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I hope neither change happens. I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell of it, but I can't think of a place where someone's smoke is less likely to bother me than a beach. I do think they should throw the book at smokers who litter the beach (or anywhere else) with their cigarette butts. 

 

As to the vaping, meh. It doesn't really bother me. They usually don't smell bad. It's their lungs.

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I like a good cigar at night when I cruise.   I don't mind being relegated to an outdoor area away from the masses when I do care to lite up a stogie.   Otherwise I do not smoke.   I would like to see all cruise lines eliminate smoking from indoor areas, especially the casino.   It can get toxic in there with the low ceilings and large numbers of people.    Now RCL has gone a little down the road on the larger ships, having one side of the casino be non-smoking.   It certainly helps, but surely doesn't eliminate the issue.

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1 hour ago, Joseph2017China said:

15.5 % of adults smoke.  Just 15.5%.  One can only hope that if those 15.5% of the population would be only allowed outside smoking on a ship in a designated area that the other 84.5 of us can enjoy the casino!

That statistic is for the US.  Smoking in other countries is much more prevalent, and the cruise demographic is not all about the US.

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58 minutes ago, Joseph2017China said:

15.5 % of adults smoke.  Just 15.5%.  One can only hope that if those 15.5% of the population would be only allowed outside smoking on a ship in a designated area that the other 84.5 of us can enjoy the casino!

 

Should 15.5% of the outdoor area be designated as a smoking area?

 

That would be more than there is now.

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19 minutes ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

I suspect the 80% of folks who don't smoke would welcome a full ban.

 

Not this non-smoker.  Growing up in a smoking family, I've seen people get pretty creative sneaking a cigarette here and there.

 

I'd rather see them smoke in a designated, self-contained area than trying to sneak a puff in the corner of the WJ.

 

Do ships still have a cigar lounge? That might be a solution to the smokey casino, although it seems the newer, larger ships, the casino's don't seem as smokey.

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1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

 

 

No, if it only applies to beaches.  This is already happening on Jersey beaches and in restaurants.  Hey, they are in the process of banning all plastic straws at restaurants and fast foods.  They tried to instill banning smoking in Casinos, but got pushback as many smokers visit casinos. therefore loss of income especially with competition from surrounding states.

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5 minutes ago, HBE4 said:

 

Not this non-smoker.  Growing up in a smoking family, I've seen people get pretty creative sneaking a cigarette here and there.

 

I'd rather see them smoke in a designated, self-contained area than trying to sneak a puff in the corner of the WJ.

 

Do ships still have a cigar lounge? That might be a solution to the smokey casino, although it seems the newer, larger ships, the casino's don't seem as smokey.

It's only a matter of time when 1 cruise line takes the bold move to do a ban.  Once that happens...the others will follow in lightening pace.

 

Casinos onboard are already terrible gas chambers because of smokers, and plenty of folks would welcome the end to coddling the tobacco puffers. It will happen at some point.

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1 hour ago, Joseph2017China said:

15.5 % of adults smoke.  Just 15.5%.  One can only hope that if those 15.5% of the population would be only allowed outside smoking on a ship in a designated area that the other 84.5 of us can enjoy the casino!

I wish someone could determine the amount of casino revenue they lose due to people who can't or won't go into the casino due to smoking vs the amount of revenue from smokers they would lose if the casino goes smoke free.   I know quite a few people who don't go to the casino solely because of the smoke.  My guess is they wouldn't lose many smokers, they would just take more breaks.

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Celebrity has non-smoking casinos. They have for a while and they must not be losing money.

 

As much as I can't stand the smoke and have never smoked, I'm thinking maybe the govt is going a little overboard with the beach ban. Now if there was a way to make smokers dispose of the butts properly that would be great. Maybe they should add a tax to help with the cleaning of the beaches due to the butts. Higher cigarette prices might reduce the amount of smokers.

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43 minutes ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

It's only a matter of time when 1 cruise line takes the bold move to do a ban.  Once that happens...the others will follow in lightening pace.

 

Casinos onboard are already terrible gas chambers because of smokers, and plenty of folks would welcome the end to coddling the tobacco puffers. It will happen at some point.

I went on a cruise in China, and I was told, and read so many people say that smoking is going to be outrageous on the ship.  I was expecting the worse.  Than I found it the best, and most smoke free trip I made.  I learned why.  In Shanghai, it is illegal to smoke anyplace with a roof over your head.  That includes an open area with a roof, or covering over your head.  So, most people took their law, and applied it on the ship.  But I was also surprised with the lack of smoking on deck. 

 

I think soon, a cruise line will make the move.  I hope it's soon.  The numbers are so low now, I can't see any logical reason, to continue with smoking indoors.  Let's have the majority rule.

 

I have been in many countries, and in recent history, I really don't remember seeing any restaurant where people smoked next to me. 

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20 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said:

Celebrity has non-smoking casinos. They have for a while and they must not be losing money.

 

As much as I can't stand the smoke and have never smoked, I'm thinking maybe the govt is going a little overboard with the beach ban. Now if there was a way to make smokers dispose of the butts properly that would be great. Maybe they should add a tax to help with the cleaning of the beaches due to the butts. Higher cigarette prices might reduce the amount of smokers.

 

Another tax.  Most of the cost of a cigarette package is mostly state & federal taxes.

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Plastic drinking straws are being outlawed here in St. Pete.  I think they've started down a slippery slope- I don't see how on earth a cigarette can be legal and a drinking straw can't.  Drinking straws don't emit toxins into the air and I rarely see people just throwing their drinking straws on the ground, out car windows, etc. to dispose of them.  Neither can be said about cigarettes.

 

Personally, I'm OK with smoking areas as long as they are completely separate.  To each his own in that regard.  I am most certainly NOT OK with cigarette butts on the beach- sadly, there are many here on our beautiful beaches.  

 

 

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2 hours ago, setsail said:

Have any of you been on a fl beach lately, it's loaded with butts:classic_cool:

 

I agree, they should stop smoking on beaches and other sensitive areas.  However, in the absence of enacted legislation,  the state should some of their largesse (cigarette excise tax) they collect to clean up the beaches.  By the way, what is the excise tax on cigarettes in FL.  In our state (NJ) it's $2.70 per pack of 20 cigarettes plus sales tax.

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5 hours ago, theotherchad said:

I hope neither change happens. I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell of it, but I can't think of a place where someone's smoke is less likely to bother me than a beach. I do think they should throw the book at smokers who litter the beach (or anywhere else) with their cigarette butts. 

 

As to the vaping, meh. It doesn't really bother me. They usually don't smell bad. It's their lungs.

The main reason for the proposed law is because of the smoker slobs littering the beach with their cigarette butts. For some reason smokers don't think that's littering

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22 minutes ago, nelblu said:

 

I agree, they should stop smoking on beaches and other sensitive areas.  However, in the absence of enacted legislation,  the state should some of their largesse (cigarette excise tax) they collect to clean up the beaches.  By the way, what is the excise tax on cigarettes in FL.  In our state (NJ) it's $2.70 per pack of 20 cigarettes plus sales tax.

Total tax on Cigarettes here in Florida is $1.65 a pack which is a Cigarette Excise tax of $1.31 and $ .31 Sales Tax. 

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5 hours ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

I suspect the 80% of folks who don't smoke would welcome a full ban. 

 

The smokers don't realize or admit to it...but they'd be doing them a big favor...yet another incentive to quit.

 

Better stop the drinker, gamblers and over eaters too. Heck, I even say ban the fitness facilities on ships. 

 

Just trying to do people a big favor. 🤪

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