clo Posted June 25, 2019 #176 Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, ed01106 said: A Jewish male most certainly could wear a baseball cap for religious reasons on a cruise. Wearing a baseball cap meets the requirements of his religion and stands out less than a keppot. Would be too informal of a head covering to wear to the MDR for dinner (except maybe NCL) but lunch buffet it would make perfect sense. I guess I don't understand wearing hats indoors. Not to keep one warm. Not to protect from the sun. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed01106 Posted June 25, 2019 #177 Share Posted June 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, clo said: I guess I don't understand wearing hats indoors. Not to keep one warm. Not to protect from the sun. ??? I don’t get the expectation to remove hats indoors, I don’t remove my shirt or pants when I go inside. Different cultures have different traditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted June 25, 2019 #178 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, ed01106 said: I don’t get the expectation to remove hats indoors, I don’t remove my shirt or pants when I go inside. Different cultures have different traditions. So are there cultures that espouse baseball caps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarmag13 Posted June 25, 2019 #179 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/21/2019 at 9:27 PM, clo said: I'm very glad this topic was brought up. When we can make our reservations I will get a two-top regardless of the time. I am a card-carrying, foaming at the mouth liberal and would last maybe two minutes with some of those described. Thanks for bringing it up. It answered what I needed. Can we sit together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted June 25, 2019 #180 Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sugarmag13 said: Can we sit together? You bet you ass? Wanna go to S. America in December? https://www.oceaniacruises.com/south-america-cruises/rio-de-janeiro-to-buenos-aires-MNA191207/ Makes my heart go pitter patter 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarmag13 Posted June 25, 2019 #181 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, clo said: You bet you ass? Wanna go to S. America in December? https://www.oceaniacruises.com/south-america-cruises/rio-de-janeiro-to-buenos-aires-MNA191207/ Makes my heart go pitter patter 🙂 That looks amazing! Oh, how I wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted June 25, 2019 #182 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, ed01106 said: A Jewish male most certainly could wear a baseball cap for religious reasons on a cruise. Wearing a baseball cap meets the requirements of his religion and stands out less than a keppot. Would be too informal of a head covering to wear to the MDR for dinner (except maybe NCL) but lunch buffet it would make perfect sense. I happen to be Jewish although not very observant. However, I can assure you that an observant Jewish male would not wear a baseball cap because he did not want to be labeled as Jewish. You can be sure that he will always wear a Kippah. While wearing a baseball cap might satisfy the physical requirement of a head covering, it does not satisfy the moral requirement of the covering. I wonder how many synagogues you have visited and especially conservative or orthodox synagogues where men are wearing baseball caps instead of kippot. I am sure that you have observed that the Pope also always wears a head covering. When was the last time you saw him wearing a baseball cap or the Italian equivalent of a baseball cap. DON 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #183 Share Posted June 25, 2019 We dine as tables for two where possible unless we are with family and friends of course. For shared tables at breakfast and lunch, if politics comes up, we either do not partake or change the subject. If pushed, we will try and have a civilised discussion, and when that happens we find that the other parties quickly want to change the subject too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #184 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 8:56 AM, GUT2407 said: Gee there seem to be a lot of taboo subjects Not really, just people who don't like differences of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getting older slowly Posted June 25, 2019 #185 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Politics..... vote... why a politician might get in..... ( Strange Bedfellows Movie ) Change the subject..... Cheers Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted June 25, 2019 #186 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Would this tasteful little number be acceptable in the MDR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #187 Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, SteveH2508 said: Would this tasteful little number be acceptable in the MDR? Doubles as an alien brain wave shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #188 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/23/2019 at 7:31 AM, SteveH2508 said: It may well be, but my DW (who is American), was gobsmacked when she came to UK and saw how much more in-depth foreign news was reported in our UK newspapers. Same can be said for here in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted June 25, 2019 #189 Share Posted June 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Doubles as an alien brain wave shield. Also useful for transporting left over baked potatoes back to your room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #190 Share Posted June 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, SteveH2508 said: Also useful for transporting left over baked potatoes back to your room. with extra bacon bits, and sour cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K32682 Posted June 25, 2019 #191 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Not really, just people who don't like differences of opinion. Differences of opinion are fine but lines get crossed quickly when someone goes from expressing an opinion on a contentious subject to forcefully proselytizing their own views as the only righteous position. Although this thread began with a discussion of conservatives, the left-wing partisans are equally obnoxious particularly when an American liberal describes Trump voters or UK lefties offer an opinion on Brexit supporters. Edited June 25, 2019 by K32682 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted June 25, 2019 #192 Share Posted June 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, K32682 said: Differences of opinion are fine but lines get crossed quickly when someone goes from expressing an opinion on a contentious subject to forcefully proselytizing their own views as the only righteous position. Although this thread began with a discussion of conservatives, the left-wing partisans are equally obnoxious particularly when an American liberal describes Trump voters or UK lefties offer an opinion on Brexit supporters. Good observation - in far too many, an effective belief in freedom of speech is as rare as moderation in expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed01106 Posted June 25, 2019 #193 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, donaldsc said: I happen to be Jewish although not very observant. However, I can assure you that an observant Jewish male would not wear a baseball cap because he did not want to be labeled as Jewish. You can be sure that he will always wear a Kippah. While wearing a baseball cap might satisfy the physical requirement of a head covering, it does not satisfy the moral requirement of the covering. I wonder how many synagogues you have visited and especially conservative or orthodox synagogues where men are wearing baseball caps instead of kippot. I am sure that you have observed that the Pope also always wears a head covering. When was the last time you saw him wearing a baseball cap or the Italian equivalent of a baseball cap. DON I am also Jewish and as you are probably aware practices vary wildly form community to community and person to person. My friend and sons always wear a hat when they eat, although they doesn’t wear a hat 100% of the time, but always when they dovin. So it is an extension of always puting something on his head before praying and that he always says hamotzi before eating, and then leaves it on until he finishes saying Birkat Hamazon. In the MDR for dinner it wouldn’t be a baseball cap, mostly likely a kippot unless he is wearing a tux in which case it would be a top hat. But for lunch buffet he is wearing what ever hat he brought to the pool to prevent his bald spot from sunburn, most likely a baseball cap. And before you point out the buffet isn’t kosher, him and his family will eat vegetarian meals out of his home that were prepared on dishes that are not kosher. (And his kids will sometimes experiment with non Kosher food). I know my Rabbi (Reform) wears a baseball cap at our sukkot picnic and at the purim carnival. When I went to Israel with a multi-denominational Jewish group we were given baseball caps (with the orgs name) The holy sits required we cover our head, but didn’t care if it was a baseball cap or kippot. I don’t think I have ever seen the pope outside of a formal setting, so I don’t know what he wears informally, so I don’t think it is a good analogy. Nor what one Catholic does is relevant to Jewish practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatonDoolittle Posted June 25, 2019 #194 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, SteveH2508 said: Would this tasteful little number be acceptable in the MDR? You should post this over on the Princess board. They are gradually upgrading the technology on their ships to include benefits like bartenders knowing your drink preference as you walk up to the bar, cabin locks recognizing you and unlocking as you walk down the corridor, and much more. It's all done with a small Medallion that you keep somewhere on your person While many are embracing the change, there are some who threaten (angrily, I might add..) to wrap the device in layers of foil and hide it in their underwear drawer for the duration of the cruise. Or throw it overboard, planning to start a panicked hunt for the lost passenger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted June 25, 2019 #195 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, slidergirl said: Yeah, I had to work at the Front Desk that night, so I couldn't sneak in and listen to them. Well, just about everyone has open seating options now. I just don't like to start out at one table, get insulted or bored and have to move... No matter what anyone says to you, you are not obliged to respond. w ell. perhaps other than law enforcemenrt. If you do not rspond to the person goading a political convesafion, rthey will stop, Don't answer them Turn to someoone else at the table and ignore political person Edited June 25, 2019 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 25, 2019 #196 Share Posted June 25, 2019 While I avoid certain subjects like politics and religion at the dining table, it is more because of dining with strangers than with someone I know that can have a reasonable discussion without getting outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted June 26, 2019 #197 Share Posted June 26, 2019 19 hours ago, donaldsc said: I happen to be Jewish although not very observant. However, I can assure you that an observant Jewish male would not wear a baseball cap because he did not want to be labeled as Jewish. You can be sure that he will always wear a Kippah. While wearing a baseball cap might satisfy the physical requirement of a head covering, it does not satisfy the moral requirement of the covering. I wonder how many synagogues you have visited and especially conservative or orthodox synagogues where men are wearing baseball caps I am sure that you have observed that the Pope also always wears a head covering. When was the last time you saw him wearing a baseball cap or the Italian equivalent of a baseball cap. DON Since you asked https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2803125/the-pope-gets-new-hat-pontiff-tries-baseball-cap-general-audience-rome.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted June 26, 2019 #198 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 26, 2019 #199 Share Posted June 26, 2019 He doesn't know how to wear it properly. It is sort of just sitting on top, rather than over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted June 26, 2019 #200 Share Posted June 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: He doesn't know how to wear it properly. It is sort of just sitting on top, rather than over. Right - and a cool dude would have it on backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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