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just off the CP Saturday. was talking to some of the crew, and was told that over 1000 contractors! would board and be given rooms and food

free of charge, but that the bars would be open but they would have to purchase drinks

anyone know the WHOLE story

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negotiated into contract - no big deal, really - casino closed - may get to watch a production show practice ... or not

 

most likely cabins used for sleep, shower - doubt room service will be available, but maybe ... prolly buffets only open

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That is SOP for even a "routine" drydock simply involving paint/carpet/upholstery in the public rooms--that alone takes a shipful of extra crew. And in CB's case to get the necessary skilled engineering workers to come to Freeport for a month of dawn-to-dusk-plus, no-days-off hard labor they certainly have to include room and board; the bigwigs from the shipbuilders could be insisting on suites.

 

(I assume you do know that the reason for the long involved drydock is that major repairs to the propulsion system are necessary, yes?)

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It is normal for contractors to stay on board. Many cabin stewards work to clean cabins just like always. Waiters and others work. The bridge is still manned 24 hours monitoring the ship and watching for fire. Some bridge officers watch the workers for safety. Lots of welding and other dangerous work going on. On the Emerald, which is currently in dry dock the Wheelhouse Bar is open for contractors. On the Caribbean at least one of the bars will be assigned to them. One of the DR's remains in operation.

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Note: CP is Sea Princess. CB is Caribbean Princess. Not a big deal but...

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14 hours ago, skynight said:

It is normal for contractors to stay on board. Many cabin stewards work to clean cabins just like always. Waiters and others work. The bridge is still manned 24 hours monitoring the ship and watching for fire. Some bridge officers watch the workers for safety. Lots of welding and other dangerous work going on. On the Emerald, which is currently in dry dock the Wheelhouse Bar is open for contractors. On the Caribbean at least one of the bars will be assigned to them. One of the DR's remains in operation.

hopefully the contractors are only paying 'crew bar' prices ...

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Why does this surprise you? They need lodging and food while working.

 

A lot of times when working, ship's crew are teamed up to watch each contractor to make sure nothing goes wrong (such as when welding, etc...). By no means is this a vacation for contractors or for crew.

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The CB is actually on wet dock in Freeport, Bahamas. When work on the ship happens it's not fun for either the crew or the contractors. The A/C is on and off constantly, sometimes there is not even hot water, just luke warm, there is a lot of drilling noise, dust, and crew are engaged in a lot of safety operations. There is one bar open for contractors, different for crew. But whatever you think they are doing, it's definitely not a disco night every night. There are no production shows (the cast is sent home), no entertainment beside the crew bar activities and getting off the ship once in a while.

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Contractors stay aboard the ship since they are brought in to do a specific job in a record amount of time.  It is cheaper for the ship to provide room and board instead of paying contractors to stay ashore on the economy.  Anytime a contractor is brought in to do work for any company, the contract will include room and board along with travel expenses for the workers.  Companies have paid for my travel expenses to include room and board all the time when I was working.   This is nothing unusual and yes, crew is needed to keep the rooms clean, prepare and serve the food and run the bar in the evening.  Bar expenses are always the responsibility of the individual and not part of the contract.   

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One big reason the contractors are boarded on the ship is that the cruise line can control the "down time" of travel to and from the jobsite (a few hundred yards instead of miles), and meals (again no commute time).  They get more work in 12 hours this way instead of having to bus workers back and forth daily.

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On 4/15/2019 at 3:42 PM, carlp said:

just off the CP Saturday. was talking to some of the crew, and was told that over 1000 contractors! would board and be given rooms and food

free of charge, but that the bars would be open but they would have to purchase drinks

anyone know the WHOLE story

 

I'm not sure what your point is.  Are you unhappy that they get free room and board?  That they have to pay for their drinks?  What exactly?

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On 4/17/2019 at 12:56 PM, Kate P.C said:

The CB is actually on wet dock in Freeport, Bahamas. When work on the ship happens it's not fun for either the crew or the contractors. The A/C is on and off constantly, sometimes there is not even hot water, just luke warm, there is a lot of drilling noise, dust, and crew are engaged in a lot of safety operations. There is one bar open for contractors, different for crew. But whatever you think they are doing, it's definitely not a disco night every night. There are no production shows (the cast is sent home), no entertainment beside the crew bar activities and getting off the ship once in a while.

Drydock/Wetdock...........eventually it will be completed.   😉

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Dry dock/wet dock ?...what does this mean? What are they doing?  Upgrades to rooms? I see they are doing mechanical work. Is the ship in that rough of shape? Thanks for sharing.

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1 minute ago, liamur14 said:

Dry dock/wet dock ?...what does this mean? What are they doing?  Upgrades to rooms? I see they are doing mechanical work. Is the ship in that rough of shape? Thanks for sharing.

Dry dock means the ship is out of the water.  Wet dock means the ship is still floating in water.

The main purpose of the current shipyard visit is to replace a component of the propulsion system that will likely require cutting an access hole in the hull of the ship.  Other maintenance will be done as needed during the time in the shipyard.

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38 minutes ago, liamur14 said:

Dry dock/wet dock ?...what does this mean? What are they doing?  Upgrades to rooms? I see they are doing mechanical work. Is the ship in that rough of shape? Thanks for sharing.

This ship has had a problem with one of the engine propellers for over two years.  They are replacing it and that takes some time.  Long overdue;  The ship has not been able to maintain max speed for several years;  port of calls have been cut back by 30 min due to the ship not being able to sail at full power. How do I know this;  I was on this ship in Feb.  Everyone of our port times was shortened by 30 minutes; so the ship could make it to the next stop at a slower speed

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On 4/19/2019 at 9:06 PM, AF-1 said:

This ship has had a problem with one of the engine propellers for over two years.  They are replacing it and that takes some time.  Long overdue;  The ship has not been able to maintain max speed for several years;  port of calls have been cut back by 30 min due to the ship not being able to sail at full power. How do I know this;  I was on this ship in Feb.  Everyone of our port times was shortened by 30 minutes; so the ship could make it to the next stop at a slower speed

I was there for a month and a half and we ALWAYS sailed on time, never early, never late. 

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Kate P.C.  did you do Western Caribbean or Eastern.  I received an email with new itinerary six months prior to sailing

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We were on the Caribbean for 6 weeks in Jan and Feb. this year.  We had booked well over a year ahead.  Shortly after we received changes to the itinerary explaining the problems and the time changes that would be made to each voyage.  We received OBC for each voyage.

If you booked after the change you would not notice any itinerary difference. 

 

Some of the crew told me that during the dry dock period they do general labourer work such as moving out old furniture and carpet so that the contractors don't use up their costly time doing that kind of work.  I did not ask, but would assume Princess is topping up their salary due to loss of gratuities. 

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4 hours ago, Kate P.C said:

I was there for a month and a half and we ALWAYS sailed on time, never early, never late. 

Of course you sailed on time..........the cruise ports and times have been adjusted many moons ago.

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On 4/21/2019 at 12:48 AM, AF-1 said:

Kate P.C.  did you do Western Caribbean or Eastern.  I received an email with new itinerary six months prior to sailing

I did both. I see what you mean now.

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