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Woke up thismorning to see Celebrity Edge moored in the Solent, waiting for her berth at Southampton.

What's with the bow?????

Looks like a WW1 battleship, the bow is vertical (in fact, it's actually furthest forward at the water-line) instead of a graceful flare.

Sorry, but IMHO seriously ugly. :classic_wacko:

 

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According to the web, that bow is more economical on fuel and less strain on the structure.

I'll take the experts' word for that, but it beggars the question why it's taken more than half-a-century to realise that the flare and bulbous underwater bow on every other cruise ship is poorer than the vertical knife-edge bow of a hundred years ago. 

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Will we next see a return of paddle-ships? :classic_biggrin:

 

JB :classic_smile:

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Thanks, this discussion was held during its' construction with a 40/40/20 split over like, dis-like or no opinion.

 

bon voayge

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Thankfully the funnel is there to remind us which is the bow and which is the stern.

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1 hour ago, John Bull said:

 

According to the web, that bow is more economical on fuel and less strain on the structure.

I'll take the experts' word for that, but it beggars the question why it's taken more than half-a-century to realise that the flare and bulbous underwater bow on every other cruise ship is poorer than the vertical knife-edge bow of a hundred years ago. 

 

Probably didn't take that long, but they were willing to wear the cost for a better appearance.

 

Now, the bean counters rule. 🙂

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35 minutes ago, Bo1953 said:

Thanks, this discussion was held during its' construction with a 40/40/20 split over like, dis-like or no opinion.

 

bon voayge

You are correct Bo...a  CC search will reveal many posts and pics and opinions.

Now that she is across the pond..there will be renewed interest and conversation. 

Hope to follow along...

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With that bow the Edge need a gun turret up front to scare all the other cruise ships.

 

It would make for a fun guest attraction too!💥

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1 hour ago, John Bull said:

Woke up thismorning to see Celebrity Edge moored in the Solent, waiting for her berth at Southampton.

What's with the bow?????

Looks like a WW1 battleship, the bow is vertical (in fact, it's actually furthest forward at the water-line) instead of a graceful flare.

Sorry, but IMHO seriously ugly. :classic_wacko:

 

Fullscreen-capture-14052019-092430-696x492.jpg

 

According to the web, that bow is more economical on fuel and less strain on the structure.

I'll take the experts' word for that, but it beggars the question why it's taken more than half-a-century to realise that the flare and bulbous underwater bow on every other cruise ship is poorer than the vertical knife-edge bow of a hundred years ago. 

Related image

 

Will we next see a return of paddle-ships? :classic_biggrin:

 

JB :classic_smile:

 

I disembarked Edge's Transatlantic yesterday morning in Southampton after having also spent a week aboard in the Caribbean during March...

 

http://www.rclcorporate.com/celebrity-edges-eye-pleasing-bow-goes-back-to-the-future/ 

 

While I'm not sure I would necessarily agree with Royal Caribbean's assessment that Edge's bow shape is eye-pleasing [and miss the helipad of her Celebrity sisters], it does--in combination with new technologies [among them, a system that generates a "carpet" of drag-reducing microbubbles]--create an consistently smooth ride through frequent high winds/periodic high seas...  Captain Costas indicated that Edge is proving to be extremely fuel efficient.

 

A fire boat--with water cannons creating quite a fountain effect--provided an escort into Southampton port early yesterday morning to welcome Edge to The UK for the first time...  It was quite a memorable experience; many thanks! 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bo1953 said:

Thanks, this discussion was held during its' construction with a 40/40/20 split over like, dis-like or no opinion.

 

bon voayge

 

Yes, it was definitely a mixed bag of opinions.  To each their own.  Personally I like the bow, but similar to food the design is subjective.  That's a good thing though, wouldn't life be boring if we all had the same tastes!

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AIDAperla and AIDAprima also have this bow.  With the red lips to distract your vision...

 

enhance

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41 minutes ago, Essiesmom said:

AIDAperla and AIDAprima also have this bow.  With the red lips to distract your vision...

 

enhance

 

Amazing what a bit of make-up can do. :classic_wink:

 

JB :classic_smile:

 

 

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Not a fan. But I had lunch yesterday with a ship historian (one who has lectured on Celebrity in the past) and he said he liked it.  Thereby proving that two people can disagree and still enjoy a Crab Louie Salad together.😁

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The Scarlet Lady will also feature the same look. I would imagine we will see many more of these over the years to come. 

 

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36 minutes ago, paulh84 said:

 

 

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When does the rest of the scaffolding come down? :classic_huh:

 

Celebrity Flora But IMHO on some ships that bow works very well :classic_smile:

 

JB :classic_wink:

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1 hour ago, John Bull said:

 

 

Celebrity Flora But IMHO on some ships that bow works very well :classic_smile:

 

JB :classic_wink:

I would seriously love to sail on Flora, but she is a wee bit out of my price range!

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4 hours ago, Xport said:

 

While I'm not sure I would necessarily agree with Royal Caribbean's assessment that Edge's bow shape is eye-pleasing [and miss the helipad of her Celebrity sisters], it does--in combination with new technologies [among them, a system that generates a "carpet" of drag-reducing microbubbles]--create an consistently smooth ride through frequent high winds/periodic high seas...  Captain Costas indicated that Edge is proving to be extremely fuel efficient.

 

Just curious as to one might miss the helipad?  Unless you have had to use the helipad I do not understand why it would impact one's cruise. 

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4 hours ago, Sascol said:

 

Just curious as to one might miss the helipad?  Unless you have had to use the helipad I do not understand why it would impact one's cruise. 

 

By invitation (sometimes to Cruise Critic Roll Call members, sometimes for new X cruisers, sometimes for higher level members of the Captain’s Club loyalty program, sometimes based upon level of accommodation though not necessarily  limited to suite guests, and sometimes for no apparent reason) and at the discretion of the Captain, Celebrity has often hosted sail-away and—less often—sail-in events on the helipads (occasionally more than once per cruise for a variety of non-repetitive guests) of Millennium-Class and Solstice-Class ships at particularly scenic ports when weather is favorable...

 

Surely not a necessity but a nice gesture affording great views from a very different perspective...  For  me, most memorable were sunset sail-aways from Venice, Sydney, Honolulu, San Francisco snd Stockholm...

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I remember the discusion about Edge´s bow well- I am was in the NOT LIKE Camp. Nothing agains the sharp bow- i rather like it, what i makes look so silly- IMO - is the shortness of the bow- i like the Aida bow much better.

It looks as if the constructor could not really decide sharp bow- or the usual one of her sisters. So they mixed it... not at all pleasing for the eye. But- well for me anyway so the whole Edge concept! Not appealing at all!

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13 hours ago, Essiesmom said:

AIDAperla and AIDAprima also have this bow.  With the red lips to distract your vision...

 

enhance


Now I think THAT'S ugly. Tacky to have a painted face on it.

I quite like the bow of Edge, however.

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In displacement (non planing) hulls, the longer the waterline length, the faster (and more efficient) it becomes. Unless the handing and sea keeping drawbacks outweigh this, I expect to see most new cruise ships designed this way.

 

I think they look weird, and those Aida ships... lipstick on a pig comes to mind!

 

 

 

 

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Yes, yes, quite,  the paintings on the bow, of which several cruise lines are so fond of these days- is TACKY! I ment to straight bow- this Virgin Thing seems not be my thing after all. I just checked how that thing looks for the inside- or shall look, when it deputs in 2020! 

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14 hours ago, CardRock said:

would seriously love to sail on Flora, but she is a wee bit out of my price range!

I’m afraid this seems to be the trend with all Celebrity ships, especially Edge and those that are being ‘Revolutionised.’

Someone has to pay for the £???m  Refurbs.

Sad to say, I don’t know how we are going to afford to cruise in the future, unless we look for late bookings.

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Yes, old battleships.....and 21st Cen ships: 

 

 

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