robotpony Posted January 20 #651 Share Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said: I think the real test is if there is smoking in the Casino on Pinnacle Class ships. Anyone have any experience? There was smoking in the casino on the NS in the Caribbean (2022). There was no smoking in the casino on the Koningsdam, Vancouver/Alaska roundtrip (2022). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELENPSL Posted January 21 #652 Share Posted January 21 Just off the Nieuw Statendam last week. They do allow smoking in a small area of the casino. Helen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobnJaci Posted January 28 #653 Share Posted January 28 As a regular cigar smoker I understand the outdoor area on NA. However lighting a cigar is a process in the wind. Additionally, ashtrays for cigarettes don't work well for cigars. How hard would it to be to buy a couple cigar ashtrays ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunseeker62 Posted Friday at 04:16 AM #654 Share Posted Friday at 04:16 AM On 1/28/2023 at 1:46 PM, BobnJaci said: As a regular cigar smoker I understand the outdoor area on NA. However lighting a cigar is a process in the wind. Additionally, ashtrays for cigarettes don't work well for cigars. How hard would it to be to buy a couple cigar ashtrays ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted yesterday at 03:19 PM #655 Share Posted yesterday at 03:19 PM On 12/28/2022 at 6:03 AM, 0106 said: Rotterdam Smoking Policy Sea View Bar area Casino-smoking is allowed in designated areas for active players only and only when outside of 12NM from the Netherlands @horseymikeThe Frequently Asked Questions section of the HAL site will provide answers to most of the questions you have been asking. https://www.hollandamerica.com/en_US/faq.html You make a generally good point, but lately it seems like info you are linking to is not always up to date./reliable. For example, according to the FAQs, there are examples of Pinnacle class ships that should have allowed casino,smoking, but they did not. Perhaps this is part of a transition out of stricter Covid rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0106 Posted 14 hours ago #656 Share Posted 14 hours ago @edgeeCurrently on the Rotterdam, smoking is allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. Friend on Nieuw Statendam two weeks ago, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. Friend on Koningsdam over New Years, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted 13 hours ago #657 Share Posted 13 hours ago 24 minutes ago, 0106 said: @edgeeCurrently on the Rotterdam, smoking is allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. Friend on Nieuw Statendam two weeks ago, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. Friend on Koningsdam over New Years, smoking allowed at the Seaview pool and in the casino. It is important to point out that while smoking is allowed in the designated smoking area on those ships, it is only on one side of that open air deck. The opposite side is non-smoking, so it's not that smoking is allowed at the entire Seaview pool area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted 12 hours ago #658 Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, KroozNut said: It is important to point out that while smoking is allowed in the designated smoking area on those ships, it is only on one side of that open air deck. The opposite side is non-smoking, so it's not that smoking is allowed at the entire Seaview pool area. When the wind blows, there isn’t much of a difference between sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted 11 hours ago #659 Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said: When the wind blows, there isn’t much of a difference between sides Oh, but there really is a difference. Because on an open ship deck at sea underway, the wind always blows aft, not sideways. Edited 11 hours ago by KroozNut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipeeinthepools Posted 5 hours ago #660 Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, KroozNut said: Oh, but there really is a difference. Because on an open ship deck at sea underway, the wind always blows aft, not sideways. The wind very seldom blows directly aft. You need to factor in the prevailing wind and the combination determines the effective wind direction. The structure around the open deck area also creates swirling winds which send the smoke everywhere. Port days are usually the worst. It is not usual for the secondhand smoke to affect most of the Seaview pool area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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