STEAKHOUSE QUESTIONS

[ObstructedView2]

On 4/15/2019 at 9:45 PM, Cruisegirl6 said:

 

We just booked the Breeze yesterday for next month.  Its been awhile since I been on Carnival ship, question, can my elderly father in law wear nice shorts and a nice shirt to the steakhouse?  

 

 

23 hours ago, Cruisegirl6 said:

 

You know what, it doesn't matter, I am also going to dress in nice dress shorts, I made up my mind, its Carnival for goodness sakes!  I have beautiful rompers that I will wear, they look like dresses.

 

 

 

Why did you ask in the first place if you're going to ignore the responses & the dress code as well??

 

Sheesh.........

 

You have over 10,000 posts, surely it wasn't an attempt to increase your post count.

 

After 10,000 posts you had no clue at all where to locate an answer in regards to Carnivals dress code??? 

 

Something is not right.....

 

 

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Edited April 17, 2019 by ObstructedView2

[hockeyguru32]

1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said:

I assume your adult nephew can read?  You do not really need an explanation of the difference between a 12 year old and adult...do you?  If we keep relaxing the dress code, there wont be one soon....

I'm not condoning what he did was right. I assume a 12 year old parents can read as well. I'm sure you will agree a dress code is a dress code no matter what the age. If not then you have double standards. 

[StolidCruiser]

On 4/15/2019 at 9:45 PM, Cruisegirl6 said:

Hello,

 

We just booked the Breeze yesterday for next month.  Its been awhile since I been on Carnival ship, question, can my elderly father in law wear nice shorts and a nice shirt to the steakhouse?  

 

Didn’t you just get off the Elation a couple months ago?

[jimbo5544]

1 hour ago, hockeyguru32 said:

I'm not condoning what he did was right. I assume a 12 year old parents can read as well. I'm sure you will agree a dress code is a dress code no matter what the age. If not then you have double standards. 

LOL, well I have been accused of much worse here.... we can discuss my standards on another thread, but I think I would pass the muster on all accounts.

[jimbo5544]

2 hours ago, coevan said:

 

 

A.I.'s have no trouble enforcing their dress code. You are NOT eating at a restaurant requiring slacks, period. Don't you slacks on the same way you put on shorts? 

I agree... for some, even some we cruise with in our groups, the shorts is a rite of passage thing for vacations.  We would never wear shorts to any dinner....period.  

[AmBear]

On 4/16/2019 at 8:51 AM, Bookbug53 said:

Am I the only one that doesn't get this statement from Carnival? It says to follow the dress code for that evening and says shorts are NOT allowed if Cruise Casual.

 

Well this is Cruise Casual from Carnival's dress code: 

“Cruise Casual” Dress Code
Men: sports slacks, khakis, jeans, long dress shorts and collared polo shirts

 

I think Carnival needs to hire someone to proof read.

Maybe because in 100 plus cruise days last year, we've never got that notice, or remember it,,,

we always seen shorts in the steakhouse and in the MDR on casual nights!

We've even seen shorts in the MDR on 'dress up night'!-)

[AmBear]

On 4/16/2019 at 8:51 AM, Bookbug53 said:

Am I the only one that doesn't get this statement from Carnival? It says to follow the dress code for that evening and says shorts are NOT allowed if Cruise Casual.

 

Well this is Cruise Casual from Carnival's dress code: 

“Cruise Casual” Dress Code
Men: sports slacks, khakis, jeans, long dress shorts and collared polo shirts

 

I think Carnival needs to hire someone to proof read.

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by AmBear
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[AmBear]

On 4/16/2019 at 8:51 AM, Bookbug53 said:

Am I the only one that doesn't get this statement from Carnival? It says to follow the dress code for that evening and says shorts are NOT allowed if Cruise Casual.

 

Well this is Cruise Casual from Carnival's dress code: 

“Cruise Casual” Dress Code
Men: sports slacks, khakis, jeans, long dress shorts and collared polo shirts

 

I think Carnival needs to hire someone to proof read.

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by AmBear
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[Cairns Cruisers]

Well I can tell you, I'd rather be seated next to someone in shorts who's enjoying their meal and behaving respectfully

than being next to loud mouth people in "pants" who think everyone in the restaurant needs to listen them.

What offends you more?

Do you all crawl under the table to check what everyone is wearing?

A real first world problem this is isn't it?

 

 

[hockeyguru32]

15 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

I agree... for some, even some we cruise with in our groups, the shorts is a rite of passage thing for vacations.  We would never wear shorts to any dinner....period.  

I agree Jimbo, I am same way never wear shorts when dining. Suit and tie on elegant night as well.

[lottiegreen56]

On 4/16/2019 at 10:19 AM, krehberg said:

 

Maybe because Chops is more akin to Longhorn/Outback and the Carnival Steakhouse is more like Flemings/Ruth's Criss.

 

 

We think Chops is 10 fold better than the CCL experience, it's one of the things they nail to be honest. We've done steakhouses throughout the country as part of our jobs for the past 30+ years (he's a lobbyist for Ag industry and I used to do Ag Sales). 

 

More to your point regarding the dress codes, there's two problems with how they are done on CCL. First, they are too lax in enforcement in the MDR which makes people not think they take the dress codes seriously in the MDR and more to the point in other venues.

 

I also think the real problem is that they have dress codes for men and women separately, we are moving past these distinctions as a society and in fashion. Kicking out someone for wearing shorts because you assume they are a man is messed up in my opinion. We saw a family on our last cruise whose male presenting members all wore those Irish male skirts, including on formal night. It didn't affect us but I'd be pissed if we were a turned away due to dress code if they weren't

[jimbo5544]

28 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said:

 

 

We think Chops is 10 fold better than the CCL experience, it's one of the things they nail to be honest. We've done steakhouses throughout the country as part of our jobs for the past 30+ years (he's a lobbyist for Ag industry and I used to do Ag Sales). 

 

More to your point regarding the dress codes, there's two problems with how they are done on CCL. First, they are too lax in enforcement in the MDR which makes people not think they take the dress codes seriously in the MDR and more to the point in other venues.

 

I also think the real problem is that they have dress codes for men and women separately, we are moving past these distinctions as a society and in fashion. Kicking out someone for wearing shorts because you assume they are a man is messed up in my opinion. We saw a family on our last cruise whose male presenting members all wore those Irish male skirts, including on formal night. It didn't affect us but I'd be pissed if we were a turned away due to dress code if they weren't

You lost me at chops is ten fold better....do you actually eat in chops?  

[jimbo5544]

16 hours ago, AmBear said:

 

I guess you really wanted to make the point, posting it 3 times.... not sure which sailing you were on but each and every time (and we go to the SH at least once a cruise sometimes more) we receive a call and a card both mentioned the dress code.

[AmBear]

1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said:

I guess you really wanted to make the point, posting it 3 times.... not sure which sailing you were on but each and every time (and we go to the SH at least once a cruise sometimes more) we receive a call and a card both mentioned the dress code.

No, for some reason, likely operator error, it posted 3 times, didn't know how to delete the other 2 so I edited them to say nothing, best I could do!

As far as the sailings go, we cruised 12 different times on Carnival last year, and we don't ever remember getting this card. 

We've seen shorts in the steakhouse every time we've gone in there, I notice cause I always 'grudgingly' wear pants! I've often found the horrid smells of perfume, I'm allergic, to matter much more then whether someone wears shorts!

[Keys2Heaven]

Wear what you want (because you probably will anyway), but be prepared to change if the dress code is enforced for your dining venue. Nobody here can TELL you what to wear, but it has been talked about repeatedly in various threads over the years and is written down in black and white on Carnival's website. The information is out there.

Edited April 18, 2019 by Keys2Heaven

[jimbo5544]

2 hours ago, AmBear said:

No, for some reason, likely operator error, it posted 3 times, didn't know how to delete the other 2 so I edited them to say nothing, best I could do!

As far as the sailings go, we cruised 12 different times on Carnival last year, and we don't ever remember getting this card. 

We've seen shorts in the steakhouse every time we've gone in there, I notice cause I always 'grudgingly' wear pants! I've often found the horrid smells of perfume, I'm allergic, to matter much more then whether someone wears shorts!

It may depend on the ship (in terms of enforcement) but last 4 sailings we have seen some turned away, mainly because the bar we frequent is right across from the entrance.  

[SNJCruisers]

8 hours ago, lottiegreen56 said:

We saw a family on our last cruise whose male presenting members all wore those Irish male skirts, including on formal night. It didn't affect us but I'd be pissed if we were a turned away due to dress code if they weren't

Are the "Irish male skirts" you're referring to Scottish kilts?

A true Scotsman wearing full dress garb is dressier IMHO than the majority of what most men wear in the MDR in any mainstream cruise line.

[lottiegreen56]

9 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

You lost me at chops is ten fold better....do you actually eat in chops?  

 

Yes, have you? I don't think any steakhouse at sea is going to be able to compete with those on land due to the space and equipment advantages of those on land but Chops does a fine job imo. I wouldn't take a casino comp to eat at Carnival's, believe me I've turned it down several times. Not trying to be a "basher", CCL kicks Royal's butt on a lot of stuff, the steakhouse isn't it though.

 

1 hour ago, SNJCruisers said:

Are the "Irish male skirts" you're referring to Scottish kilts?

A true Scotsman wearing full dress garb is dressier IMHO than the majority of what most men wear in the MDR in any mainstream cruise line.

 

Yeah, wasn't trying to be disrespectful, didn't get much sleep last night and couldn't think of the name. I think you could make that argument about a lot of ethnic dress outfits but I don't think formal night in the MDR is the correct venue. My father in law is very active in his Tribe and I don't think it would be appropriate for him to come dressed in full native regalia (or practical to pack it all). Just my opinion, I'm a big fan of America as a melting pot and think people should love their cultures but there's also a time and a place for assimilation. 

[SNJCruisers]

8 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said:

 

 

 

Yeah, wasn't trying to be disrespectful, didn't get much sleep last night and couldn't think of the name. I think you could make that argument about a lot of ethnic dress outfits but I don't think formal night in the MDR is the correct venue. My father in law is very active in his Tribe and I don't think it would be appropriate for him to come dressed in full native regalia (or practical to pack it all). Just my opinion, I'm a big fan of America as a melting pot and think people should love their cultures but there's also a time and a place for assimilation. 

You're comparing apples and oranges if you're comparing full regalia dress of an American Indian versus a formal Scotsman's kilt.  I've seen the formal kilts as well as military dress whites on a groom in the MDR on Carnival during the older "formal nights", which have been replaced with "cruise elegant" nights, which slightly dumbs down the clothing requirements.

I would have to respectfully disagree with you if you feel that it's not appropriate for the MDR.

[jimbo5544]

19 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said:

 

Yes, have you? I don't think any steakhouse at sea is going to be able to compete with those on land due to the space and equipment advantages of those on land but Chops does a fine job imo. I wouldn't take a casino comp to eat at Carnival's, believe me I've turned it down several times. Not trying to be a "basher", CCL kicks Royal's butt on a lot of stuff, the steakhouse isn't it though.

 

 

Yeah, wasn't trying to be disrespectful, didn't get much sleep last night and couldn't think of the name. I think you could make that argument about a lot of ethnic dress outfits but I don't think formal night in the MDR is the correct venue. My father in law is very active in his Tribe and I don't think it would be appropriate for him to come dressed in full native regalia (or practical to pack it all). Just my opinion, I'm a big fan of America as a melting pot and think people should love their cultures but there's also a time and a place for assimilation. 

I have eaten at both and respectively disagree, in my view it is not close.  I might give a slight edge in ambiance to chops, but not the food.  That said it is a minor point.    I can agree on land options being better.  

[evandbob]

6 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

It may depend on the ship (in terms of enforcement) but last 4 sailings we have seen some turned away, mainly because the bar we frequent is right across from the entrance.  

 You're ignoring the fact that I and another poster have commented that the Steakhouse on 3 different ships recently tried a cruise casual night where shorts were acceptable.

I agree that it's been de riguer for long pants in the SH forever, and I always complied, np.  It's announced in the Fun Times when (if) the SH has one casual shorts allowed night.

[coevan]

52 minutes ago, lottiegreen56 said:

I don't think any steakhouse at sea is going to be able to compete with those on land due to the space and equipment advantages of those on land

 

 

This makes no sense. Are you saying a bigger restaurant is better? I guessing you never did the Behind the Scenes Tour. The Steakhouse kitchen is state of the art. Some of the best 5 star restaurant I have eaten are 1/2 the size of the Steakhouse. 

[Theosprey247]

Go naked.  That’ll show them. 

[jimbo5544]

50 minutes ago, evandbob said:

 You're ignoring the fact that I and another poster have commented that the Steakhouse on 3 different ships recently tried a cruise casual night where shorts were acceptable.

I agree that it's been de riguer for long pants in the SH forever, and I always complied, np.  It's announced in the Fun Times when (if) the SH has one casual shorts allowed night.

What I was reaponding to was (I rhink anyways) is getting turned away due to attire.  I do not care if a couple of ships are slack or not about enforcement or why. I cannot remember a casual night in fun times but I prob was not looking either.  

[lottiegreen56]

3 hours ago, coevan said:

 

 

This makes no sense. Are you saying a bigger restaurant is better? I guessing you never did the Behind the Scenes Tour. The Steakhouse kitchen is state of the art. Some of the best 5 star restaurant I have eaten are 1/2 the size of the Steakhouse. 

 

No I'm saying bigger steakhouse kitchen is better because of the tools it takes to do a steakhouse properly. Need space to do butchery work, aging, refrigeration for the meat. Need space to prepare everything. Need space to store and prepare other foods. Ideally, a nice size wine or liquor storage facility. 

 

The star rating system is all marketing but I totally agree, in general the size of a restaurant isn't that important. But in the steakhouse area, where freshness and process are so important, you need space.