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I was looking for port schedules and went to the "Crew Centre" website and found this link at the top of the page, under "recent posts":-

 

http://crew-center.com/cruise-ship-hell

 

As mentioned it is one ex crew member's view and we have no way of knowing the full facts re crew conditions, either on this ship or any other ship for that matter.  Hence I am making no judgement myself, but thought this was worth sharing - it does make one think.

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There is no mention whether these matters were brought to CMV's attention and what ,if any, their response was.  Having travelled on the MV Columbus last year and spoken to a number of crew members both "upstairs and downstairs" they seemed, by and large, happy with their facilities although there was mention that their food was not particularly good and that, occasionally, it was supplemented by what passengers didn't eat.

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I would imagine that on older smaller ships the accommodation for crew and staff is not very good. When the ships were built it was probably considered fine but expectations change. Perhaps some previous owners have not maintained and upgraded crew and staff areas as perhaps they should. The food for passengers on CMV is fine but hardly gourmet so I cannot imagine what it is like for the crew. 

 

To some degree a lot probably depends on how high up the command structure you are, some roles will get passenger privileges. 

 

Best wishes, Stephen 

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On 6/15/2019 at 8:18 PM, stephen@stoneyard.co.uk said:

I would imagine that on older smaller ships the accommodation for crew and staff is not very good. When the ships were built it was probably considered fine but expectations change. Perhaps some previous owners have not maintained and upgraded crew and staff areas as perhaps they should. The food for passengers on CMV is fine but hardly gourmet so I cannot imagine what it is like for the crew. 

 

To some degree a lot probably depends on how high up the command structure you are, some roles will get passenger privileges. 

 

Best wishes, Stephen 

 

 

Hi i under stand how they fill, but my self and many crew members were so fortunate even in the early sixties, served  four years on the old RMS Queen mary as a commis waiter and ending up 1st class waiter though we were ten to a cabin had our own steward to clean and make our bunks,cost $1 a trip if i wanted to eat the same as 1st class paxs once again $1to one of the cooks from fillet minion to smoke salmon, and using new york every two weeks heath and safety was a must and cleanliness in the kitchen was top dollar, boat drill every week mine was a water tight door in the working ally way so it sound we were better of in the sixties with five trips  on and one trip of finished up on £37   12   6  a month  for 10 to 12 hours a day,

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She has been operating in Australia for the past few years, since her HAL time, and I don't think any Australian crew would put up with conditions such as that. I have my doubts about that whole report and some of the photos. I would suspect some are either fake or slightly "manufactured" by a crew member with an axe to grind. There's no way conditions would have been like that when she was sailing as a HAL vessel, and, as I said, Australian crew wouldn't have put up with such conditions either. Very dubious.

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On 6/19/2019 at 11:06 AM, Beejay4016 said:

Australian crew wouldn't have put up with such conditions either. Very dubious.

 

Gosh, Do you have Australian crew on ships operating out of Australia?

 

Ships operating from the UK all have nationalities such as Phillipino, Indonesian and Indian, with the senior officers and entertainment staff staff etc. being Generally European (Eastern or Western), along some other nationalities who have been promoted from other roles - but they eat and socialise in the passenger restaurants/bars or officers quarters and many have cabins in the passenger areas.

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20 hours ago, tring said:

 

Gosh, Do you have Australian crew on ships operating out of Australia?

 

Ships operating from the UK all have nationalities such as Phillipino, Indonesian and Indian, with the senior officers and entertainment staff staff etc. being Generally European (Eastern or Western), along some other nationalities who have been promoted from other roles - but they eat and socialise in the passenger restaurants/bars or officers quarters and many have cabins in the passenger areas.

All nationalities. Cabin crew are often Indonesian (Holland America Line have their own training school in Indonesia, and it shows in the fabulous level of service), or from other Asian countries. On the Astor, when she was here, a lot of those people - the stewards, serving staff, etc, were from Eastern Europe. There were also, with P&O Australia, certainly some Australians employed on board, other than officers, and we came across plenty of them when we did a P&O Australia cruise. I just don't believe those photographs are genuine; I believe the complainant has gone out of his/her way to smear the vessel and the company, possibly because of employment issues or whatever. I just don't buy it. Let's face it, the officers in charge of the kitchens would not allow standards such as those shown in the photographs. No, I don't buy it.

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