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Maybe they want to discourage room service. I agree with a previous poster, it is a move to get those sailing in lower cost cabins out and about, spending money. I spend more money when I feel valued, my purse strings get tight when I feel taken advantage of.

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I for one want the chair. I'll be dragging deck chairs in and out of the balcony to compensate. I'm not thrilled with that. I'm also not thrilled with losing the ottomans which we used not only for our feet, but so those traveling with us could sit out with us. I guess that means the desk chair will also do some traveling.

 

We cruise so dh can relax. Maybe I need to think about blow up furniture when I travel princess!, (kidding folks!).

 

More seriously, I've just booked my first Celebrity cruise. It is a long way out. We'll see what happens down the road with both lines. *shrug*

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12 hours ago, southerngoose said:

I wish they could have an option to choose to have the chair, in advance, similar to how they allow you to choose whether the beds are together or separate.    I'm sure there are happy people because the chair is gone.   I want the comfy chair!

Schlepping chairs from storage to cabins and back again is way different than changing bed configuration.  Or, for that matter, bathrobes as an option.  Storage on ship is limited, as is the steward's time.

 

Perhaps a better option:  the standard in balconys and below would not have the chair (which seems to be Princess' direction) ... but a new category could be available, with a limited number of such cabins with chairs.  And the chair would be part of the description.  Princess  could call these cabins Chair Class ... unless that would be confused with Club Class.  Maybe Princess could even bundle other stuff with the chair (similar to Club Class but with different offerings) and $ell Chair Class for more $$$).

 

Just trying to help Princess enhance their revenue stream 

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4 minutes ago, pms4104 said:

Perhaps a better option:  the standard in balconys and below would not have the chair (which seems to be Princess' direction) ... but a new category could be available, with a limited number of such cabins with chairs.  And the chair would be part of the description.  Princess  could call these cabins Chair Class ... unless that would be confused with Club Class.  Maybe Princess could even bundle other stuff with the chair (similar to Club Class but with different offerings) and $ell Chair Class for more $$$).

 

Just trying to help Princess enhance their revenue stream 

 

I would be ok to upgrade to a balcony for a SOFA!   But not for a chair.   I find it ridiculous to have to go up to a mini suite to get a mini sofa.   Nevertheless...I still liked my other offer - an indoor sanctuary with a comfortable mini sofa or recliner or even a poofy arm chair.   I'd pay $500 for a week for a private indoor area with poofy chair, a small table, ipad holder would be a bonus.   Serenity steward optional...but a nearby bar and munchies plus nearby bathroom would be helpful.    That way, they can have their revenue, tiny cabins and I can get my sofa at a reasonable cost.

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1 hour ago, southerngoose said:

I find it ridiculous to have to go up to a mini suite to get a mini sofa.  

 

I've had a mini-sofa (i.e., love seat) in an Owners Suite on the Royal Princess but in most, if not all, of the mini-suites we've been in (including the Ruby last summer and the Crown in December) we've had a 3 cushion sofa.

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simply drag a chair from one of the public spaces into your cabin and see how fast Princess decides to put the barrel chair back.

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On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 10:15 AM, PrincessLuver said:

 

They often use the term "for your safety" when they make unannounced changes to cabins. 

When they took foot stools and loungers off the balconies it was "for passenger safety."

 

More room for what?  To do yoga?

 

We take 20 and 30 days cruises and there can be periods of time, because of bad weather, that balconies and other outdoor areas are not useable.  I hope they have enough places for 3,000 plus passengers to sit in the public area because they removed chairs from their staterooms.  

 

Princess seems to be getting sneakier and less transparent in all of the cost cutting measures it is doing that IMHO will not enhance my cruise experience on Princess.

 

They might as well take out the toilet seats so the room stewards have to spend less time cleaning.....everyone knows how to squat I think!!

 

A bit of a safety issue for me-poor balance. I do use a Rollator for assistance in walking safely, which has a seat that is reasonably comfortable to sit on, just a bit hard to get back onto my feet, but an option for me. I won't be cruising until February 2020, the 3 night out of Sydney in an Inside stateroom. Will be interesting to see the changes from the Handicapped Accessible Window Suite on the Golden Princess.

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5 hours ago, capriccio said:

 

I've had a mini-sofa (i.e., love seat) in an Owners Suite on the Royal Princess but in most, if not all, of the mini-suites we've been in (including the Ruby last summer and the Crown in December) we've had a 3 cushion sofa.

In Royal-Class ships the Deluxe Balcony cabins have a loveseat size (2 cushions) couch.  That worked great for us whenever the weather wasn’t conducive to spending time on the balcony...a comfortable view of the scenery. 

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5 hours ago, jdechter said:

simply drag a chair from one of the public spaces into your cabin and see how fast Princess decides to put the barrel chair back.

Good luck.  I hope you well.

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Just imagine 100 passengers dragging 100 chairs from a lounge or buffet area back to their cabin. Would Princess notice?

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1 hour ago, maggie777 said:

Just imagine 100 passengers dragging 100 chairs from a lounge or buffet area back to their cabin. Would Princess notice?

I have a mental picture of all the people waiting at the lifts with the chairs.... LOL

 

Cheers Don

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18 minutes ago, getting older slowly said:

I have a mental picture of all the people waiting at the lifts with the chairs.... LOL

 

Cheers Don

OMG ...lol I get dirty looks from people because I appear healthy ...make me walk up a flight or two of stairs you will be calling for medics! Imagine if I was dragging a chair behind me......lol Not that I could!

 I know you are joking 🙂

 

 

Edited by Reader0108598

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Interestingly I have been looking at Balcony cabin layout of all different ship and not just princess.

 

A couple of points princess like desks and large wardrobe... which most of the others don't do.

 

Also it the layout in general.... the desk is bad news.... other lines cupboards and tv with small sofa opposite... the extra length comes from not having a walk in wardrobe but one with doors....

 

Even in the latest ships,   the Enchanted.......... princess has not change the cabin layout......   It is like they are stuck in their ways....  not maximizing the living area to have a sitting area....   Particularly in these days when the cabin are built in modular format......

 

So it this part of the Princess Feel ??????    I agree leave the chair and put the table in wardrobe..

 

I think a small sofa with table would be better than a desk.. ( when do you write letters now a days )  then a nice big TV on the wall.....

 

Cheers Don

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21 minutes ago, getting older slowly said:

Interestingly I have been looking at Balcony cabin layout of all different ship and not just princess.

 

A couple of points princess like desks and large wardrobe... which most of the others don't do.

 

Also it the layout in general.... the desk is bad news.... other lines cupboards and tv with small sofa opposite... the extra length comes from not having a walk in wardrobe but one with doors....

 

Even in the latest ships,   the Enchanted.......... princess has not change the cabin layout......   It is like they are stuck in their ways....  not maximizing the living area to have a sitting area....   Particularly in these days when the cabin are built in modular format......

 

So it this part of the Princess Feel ??????    I agree leave the chair and put the table in wardrobe..

 

I think a small sofa with table would be better than a desk.. ( when do you write letters now a days )  then a nice big TV on the wall.....

 

Cheers Don

Agree with you on the desk, not really needed these days and the space could be better utilized.

 

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Sorry that I called it a desk......

 

But the point was.... would people prefer a thingie with a chair to sit at.... or a sofa with table...

 

I have seen that in a suite they have a desk and a dressing table complete with lit mirror....

 

Cheers Don...

 

 

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5 hours ago, getting older slowly said:

 

I think a small sofa with table would be better than a desk.. ( when do you write letters now a days )  then a nice big TV on the wall.....

 

Cheers Don

 

5 hours ago, TriumphGuy said:

Agree with you on the desk, not really needed these days and the space could be better utilized.

 

 

The desk is essential to me. I use it for my computer. I also use it to write notes for myself. I leave essential items on it overnight. I keep the Patter on it. etc.

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Would be nice to read about Princess ADDING amenities instead of taking things away...chair - table - Happy Hour - foot stools - 

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16 minutes ago, socmft said:

Would be nice to read about Princess ADDING amenities instead of taking things away...chair - table - Happy Hour - foot stools - 

Totally agree ...none of the cruise lines are ,  I am elite on Princess and just booked a cruise on Royal Caribbean yesterday! They are all giving us less and less reason to be loyal to one brand! Not a bad thing for us I guess! Good news is I get to go to Cuba! 🙂

 

Edited by Reader0108598

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Was informed by our RS on Grand that they are in the process of removing the barrel chairs here and have been doing so gradually for the last several weeks. Said he’s unsure when they will all be removed. 

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"For safety" ???  Didn't realize the hazardous situation we were in when we put our feet up to relax and watch a sunset or just the passing ocean scene.  Perhaps someone tripped on one which resulted in a lawsuit and the lawyers entered the stateroom furnishing scene and the bean counters panicked.  After 15 Princess cruises we now learn of potential hazards sitting comfortably on our balcony.  Thank you Princess for making us safe.🙄

 

Seasoned cruisers will notice, but the newbies (the Princess future market) will never know what nice touches they missed.

 

This is a disappointment.

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4 minutes ago, ExDean said:

 

 

Seasoned cruisers will notice, but the newbies (the Princess future market) will never know what nice touches they missed.

They will in 5 years when all the things they like now will be completely gone. And then they will know what you are referring to.

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Would be nice to read about Princess ADDING amenities instead of taking things away...chair - table - Happy Hour - foot stools - 


 

- embarkation lunch tenderloins and salmon - 

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On 2/16/2019 at 10:51 AM, capriccio said:

 

I've had a mini-sofa (i.e., love seat) in an Owners Suite on the Royal Princess but in most, if not all, of the mini-suites we've been in (including the Ruby last summer and the Crown in December) we've had a 3 cushion sofa.

 

Our mini-suites have always had full size (3 cushion) sofas.  

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