Single Smoking Thread (Use for all smoking discussions on HAL) )

[robotpony]

8 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

I think the real test is if there is smoking in the Casino on Pinnacle Class ships.  Anyone have any experience?

 

There was smoking in the casino on the NS in the Caribbean (2022).

There was no smoking in the casino on the Koningsdam, Vancouver/Alaska roundtrip (2022).

 

 

[HELENPSL]

Just off the Nieuw Statendam last week.  They do allow smoking in a small area of the casino.

Helen

[BobnJaci]

As a regular cigar smoker I understand the outdoor area on NA. However lighting a cigar is a process  in the wind. Additionally,  ashtrays for cigarettes don't work well for cigars. How hard would it to be to buy a couple cigar ashtrays ?

[sunseeker62]

On 1/28/2023 at 1:46 PM, BobnJaci said:

As a regular cigar smoker I understand the outdoor area on NA. However lighting a cigar is a process  in the wind. Additionally,  ashtrays for cigarettes don't work well for cigars. How hard would it to be to buy a couple cigar ashtrays ?

 

[edgee]

On 12/28/2022 at 6:03 AM, 0106 said:

Rotterdam Smoking Policy

• Sea View Bar area
• Casino-smoking is allowed in designated areas for active players only and only when outside of 12NM from the Netherlands
•  

 

 

@horseymikeThe Frequently Asked Questions section of the HAL site will provide answers to most of the questions you have been asking. https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/faq.html

You make a generally good point, but lately it seems like info you are linking to is not always up to date./reliable. For example, according to the FAQs, there are examples of  Pinnacle class ships that should have allowed casino,smoking, but they did not. Perhaps this is part of a transition out of stricter Covid rules.

 

 

 

[0106]

@edgeeCurrently on the Rotterdam, smoking is allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

 

Friend on Nieuw Statendam two weeks ago, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

 

Friend on Koningsdam over New Years, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

[KroozNut]

24 minutes ago, 0106 said:

@edgeeCurrently on the Rotterdam, smoking is allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

 

Friend on Nieuw Statendam two weeks ago, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

 

Friend on Koningsdam over New Years, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino.

 

It is important to point out that while smoking is allowed in the designated smoking area on those ships, it is only on one side of that open air deck. The opposite side is non-smoking, so it's not that smoking is allowed at the entire Seaview pool area. 

[Ipeeinthepools]

1 hour ago, KroozNut said:

 

It is important to point out that while smoking is allowed in the designated smoking area on those ships, it is only on one side of that open air deck. The opposite side is non-smoking, so it's not that smoking is allowed at the entire Seaview pool area. 

When the wind blows, there isn’t much of a difference between sides

[KroozNut]

30 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

When the wind blows, there isn’t much of a difference between sides

Oh, but there really is a difference. Because on an open ship deck at sea underway, the wind always blows aft, not sideways.

Edited 11 hours ago by KroozNut

[Ipeeinthepools]

6 hours ago, KroozNut said:

Oh, but there really is a difference. Because on an open ship deck at sea underway, the wind always blows aft, not sideways.

The wind very seldom blows directly aft.  You need to factor in the prevailing wind and the combination determines the effective wind direction.  The structure around the open deck area also creates swirling winds which send the smoke everywhere.  Port days are usually the worst.  It is not usual for the secondhand smoke to affect most of the Seaview pool area.