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Celebrity has ordered a fifth Edge Class Ship.  Here's the press release.

 

Celebrity Cruises Orders Fifth Edge-Class Vessel

MIAMI, April 11, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL) today announced that it has entered into an agreement with French shipbuilder Chantiers de l'Atlantique to order a fifth Edge-class ship for delivery in the fall of 2024.

"Edge class made an immediate hit with Celebrity Cruises guests and is a state-of-the-art example of technical excellence and elegant design," said Richard D. Fain, Chairman and CEO, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.  "We can't wait to build the next one."

"Celebrity Edge has delighted our guests and affirmed Celebrity Cruises as the leading modern luxury brand.  Chantiers de l'Atlantique has been a brilliant partner and we look forward to creating another amazing vessel with them," said Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, President and CEO, Celebrity Cruises.

"We are really proud and happy to have built such an outstanding relationship with our customer, based on mutual trust and driven by the spirit of innovation," said Laurent Castaing, General Manager, Chantiers de l'Atlantique.  "After the four Millennium-class ships at the beginning of 2000's and the four Edge-class ships, this is the ninth ship ordered by Celebrity Cruises at our shipyard and it will be the 24th vessel built by Chantiers de l'Atlantique and operated by RCL.  This is a real testimony of the exceptional level of cooperation we reached together."

Celebrity Edge was delivered in 2018.  Three other Edge-class ships were ordered earlier and are scheduled for delivery in 2020, 2021 and 2022.  This new order is contingent upon financing.

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL) is a global cruise vacation company that controls and operates four global brands: Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises, Azamara Club Cruises and Silversea Cruises.  We are also a 50% joint venture owner of the German brand TUI Cruises and a 49% shareholder in the Spanish brand Pullmantur Cruceros.  Together these brands operate a combined total of 61 ships with an additional 15 on order as of March 31, 2019.  They operate diverse itineraries around the world that call on all seven continents.  Additional information can be found on www.rclcorporate.com. 


 

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I guess this will disappoint all of the Edge bashers on this site.

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22 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

I guess this will disappoint all of the Edge bashers on this site.

Yes, but that will not deter them from posting about this five (5) years from now... LOL

 

bon voyage

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It could be a good thing. With more berths to fill it might eventually soften high Edge pricing. 

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39 minutes ago, Mynki said:

It could be a good thing. With more berths to fill it might eventually soften high Edge pricing. 

 

Hopefully, there are so many new ships ordered and being built, they have to keep up with the competition.

 

i have not sailed on Edge and probably won’t for health reasons but I would like to make a comment regarding the bashing remarks. I go back to Celebrity’s first new build Horizon and I have never read as severe negative remarks regarding a new ship as I have for Edge. Not even close.

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Does Edge Class dictate Infinite Verandas?

 

Since the fundamental structural design of the Edge class was altered to allow IVs, can traditional balconies be retrofitted into the Edge structure?  My guess is no, but I really don't know.

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3 minutes ago, dkjretired said:

 

Hopefully, there are so many new ships ordered and being built, they have to keep up with the competition.

 

i have not sailed on Edge and probably won’t for health reasons but I would like to make a comment regarding the bashing remarks. I go back to Celebrity’s first new build Horizon and I have never read as severe negative remarks regarding a new ship as I have for Edge. Not even close.

Some of the feedback I've seen on here and on Facebook groups is pretty bad.  IV is however a deal breaker for me. I can book an SV or a suite I know. But the former restricts access to Luminae or Blu etc and suite pricing is hard to justify when you compare the costs to genuine 6* lines or true luxury land vacations. 

One Med Apex cruise I looked at is running at £700 ($910) per person per night for a sky suite 3. 

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6 minutes ago, Mynki said:

Some of the feedback I've seen on here and on Facebook groups is pretty bad.  IV is however a deal breaker for me. I can book an SV or a suite I know. But the former restricts access to Luminae or Blu etc and suite pricing is hard to justify when you compare the costs to genuine 6* lines or true luxury land vacations. 

One Med Apex cruise I looked at is running at £700 ($910) per person per night for a sky suite 3. 

100%.  Never ever would I book an IV so sadly as much as the rest of the ship looks great, we'd book elsewhere.

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Anyone care to bet that the IV (as we know them now) and the Magic Carpet will feature on this ship?  If the IV remain I think they will be substantially re-engineered

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Since I want a true balcony and not an IV we are restricted to the S class or go back to Holland America for newer ships.   Not a problem because we really enjoyed our last HAL trip 2 years ago and are looking at them again.  Also, I agree with poster Mynki concerning the cost of the Edge compared to other high class lines.

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I noticed the promo this morning giving 4 perks to Edge Europe Sailings.  Interesting they think it's such a  hit if they keep having to add promo after promo to fill her.

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33 minutes ago, mnocket said:

Does Edge Class dictate Infinite Verandas?

 

Since the fundamental structural design of the Edge class was altered to allow IVs, can traditional balconies be retrofitted into the Edge structure?  My guess is no, but I really don't know.

 

I think more regular balconies can be put on the Edge class since there are already a few way forward and towards the aft on the Edge 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Cruise Junky said:

I noticed the promo this morning giving 4 perks to Edge Europe Sailings.  Interesting they think it's such a  hit if they keep having to add promo after promo to fill her.

 

I  had to do a NRD to get all 4, so I hope that is still the case or Grrrrr🙃  My choice; my dollar!  What ever happened to the saying..."a nickel more and you go first class?"

Edited by Lastdance

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25 minutes ago, mnocket said:

Does Edge Class dictate Infinite Verandas?

 

Since the fundamental structural design of the Edge class was altered to allow IVs, can traditional balconies be retrofitted into the Edge structure?  My guess is no, but I really don't know.

No. The support structure is not there to allow a traditional balcony (door and window with support structure in between) to be opened completely. I am surprised by the very strong negative response to the IV concept compared to a "real" balcony. If the folding doors were designed to be air-tight, what is the real difference? The only one I see is privacy of the solid side walls vs. the non-privacy of the opaque panels which have gaps all around.  And stuff blows out of the traditional balcony, where you just have a gentle breeze in the IV. I know I'm biased, but done right, the IV has several advantages. The current design needs tweaks, not banishment from the Earth!

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4 minutes ago, twodjs said:

No. The support structure is not there to allow a traditional balcony (door and window with support structure in between) to be opened completely. I am surprised by the very strong negative response to the IV concept compared to a "real" balcony. If the folding doors were designed to be air-tight, what is the real difference? The only one I see is privacy of the solid side walls vs. the non-privacy of the opaque panels which have gaps all around.  And stuff blows out of the traditional balcony, where you just have a gentle breeze in the IV. I know I'm biased, but done right, the IV has several advantages. The current design needs tweaks, not banishment from the Earth!

 

I think the issue with the IV is the "feel".   Some people feel like they are sitting by an open window and some people feel like they are sitting on a balcony.  Both positions are valid.  It seems that people who feel one way have trouble understanding people who feel the other.

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48 minutes ago, DYKWIA said:

Anyone care to bet that the IV (as we know them now) and the Magic Carpet will feature on this ship?  If the IV remain I think they will be substantially re-engineered

I would think so. Replacing IV cabins with traditional balconies would be an admission that they got it wrong after massive marketing hype. I just cannot imagine them going back on the design. 

I think it will be interesting to see if the next generation of ships they build will have them. Or if any other line employs the same concept. 

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But now the big question begins, which M class ship goes first.

 

Going back to when they ordered the S class ships, a similar thing occurred. They ordered four ships and then awhile later ordered what turned out to be the Reflection with some major structural changes.

 

Some have mentioned about putting regular balconies on the ships being built.  I know nothing about structural changes but would like to point out what happened with the Century class ships. The Century came out with virtually no balconies however before Galaxy launched they made changes and almost all the outside cabins now had balconies. This was done pretty quickly.

Edited by dkjretired

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8 minutes ago, dkjretired said:

But now the big question begins, which M class ship goes first.

Is Constellation still up for sale? I know it was a year or so ago. 

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Even though we continually read harsh comments on the Edge we still reserved a sky suite in Dec.  We plan on forming our own opinion after our Edge experience. 

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1 hour ago, mnocket said:

 

I think the issue with the IV is the "feel".   Some people feel like they are sitting by an open window and some people feel like they are sitting on a balcony.  Both positions are valid.  It seems that people who feel one way have trouble understanding people who feel the other.

 My problem with it is that you can't use it and have the AC (or heater??) on at the same time...If they made it where the doors closed and allowed the AC to work, it would be a major improvement in my mind.

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7 minutes ago, dodger1964 said:

 My problem with it is that you can't use it and have the AC (or heater??) on at the same time...If they made it where the doors closed and allowed the AC to work, it would be a major improvement in my mind.

You would think that would be a fairly easy fix with a sensor on the door. 

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36 minutes ago, Mynki said:

Is Constellation still up for sale? I know it was a year or so ago. 

it is not and it was not.

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The problems with the AC probably won't be fixed in time with the Apex, but i believe can be with the future ships.

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7 minutes ago, Saab4444 said:

it is not and it was not.

What you mean is that you didn't know it was for sale and you missed the thread on these very boards with a link to the brokers website offering the vessel for sale. 😉

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