thing she mentioned was the lack of bars for "regular" folk. There are only 5 bars on the Edge for non-suite guests. She said getting a drink was not easy. This is a real problem for those of us with drink packages who like to make the most of them and enjoy our cocktails.

 

The third thing is that she said the central lobby area where the Martini bar is, is extremely noisy and loud. She ate in the Fine Cut Steak house and said they couldn't even hear their waiter because the restaurant is directly off this central gathering point.

 

So, as of now, I am waiting to hear about any changes in the Apex and will book a non-edge ship. I just hope they don't get rid of any bars during the "edgefication process of the current fleet. 

[Bo1953]

You, also, may wish to consider reading some of the reviews in this forum from those who have sailed 'full revenue' as some of those reviews vary from the 'Preview' sailings.

 

You can achieve this easily by going to the main page for X here at CC, upper left side area, click on "See Posts About: (then select Celebrity Edge).

 

There are a few general reviews, three (3) day sailing (Preview) and full revenue sailings.

 

From what you have posted, thus far, it appears that booking "a non-edge ship" may be best for you, especially for the 'bar' issues alone and their importance for your desires.

 

bon voyage

[Esprit]

So the misinformation continues to be spouted out about the Edge.

There are actually NINE bars serving alcoholic drinks for non suite guests.

Martini bar

The Club

Casino bar

Eden

Magic Carpet

Resort bar

Sunset bar

Café a Bacio

Ocean View bar

I had the drinks package and it was used just as much as on my Reflection cruise earlier this year.

I would respectfully suggest you go back to your travel agent and ask her to stop misinforming her clients.

 

[cruise47]

Why are there only 15 to 17 actual reviews on Vtcruising spreadsheet under The Edge at the Celebrity Cruise Forum ?   She asked for our input to create that spreadsheet.

 

But there are over 30 reviews under the CC Ship Reviews.Section. Why the big differences?  Plus, the reviews under CC Ship Reviews are more positive. .

IMHO.

 

[hcat]

I thought the CC gen reviews were quite mixed and not many glowing ones...but I am only 1/2 way  through reading them. Many of those reviewers were not names I recognized from the EDGE threads...or CC in general. Perhaps because EDGE was to be geared to attracting new clientele rather than X regulars?????

 

  We usually have not  submitted a review to the  CC review section in the past,  but post in the forum...I think others do the same. We may  submit  one after our Jan cruise...and will definitely add to the EDGE cabin sticky, now located at the top if the CC Celeb  page.

 

 

[ipeeinthepool]

1 hour ago, Esprit said:

So the misinformation continues to be spouted out about the Edge.

There are actually NINE bars serving alcoholic drinks for non suite guests.

Martini bar

The Club

Casino bar

Eden

Magic Carpet

Resort bar

Sunset bar

Café a Bacio

Ocean View bar

I had the drinks package and it was used just as much as on my Reflection cruise earlier this year.

I would respectfully suggest you go back to your travel agent and ask her to stop misinforming her clients.

 

 

I don't think it is fair to discount other's cruisers experiences on the Edge.  The OP's TA indicated it was difficult for them to get a drink.  In the absence of other evidence I will take them at their word.  Although your list of nine bars is likely accurate that they serve some kind of alcohol, I don't know that I would describe all of them as bars.  For example can I have never seen Café a Bacio serving a wide variety of beers.  Is the Ocean View bar just a place for people to get their drinks and go to away or are there seats and a traditional bar-like setting.  I don't know that I'm looking to go sit in the Ocean View Café if I'm looking to have a couple of drinks before dinner.  What about the Magic Carpet?  How much time is it closed for dinner and other special events.  Sure there's a bar in the Casino, but the typical non-gambler doesn't find all of the noise from the games to be relaxing.  

 

Is five the correct number of real places some one would go to drink, I'm not sure but I doubt it's nine.  Whatever the number, the TA had problems getting drinks and that's the message she should provide his/her clients.

 

 

[Esprit]

50 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

I don't think it is fair to discount other's cruisers experiences on the Edge.  The OP's TA indicated it was difficult for them to get a drink.  In the absence of other evidence I will take them at their word.  Although your list of nine bars is likely accurate that they serve some kind of alcohol, I don't know that I would describe all of them as bars.  For example can I have never seen Café a Bacio serving a wide variety of beers.  Is the Ocean View bar just a place for people to get their drinks and go to away or are there seats and a traditional bar-like setting.  I don't know that I'm looking to go sit in the Ocean View Café if I'm looking to have a couple of drinks before dinner.  What about the Magic Carpet?  How much time is it closed for dinner and other special events.  Sure there's a bar in the Casino, but the typical non-gambler doesn't find all of the noise from the games to be relaxing.  

 

Is five the correct number of real places some one would go to drink, I'm not sure but I doubt it's nine.  Whatever the number, the TA had problems getting drinks and that's the message she should provide his/her clients.

 

 

The TA's were given free drinks so of course they had trouble getting a drink!

The Martini bar certainly didn't have a wide variety of beers either as unsurprisingly it specialises in Martinis. When the theatre shows finished it would be extremely busy just like any other ship bar at those times. The proximity of the casino bar meant that I could get our drinks more quickly. The Edge Sunset bar also had a better configuration than the Reflection Sunset bar so getting a drink there was easier. I accept the MC wasn't open all the time but I still believe the TA was misinforming the facts.

Edited December 27, 2018 by Esprit
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[killsport]

My wife was on the Edge preview 3-day cruise. She concurred that getting a drink was a challenge. Additionally, there were few "nooks and crannies" as she called them to sit and talk with your friends. She did love the food across the ship, though the service in the Fine Cut was an issue.

She did say she would NOT go again on the Edge (even at "regular" S-class prices):

- not enough shade

- strongly disliked the the IV (enclosed on all sides but one so no openness, no air flow, not available as often as a normal balcony, and smaller)

- few activities that weren't pay-per-use

- no small gathering places to talk to friends

- noise/activity in the Atrium

- few bars relative to other S-class ships

- Eden "weirdness"

- drink prices / loss of World Class Bar

+ food quality / 4 main restaurants instead of 1

+ new/different ship

+ casino bar setup

+ boarding process

She was with a group of 12 who have sailed on most non-ultra luxury cruise lines (such as NCL, HAL, X, RCCL, MSC, Princess, and Oceania). After the cruise, none of them thought the Edge was a winner and none expected to book on the Edge again. Ages ranged from 38 to 75, male and female, both single and married.

DISCLOSURE: We have no financial exposure to RCI, nor family working for RCI. As such, you can take this as the unbiased experience of this group.

[ipeeinthepool]

13 minutes ago, killsport said:

My wife was on the Edge preview 3-day cruise. She concurred that getting a drink was a challenge. Additionally, there were few "nooks and crannies" as she called them to sit and talk with your friends. She did love the food across the ship, though the service in the Fine Cut was an issue.

She did say she would NOT go again on the Edge (even at "regular" S-class prices):

- not enough shade

- strongly disliked the the IV (enclosed on all sides but one so no openness, no air flow, not available as often as a normal balcony, and smaller)

- few activities that weren't pay-per-use

- no small gathering places to talk to friends

- noise/activity in the Atrium

- few bars relative to other S-class ships

- Eden "weirdness"

- drink prices / loss of World Class Bar

+ food quality / 4 main restaurants instead of 1

+ new/different ship

+ casino bar setup

+ boarding process

She was with a group of 12 who have sailed on most non-ultra luxury cruise lines (such as NCL, HAL, X, RCCL, MSC, Princess, and Oceania). After the cruise, none of them thought the Edge was a winner and none expected to book on the Edge again. Ages ranged from 38 to 75, male and female, both single and married.

DISCLOSURE: We have no financial exposure to RCI, nor family working for RCI. As such, you can take this as the unbiased experience of this group.

 

Please thank you wife for a fair and balanced review of the Edge. It’s too bad that the wife and her group did not have an experience that they enjoyed enough to repeat.  I’m afraid that this will be a huge problem for Celebrity, I hope they find a way to recover.

[ORV]

I don't think anyone is having a gun held to their head forcing them to book the IV. Don't like the way people are reviewing it? Don't book it. Not rocket science. 

[villauk]

It’s good to see a TA give her honest review and to tell her clients what will and won’t suit their particular needs (what works for some doesn’t work for everyone). After all, she could have just considered the extra commission she would have received from the Edge pricing compared to any other ship in the X fleet 😉.

 

ORV raises a good point: the TA has provided details of where she feels it won’t suit the cruisers needs, so then it’s up to the individual whether they decide to take the risk and book it.

[JKHawaii]

I don't really care about the number of bars or how weird Eden may be ................ for me, it's about simple economics.

 

My 10-night cruise January 2020 on the Reflection is $1400 cheaper than a regular (finite?) balcony on the Edge 7-night January 2020 cruise for the two of us ........................ $1800 cheaper than an IV.

 

I'll look at the Edge or Apex if and when the prices come down to earth.

 

[yorky]

12 minutes ago, JKHawaii said:

I don't really care about the number of bars or how weird Eden may be ................ for me, it's about simple economics.

 

My 10-night cruise January 2020 on the Reflection is $1400 cheaper than a regular (finite?) balcony on the Edge 7-night January 2020 cruise for the two of us ........................ $1800 cheaper than an IV.

 

I'll look at the Edge or Apex if and when the prices come down to earth.

 

We are the same, but for cold weather cruises only. It looks to have a lot to offer if the price is right but I don’t see us ever doing the Caribbean on it or it’s sister ship. The S class ships are more than capable in that regard with the extra large balconies on the hump.

[Lastdance]

I am sure with all the information available, you will make the right decision for you...what is your gut telling you...new experience or go with the known?  Once all the dust settles, choose what is best for you...

 

I have two Edge bookings, one in a suite, and one in an SV.  My third booking is on Reflection in AQ and another TA, like one of my Edge bookings...will I make all three...TBD, as one is in 2020, but I hope so...

[BudlyDudly]

Ok, so instead of starting a new thread, I’ll pop in my 2c right here.

My wife and I sailed aboard Celebrity EDGE Dec 16-23. We chose this ship following mention by our cruise planner that there would be fewer kids aboard.  It was also our very first cruise absent friends or spawn. Just us two.

We did not like the ship. Course, we knew up front it would be different from the cruise experiences we’ve had with 5 RC and 3 Princess cruises.  We are indeed casual cruisers.  Not professionals.  

The “feel” of the EDGE is that of a floating hotel, and not the floating “town” we’ve come to know and enjoy.  The EDGE has no open view elevators with pleasant interior or exterior views. Aboard the EDGE, quests surrender their ability to sleep each night with the sounds of the ocean as background.  The captain remotely closed all stateroom "windows" 3 of 7 nights due to weather in the area.  (This was a hot topic that generation a lot of chatter amongst guests we ran into.) Once closed, the room fell horribly silent. Thankful for the (white noise) noisemaker app on my cell phone.  Royal Caribbean ships pipe the hallway/elevator music into each stateroom where guests have the ability to manage the volume.  The EDGE missed this comfort feature. 

The shops on board were ridiculously up-scale and horribly over priced. We bought NOTHING on board!   

The shows during the week were good, but the voice-overs were terribly difficult to hear, and the instrumental performances drowned out the vocalists. 

Eden was fascinating.  Only did a walk through.

The DJ supplied musical selections on the main pool deck most often featured today's Pop and Rap artists. Really?  It seemed to us that the avg guest age aboard was probably over 50!  This was dumb and unwelcome.

The bar at poolside was lousy and closed earlier than one would expect.  The best bar was the Sunset bar, deck 15 aft.

Finally, this ship should NOT be marketed to families with young children. In MY opinion, the environment is ill-suited for youngsters.

Edited December 27, 2018 by BudlyDudly

[StillLooking4Adventure]

6 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:

 

I don't think it is fair to discount other's cruisers experiences on the Edge.  The OP's TA indicated it was difficult for them to get a drink.  In the absence of other evidence I will take them at their word.  Although your list of nine bars is likely accurate that they serve some kind of alcohol, I don't know that I would describe all of them as bars.  For example can I have never seen Café a Bacio serving a wide variety of beers.  Is the Ocean View bar just a place for people to get their drinks and go to away or are there seats and a traditional bar-like setting.  I don't know that I'm looking to go sit in the Ocean View Café if I'm looking to have a couple of drinks before dinner.  What about the Magic Carpet?  How much time is it closed for dinner and other special events.  Sure there's a bar in the Casino, but the typical non-gambler doesn't find all of the noise from the games to be relaxing.  

 

Is five the correct number of real places some one would go to drink, I'm not sure but I doubt it's nine.  Whatever the number, the TA had problems getting drinks and that's the message she should provide his/her clients.

8 hours ago, Esprit said:

So the misinformation continues to be spouted out about the Edge.

There are actually NINE bars serving alcoholic drinks for non suite guests.

Martini bar

The Club

Casino bar

Eden

Magic Carpet

Resort bar

Sunset bar

Café a Bacio

Ocean View bar

I had the drinks package and it was used just as much as on my Reflection cruise earlier this year.

I would respectfully suggest you go back to your travel agent and ask her to stop misinforming her clients.

 

 

My travel agent is very pro-RCCL and Celebrity. She didn't tell me "don't choose the Edge" She said she really enjoyed the IV room for various reasons "but it's not for everyone". She is always careful to point out the good and the potential downsides of every ship we talk about. She is a very active TA, not a PT one. She goes on lots of cruises and seminars to keep up her current knowledge. In relation to your list I agree with what Esprit said. Specifically I think of a "bar" as a place that has the feel of a place you would enjoy going to to have drinks before or after dinner to enjoy with other people who enjoy before or after dinner drinks. We have met many wonderful people in the bar in such a way. 

1-Martini Bar (Full Bar atmosphere even if Martini's are the specialty)

--The Club (Apparently this appears to be part of a new dance area, not someplace I would think to go)

--The Casino (again, not a regular more like a place for the gamblers to get a drink)

2- Eden - Seems like it might be a nice place to hang and drink if not accosted by strange dancers.

-- Magic Carpet - My understanding is it will be used for many other purposes other than a bar most times.

--Resort Bar - Please enlighten. Can't find it listed on the Deck Plan or under 'X's own list of bars

3- Sunset Bar - (the solstice class Sunset bar was perfect, why change it to a bar facing a wall?)

 Cafe Bacio - not a bar. Place for coffee with spirits in it.

 Ocean View - Might as well list all the restaurants where you can order a drink if you don't mind waiting a long time.

 

From this list it looks like my travel agent may have been over-generous. I only find 3 places that are dedicated "bars"  Even on Celebrities own web site they don't list the "resort bar"  https://www.celebritycruises.com/edge/dining/bars-and-lounges/

 

They also got rid of my favorite bar, The Ensemble, where we gathered before dinner at a specialty restaurant and enjoyed live music and Hor D'oeuvres. 

 

By the way, I did decide to exclude Apex and Edge from potential choices and went with a Silhouette cruise. It will be "Edgefied" by the time we go and I'm keeping my fingers crossed they don't eliminate too many public places for the addition of Suite Only places.   I also am hoping they make changes in the Apex to fix some of the most common complaints.

[Bo1953]

26 minutes ago, BudlyDudly said:

Ok, so instead of starting a new thread, I’ll pop in my 2c right here.

My wife and I sailed aboard Celebrity EDGE Dec 16-23. We chose this ship following mention by our cruise planner that there would be fewer kids aboard.  It was also our very first cruise absent friends or spawn. Just us two.

We did not like the ship. Course, we knew up front it would be different from the cruise experiences we’ve had with 5 RC and 3 Princess cruises.  We are indeed casual cruisers.  Not professionals.  

The “feel” of the EDGE is that of a floating hotel, and not the floating “town” we’ve come to know and enjoy.  The EDGE has no open view elevators with pleasant interior or exterior views. Aboard the EDGE, quests surrender their ability to sleep each night with the sounds of the ocean as background.  The captain remotely closed all stateroom "windows" 3 of 7 nights due to weather in the area.  (This was a hot topic that generation a lot of chatter amongst guests we ran into.) Once closed, the room fell horribly silent. Thankful for the (white noise) noisemaker app on my cell phone.  Royal Caribbean ships pipe the hallway/elevator music into each stateroom where guests have the ability to manage the volume.  The EDGE missed this comfort feature. 

The shops on board were ridiculously up-scale and horribly over priced. We bought NOTHING on board!   

The shows during the week were good, but the voice-overs were terribly difficult to hear, and the instrumental performances drowned out the vocalists. 

Eden was fascinating.  Only did a walk through.

The DJ supplied musical selections on the main pool deck most often featured today's Pop and Rap artists. Really?  It seemed to us that the avg guest age aboard was probably over 50!  This was dumb and unwelcome.

The bar at poolside was lousy and closed earlier than one would expect.  The best bar was the Sunset bar, deck 15 aft.

Finally, this ship should NOT be marketed to families with young children. In MY opinion, the environment is ill-suited for youngsters.

Thank you for your review.

 

bon voyage

[hcat]

6 hours ago, killsport said:

My wife was on the Edge preview 3-day cruise. She concurred that getting a drink was a challenge. Additionally, there were few "nooks and crannies" as she called them to sit and talk with your friends. She did love the food across the ship, though the service in the Fine Cut was an issue.

She did say she would NOT go again on the Edge (even at "regular" S-class prices):

- not enough shade

- strongly disliked the the IV (enclosed on all sides but one so no openness, no air flow, not available as often as a normal balcony, and smaller)

- few activities that weren't pay-per-use

- no small gathering places to talk to friends

- noise/activity in the Atrium

- few bars relative to other S-class ships

- Eden "weirdness"

- drink prices / loss of World Class Bar

+ food quality / 4 main restaurants instead of 1

+ new/different ship

+ casino bar setup

+ boarding process

She was with a group of 12 who have sailed on most non-ultra luxury cruise lines (such as NCL, HAL, X, RCCL, MSC, Princess, and Oceania). After the cruise, none of them thought the Edge was a winner and none expected to book on the Edge again. Ages ranged from 38 to 75, male and female, both single and married.

DISCLOSURE: We have no financial exposure to RCI, nor family working for RCI. As such, you can take this as the unbiased experience of this group.

Thank you for the  balanced feedback...I feel .others should add the same type of disclosure where apropriate

 

We have 2 cruises booked on EDGE...One will be in AQ class/BLU/thermal suite....and unfortunately the enclosed IV.  We are treating that as a week at a spa vacation...gym spa, Solarium... The 2nd cruise is in a Sunset Veranda which we may enjoy quite a bit, That cruise will be about the dining venues and  ABC Island  ports,.

 

Not booking anything after that until we see how Silhouette turns out in the refurb! Creepy entertainment, rap music and  enclosed IV..will be our big neg   deciding factors 

[hcat]

2 hours ago, ORV said:

I don't think anyone is having a gun held to their head forcing them to book the IV. Don't like the way people are reviewing it? Don't book it. Not rocket science. 

Problem is that  on EDGE if you cannot afford a  regular balcony suite, the stateroom  options are fairly  limited.,  

 

Sunset Verandas are few,  and  cost  a bunch more than the IV; other balconies are  hull balconies...very small with round cut out.

 

So if we don't book the IV, where do we go on EDGE, other than ocean view window or inside?  We hope they keep regular balconies  on the M and S Class ships..and  find a way going forward  to improve the IVs

[floridatravelersforlife]

8 hours ago, hcat said:

I thought the CC gen reviews were quite mixed and not many glowing ones...but I am only 1/2 way  through reading them. Many of those reviewers were not names I recognized from the EDGE threads...or CC in general. Perhaps because EDGE was to be geared to attracting new clientele rather than X regulars?????

 

  We usually have not  submitted a review to the  CC review section in the past,  but post in the forum...I think others do the same. We may  submit  one after our Jan cruise...and will definitely add to the EDGE cabin sticky, now located at the top if the CC Celeb  page.

 

We always post in the CC Review Section because it's a single point resource for future interested parties.  In six months the Edge thread comments will be buried by hundreds or thousands of threads.  I for one and I am sure others, don't want to spend the time searching for and weeding thru the information.   Since CC doesn't enforce the the CC Review Section, a lot of feedback has been lost in the threads. 

 

[ambrtonj]

I agree that the choices are limited when you desire to have a full balcony. I have never sailed in a suite simply because I don't need the additional space. The things important to me on a cruise do not include anything within the cabin at all (with the exception of my wife.) Food is subjective and I have always been able to find something to eat. I also enjoy the Oceanview Cafe where I can fix a salad, find other vegetables besides three green beans and a teaspoon of potatoes. 

I lurked on the Edge board when it was being built. I think the ship is a fine ship that has things for a lot of different people. I have read most of the reviews and while there are things that don't appeal to me, there are others that do. So for me it's a matter of being frugal, or cheap as my wife would put it. I just don't see the value in sailing on Edge or Apex for me. 

[ecslady]

1 hour ago, StillLooking4Adventure said:

My travel agent is very pro-RCCL and Celebrity. She didn't tell me "don't choose the Edge" She said she really enjoyed the IV room for various reasons "but it's not for everyone". She is always careful to point out the good and the potential downsides of every ship we talk about. She is a very active TA, not a PT one. She goes on lots of cruises and seminars to keep up her current knowledge. In relation to your list I agree with what Esprit said. Specifically I think of a "bar" as a place that has the feel of a place you would enjoy going to to have drinks before or after dinner to enjoy with other people who enjoy before or after dinner drinks. We have met many wonderful people in the bar in such a way. 

1-Martini Bar (Full Bar atmosphere even if Martini's are the specialty)

--The Club (Apparently this appears to be part of a new dance area, not someplace I would think to go)

--The Casino (again, not a regular more like a place for the gamblers to get a drink)

2- Eden - Seems like it might be a nice place to hang and drink if not accosted by strange dancers.

-- Magic Carpet - My understanding is it will be used for many other purposes other than a bar most times.

--Resort Bar - Please enlighten. Can't find it listed on the Deck Plan or under 'X's own list of bars

3- Sunset Bar - (the solstice class Sunset bar was perfect, why change it to a bar facing a wall?)

 Cafe Bacio - not a bar. Place for coffee with spirits in it.

 Ocean View - Might as well list all the restaurants where you can order a drink if you don't mind waiting a long time.

 

From this list it looks like my travel agent may have been over-generous. I only find 3 places that are dedicated "bars"  Even on Celebrities own web site they don't list the "resort bar"  https://www.celebritycruises.com/edge/dining/bars-and-lounges/

 

They also got rid of my favorite bar, The Ensemble, where we gathered before dinner at a specialty restaurant and enjoyed live music and Hor D'oeuvres. 

 

By the way, I did decide to exclude Apex and Edge from potential choices and went with a Silhouette cruise. It will be "Edgefied" by the time we go and I'm keeping my fingers crossed they don't eliminate too many public places for the addition of Suite Only places.   I also am hoping they make changes in the Apex to fix some of the most common complaints.

 

For pre or post dinner dinners, there really is only one suitable Bar/lounge IMO and that is the very overcrowded Martini Bar where it is hard to get a seat.  The Club environment is not inviting and other activities were being held there per-dinner. Later in the evening it becomes a nightclub.  The Eden has the Edenists running around, and while I did not experience incense burning on the Dec9-16 cruise, I did read about that.  Not good for people with allergies or other breathing issues.

 

Going outside after one is showered and dressed for dinner for a drink is not something I want to do. I, too, missed a space like the Ensemble or Rendevous.  And they took away the forward Sky Lounge to put the Suite Retreat in.  They were quiet venues where you can sit, have a drink or two, and some pleasant conversation.  This is where the EDGE is severely lacking. And, I would never think of the casino, or the ocean view bars as a pre or post dinner lounge to get a drink.  Cafe el Bacio is limited in what they serve as we found out. And , I too don't know where the Resort Bar is.

 

Your TA is on the mark with her assessment. 

Edited December 27, 2018 by ecslady

[Esprit]

Sorry, but I thought Celebrity wanted to drop the pool deck term for resort deck, hence my reference to the resort bar.

[Doubt It]

Seems that Celebrity deliberately reduced the volume of true bar/conversation areas.

 

Sooo, the question is why.

 

Considering the past year of various threads stating the difficulty in getting a drink in the drink package era (attributed mostly to cut back in staff)  - I believe that Celebrity has limited the physical venues to acquire drinks - to increase profits.

 

So the cut back in staff combined with a reduction in physical venues dispensing alcohol = winner Celebrity.

 

Celebrity already has your $ - so no need to provide alcohol. 

 

It is beyond brilliant and the CEO is smiling all the way to the bank, with guests $.

 

 

[hcat]

I agree...they have your money already  so  they give you less opportunity to use your alc package.  We will actually bring our 2 allowed btls of wine onboard...just in case !   That and our Spring water....

 

Dies anyone know if there is  any bar service in the theater?  I heard the seats have cup/ glass  holders...

 

Hope alc and wine service in the restaurants is good..Maybe  we can linger there for after dinner drinks instead of moving on to a lounge or Cafe Baccio..???

 

We  will also try EDEN for early pre dinner drinks...it seems close to BLU  if we can  avoid the Edenists and misted incense. I assume they have non EDEN drinks there????