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Other than living in a bubble at home infection is always a risk when sharing space with lots of others be it on land, sea or in the air.

 

Like many others we take the obvious precautions including cabin wipe down, we wash our hands frequently, we avoid public restrooms where possible and use the sanitizer before entering venues. The only time we caught Noro was in Alaska....We had always thought we would be more at risk in warmer climates.

 

Also like others if we did see guests handling food we would report. This has only been experienced by us once in suite lounge on an RC cruise a young girl was picking up every pastry to see which one had the most fruit in it whilst her mother watched!?!? This isn’t something we have particularly seen to be an issue on Celebrity. We are always very reassured to see the constant wiping down of handrails and cleaning of the lifts.

 

I would never comment about a guest entering Oceanview without using sanitizer....I would assume they had an issue with it and had, or were about to use, their own alternative. I sincerely hope that the guests who just “don’t use and don’t care” are a very small minority....

 

Over many years of travel we have walked into restaurants and then walked out even faster when it was clear to see that health/hygiene was not up to standard. Whilst I am fully aware we cannot see these little bugs I have never seen a dirty Celebrity ship. I genuinely feel the cruise lines do take the issues seriously and are genuinely doing all they can to promote safer cruising. Whilst I know I could catch something on a cruise I think I could be more at risk in many land based restaurants.

 

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I sanitize my hands before entering the buffet with washy washy. After getting my food at the buffet I go to the restroom and wash my hands.  When eating a chip, French fry or other type of finger food, I touch in the same area when I pick it up and don't eat the area where my fingers were.  This is probably not all germ free but I do my best

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This is what I take on my cruises:  Clorox CLO 02174 Bleach-Free Hand Sanitizer, 2.0 FL OZ, Contains Hand Moisturizers, Alcohol-Based

 

The C.D.C. says that as a means of preventing norovirus infection, alcohol-based sanitizers can be used “in addition” to hand washing, never as a substitute. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 2:38 PM, jsf said:

I'm wondering why this seems to hit cruise ships so often,is it the confined space or because of pax from so many different countries or what?

J.

 

Neuro doesn't just hit cruise ships and this has absolutely nothing about people being from different countries. This type of event hits the news because people are on vacation expecting a good time, and if they get sick they are disappointed they become vocal. Schools, large office buildings, even hospitals get hit with neurovirus because these locations have lots of people in contained areas who share use of bathrooms, cafeterias, handrails, doorknobs, etc. What this comes down to is that there are lots of people who are more concerned for themselves than for others. They just don't see themselves as being potential carriers of a virus, so they don't take appropriate precautions. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 2:42 PM, bikerunner said:

I remember my last cruise watching this lady in OVC use her hands to grab bacon/sausage among other things.  It really don't find it shocking anymore, I worked ran hotels/restaurants for over 20 years.  I just let one of the workers know to remove those trays and they did promptly. 

It may be forward of me, but when I see people touching food in OVC I let whomever is attending that station know that someone touched the food and put it back, so please remove it from the buffet station. I try to do this within earshot of the person who was doing the touching. The attendance always takes care of it. 

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On 1/15/2019 at 8:17 AM, tkere said:

You actually only need about 20 seconds of hand washing but the key is friction, rub the soap between your hands.

The cabin steward uses the same rag to clean cabins, Saturngrl do you lysol everyday? 

 

While wiping down the cabin on Reflection this past Dec, cabin steward Green came in. He stated they use sanitation cleaner not only in the cabins but all over the ship. I asked does this kill germs and bacteria, he said yes. We still finished wiping down the rest of cabin and everything we would touch. We wipe the sea pass card on a daily basis as well. 

 

We consistently wash our hands and try to always have sanitizer with us, especially at the buffet. I have witnessed people sneezing into their hands then grab tongs or food directly from trays. That’s why we get all our food first then go wash hands or sanitize down. 

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use your elbow to hit the elevator buttons and the public washroom buttons, try not to touch railings, when filling up you drink at the machine in the cafeteria use a napkin so you don't directly touch the button or lever, try not to touch salt and pepper shakers or condiment dispensers with bare hands.  Most of us wash our hands and use hand sanitizer before we go into eat but forget that once in there, people cough and sneeze into their hands or directly onto the serving tools. Somebody coughs into their hand, picks up a menu and carries on with their day.  Next person comes in, picks up the menu, makes an order and then picks up their bread with their freshly contaminated hand.  Just keep in mind that just because people enter with clean hands doesn't mean their hands stay clean.

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Over Sanitizing is creating more outbreaks and sickness!!! Wash your hands when you need too and for me Ketel One Vodka :)

 I manage a fair amount of amount of young sales people 25-35 year old's who are constantly using the hand sanitizer's and oddly enough are always getting sick??? Plenty of info to back this up, and I would venture to say that the widespread outbreaks have been getting more prevalent over the years???  Just my .02 cents worth...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-hand-sanitizer-give-people-a-false-sense-of-security/

 

 

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On 1/20/2019 at 2:42 PM, Loanrngr said:

Over Sanitizing is creating more outbreaks and sickness!!! Wash your hands when you need too and for me Ketel One Vodka :)

 I manage a fair amount of amount of young sales people 25-35 year old's who are constantly using the hand sanitizer's and oddly enough are always getting sick??? Plenty of info to back this up, and I would venture to say that the widespread outbreaks have been getting more prevalent over the years???  Just my .02 cents worth...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-hand-sanitizer-give-people-a-false-sense-of-security/

 

 

well, I think you'd have a lot of convincing to do to, especially in the medical profession where doctors and nurses routinely use hand sanitizer before visiting with a patient.   I don't think its use should be down played.  As the article you posts says, they remove common cold, strep, and even flu.  If you've ever watched people in public washrooms you'll know that most people don't adequately wash their hands and some don't wash hands at all.   I also know that many of those people also don't use hand sanitizers which mean they could be walking petri dishes.  I will continue to use hand sanitizer in addition to washing my hands (I'm very thorough) because I know those people exist.

 

Last year I was in the grocery store produce section and I watched a women open a container of raspberries, poke them wit her finger the close the lid and put it back.  She did this wit several containers.  Raspberries are hard to wash and best you can do it run water over them unlike fruit with a peel which you can wash wit soap and water.  As far as I'm concerned her poking each raspberry is the same as sticking her finger directly in a stranger's mouth.  I don't have faith that her hands were clean.. not after hanging not the grocery cart handle.   So two things i picked up rom that: people are disgusting and don't buy raspberries. 

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It’s not just cruise ships.

 

I spent last weekend at Atlantic City casinos for Superbowl and caught Norovirus. I’m pretty sure I got it from touching slot machine screens and not washing my hands well enough before eating. 

I just had the worst 3 1/2 days of my life. But I lost 10 pounds so there’s that. I’ll fit better in my bathing suit on my March cruise. 

 

I empathize with anyone who gets Norovirus on a cruise. I missed 3 days of work. It would be much worse, locked in a cabin, missing vacation. 

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On 1/20/2019 at 1:42 PM, Loanrngr said:

Over Sanitizing is creating more outbreaks and sickness!!! Wash your hands when you need too and for me Ketel One Vodka 🙂

 I manage a fair amount of amount of young sales people 25-35 year old's who are constantly using the hand sanitizer's and oddly enough are always getting sick??? Plenty of info to back this up, and I would venture to say that the widespread outbreaks have been getting more prevalent over the years???  Just my .02 cents worth...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-hand-sanitizer-give-people-a-false-sense-of-security/

 

 

My thoughts exactly...creates weak immune systems...eat more dirt. 🙂

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On 1/15/2019 at 3:37 PM, uktog said:

See post 28, to repeat the detail there it can only be used every 6 hours

Hopefully this helps you understand why I have the difficulties I have and whilst your solution works for you it does not for me.  

 

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

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I also know that having a great immune system is so important...all my years in education have kept it working optimally, but then I am also a gym rat, and try to eat healthy foods too...as one cannot be too healthy...I bring those school germs home too, so my DH also has a great immune system...and yes, I take precautions onboard too, both for me and others!

 

 

 

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