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1 minute ago, RRLLAL said:

 

The red frog pub is quite large and is the best place on the ship. It’s also the largest red frog pub in the fleet. 

The way they have the stage setup and only 3-4 regular tables/chairs it just felt smaller to me. Good luck getting to the bar with the large crowd that gather nears the stage when they have events . Red frog pub on other ships had better seating arrangements and seemed to be better designed to handle crowds. 

 

I can not sit in those high bar stool chairs due to health reasons and due to that it ruins my enjoyment of the space when they have events going on

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On 7/21/2019 at 9:52 AM, shof515 said:

 

The NY pier facilities can handle 4000 people. Norwegian does it weekly on their ship, the Norwegian Escape that has a capacity of about 4200 people or so. I also noticed on my Norwegian cruises out of NY,  Norwegian does a better job of crowd control and crowd management which is something Carnival lacks.

Just had a flawless embarkation.  By 11:30 they were on Zone 8.  Twenty minutes entry to cabin.  So much for the NY pier not being able to handle embarkation.  

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6 hours ago, Luckiestmanonearth said:

You missed my point .  I agree they all do it but only a select few have the “customer comes first” mentality like Celebrity.

 

You can’t possibly keep cramming thousands of passengers into tight common area spaces and have them constantly wait in long lines and expect they’ll keep coming back for more

 

2 hours ago, shof515 said:

looking the old deck plans of the triumph the following spaces were taken away to make cabins

Lower level of the theater on deck 3

On deck 5,  the small Venezia Lounge and the bigger Club Rio Aft Lounge was removed and replaced with brand new cabins

The secret deck on deck 9 was removed and replaced with cabins

 

It seems strange that Carnival removed 2 lounges and replaced it a smaller lounge area that is they call the red frog pub. 

 

Some people will never say anything negative about Carnival or acknowledge that certain decisions that they've made might not have been with the customer's best interests in mind. They'll argue against the negatives nonstop, so it does no good to try to lay it out. Personally, I think pointing out the negatives is just as valuable as the positives. If someone is looking at a particular ship, the negatives help build a better picture, which helps make better choices. If everything was sugar coated, a lot of people would end up unpleasantly surprised over certain things and walk away with a bitter taste. Whereas, reading about them ahead of time would lessen the shock, so to speak. Like I said in a previous post, for me, the negative comments about Sunrise in this thread don't disqualify it from my consideration. But the tighter common spaces that result from squeezing in more cabins just might. I fully support for-profit companies making profit, but they also have to think about their customers.

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1 minute ago, Organized Chaos said:

 

 

Some people will never say anything negative about Carnival or acknowledge that certain decisions that they've made might not have been with the customer's best interests in mind. They'll argue against the negatives nonstop, so it does no good to try to lay it out. Personally, I think pointing out the negatives is just as valuable as the positives. If someone is looking at a particular ship, the negatives help build a better picture, which helps make better choices. If everything was sugar coated, a lot of people would end up unpleasantly surprised over certain things and walk away with a bitter taste. Whereas, reading about them ahead of time would lessen the shock, so to speak. Like I said in a previous post, for me, the negative comments about Sunrise in this thread don't disqualify it from my consideration. But the tighter common spaces that result from squeezing in more cabins just might. I fully support for-profit companies making profit, but they also have to think about their customers.

 

And it’s greatly overplayed. People act like there’s no common spaces. 14 days, never had a problem finding space anyplace except a couple times at lunch on lido. But that was 5-7 mins. Not a crisis. 

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2 hours ago, shof515 said:

The way they have the stage setup and only 3-4 regular tables/chairs it just felt smaller to me. Good luck getting to the bar with the large crowd that gather nears the stage when they have events . Red frog pub on other ships had better seating arrangements and seemed to be better designed to handle crowds. 

 

I can not sit in those high bar stool chairs due to health reasons and due to that it ruins my enjoyment of the space when they have events going on

 

3-4 regular tables and chairs? What do you consider regular? The place is so large it seats plenty of people. Didn’t you like the couches and chairs near the entry way? 

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Redoing an old ship to get more cabins (read: crowding) and renaming it only fools the newbies. Think, putting lipstick on a pig. But that is Carnival's market . . . first timers saving money. I avoid these ships, and Carnival isn't the only one doing it, and stick to newer ships with longer itineraries.

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50 minutes ago, Organized Chaos said:

 

 

Some people will never say anything negative about Carnival or acknowledge that certain decisions that they've made might not have been with the customer's best interests in mind. They'll argue against the negatives nonstop, so it does no good to try to lay it out. Personally, I think pointing out the negatives is just as valuable as the positives. If someone is looking at a particular ship, the negatives help build a better picture, which helps make better choices. If everything was sugar coated, a lot of people would end up unpleasantly surprised over certain things and walk away with a bitter taste. Whereas, reading about them ahead of time would lessen the shock, so to speak. Like I said in a previous post, for me, the negative comments about Sunrise in this thread don't disqualify it from my consideration. But the tighter common spaces that result from squeezing in more cabins just might. I fully support for-profit companies making profit, but they also have to think about their customers.

They do, obviously way more than you think they do.  Which tighter common spces are tou referring to?   Do you know what they took away for the cabins?

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54 minutes ago, glrounds said:

Redoing an old ship to get more cabins (read: crowding) and renaming it only fools the newbies. Think, putting lipstick on a pig. But that is Carnival's market . . . first timers saving money. I avoid these ships, and Carnival isn't the only one doing it, and stick to newer ships with longer itineraries.

Yeah they sure fooled me, 36 and counting (on Carnival).  Have you been on the Sunshine or Sunrise?

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1 hour ago, RRLLAL said:

 

3-4 regular tables and chairs? What do you consider regular? The place is so large it seats plenty of people. Didn’t you like the couches and chairs near the entry way? 

yes those are good but if you sit over there then you can not see the events going on the stage at the pub. I also seen people crowd the entry way when they have events in the pub making it even harder to see what is going on

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1 hour ago, shof515 said:

yes those are good but if you sit over there then you can not see the events going on the stage at the pub. I also seen people crowd the entry way when they have events in the pub making it even harder to see what is going on

 

I sat there plenty of times and could see. Yes it’s to the side of the stage and not in front but I could still see. 

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2 hours ago, glrounds said:

Redoing an old ship to get more cabins (read: crowding) and renaming it only fools the newbies. Think, putting lipstick on a pig. But that is Carnival's market . . . first timers saving money. I avoid these ships, and Carnival isn't the only one doing it, and stick to newer ships with longer itineraries.

 

So that means I won’t be seeing you on my next carnival cruise? 

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4 minutes ago, RRLLAL said:

 

So that means I won’t be seeing you on my next carnival cruise? 

 

Touche'

Impressive cruise history . . . what was it . . . nearness to cruise port, shorter cruises, cost, desire to stand in long lines, or visit packed venues ?. . . or maybe you're a stockholder, tickled that Carnival can redo a ship, add more cabins, change it's name, at a fraction of the cost of a new build and most wouldn't even know the difference?

 

Have a great cruise. 🙂

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6 minutes ago, glrounds said:

 

Touche'

Impressive cruise history . . . what was it . . . nearness to cruise port, shorter cruises, cost, desire to stand in long lines, or visit packed venues ?. . . or maybe you're a stockholder, tickled that Carnival can redo a ship, add more cabins, change it's name, at a fraction of the cost of a new build and most wouldn't even know the difference?

 

Have a great cruise. 🙂

 

So in other words, like some others, you haven’t sailed both the triumph and sunrise? And I cruise based on ports and the ship. Did I see you on my 2 week Panama Canal cruise?

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1 minute ago, RRLLAL said:

 

So in other words, like some others, you haven’t sailed both the triumph and sunrise? 

 

Have sailed NEITHER. The introduction of the SPIRIT class made the TRIUMPH old school, whereas lipstick doesn't change a pigs demeanor. Have read enough reviews to get a pretty good picture of the Sunrise, however. But, what was it again, the nearness to its cruise port, cheap price, shortened itinerary, loving large , long lines, and packed venues? Or, as they say, "whatever floats your boat".

 

I personally cruise Carnival because of the cheap cabin pricing and even the ole Fantasy Class now and then for a short CHEAP getawayBut, mainly, because there are NO SURPRISES. 

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9 minutes ago, glrounds said:

 

Have sailed NEITHER. The introduction of the SPIRIT class made the TRIUMPH old school, whereas lipstick doesn't change a pigs demeanor. Have read enough reviews to get a pretty good picture of the Sunrise, however. But, what was it again, the nearness to its cruise port, cheap price, shortened itinerary, loving large , long lines, and packed venues? Or, as they say, "whatever floats your boat".

 

I personally cruise Carnival because of the cheap cabin pricing and even the ole Fantasy Class now and then for a short CHEAP getawayBut, mainly, because there are NO SURPRISES. 

 

I knew you had cruised neither. There’s very little that wasn’t changed interior. But you wouldn’t know that. And I could care less about some people’s over the top reviews. There are far FA more positive ones especially on another social media site.

 

And I answered your question on how I pick a cruise. 

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1 hour ago, RRLLAL said:

 There’s very little that wasn’t changed interior. 

 

Adding cabins increases the load on public places and venues exceeding the architectural design calculations pure and simple. You may not be "fooled" by the lipstick (renaming), but many newbies were. NCL did the same thing with the SEAWARD or the WINDWARD, can't remember, several decades ago, cutting the entire ship in half and adding cabins. But they didn't change the name. You may be in love with that battered ole gal, the TRIUMPH. I can understand as I love the IMAGINATION and the INSPIRATION cruising out of Long Beach (one was a 3-dayer for $99)! No name changes required.

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20 hours ago, RRLLAL said:

 

The red frog pub is quite large and is the best place on the ship. It’s also the largest red frog pub in the fleet. 

Agree.  Red Frog is great!

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On 6/22/2019 at 6:49 PM, Seeleyhs17 said:

Just got back from a 10 day cruise on the carnival sunrise and was very diappointed in the ship. The make over did nothing for it. The upgraded the cabins to make it for more people to be on the ship. This was a horrible idea. It has became way over crowded. Several times we had no place to eat and had to take food back to the room. Food was mediocre at best several times did we end up with cold food or soggy food from the deli. The smoke from the casino was horrible. No ventilation at all. And it travels through out the ship and you can smell it all over. For the only place to smoke is the casino it's in a horrible place bc it's right in the middle of the ship so you gotta walk through it to get to anywhere you really want to go. It also did not have very many activities for the kids compared to other fleets like royal carribean.

alot of satelite stations for breakfast which are in the fun times-cucina and seafood shack-wish they would better utilize the buffet line ie move omellete stations to the center stations. Move toast/bagels to one station. Like the stations much better than one line

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On 7/22/2019 at 5:58 PM, glrounds said:

 

Adding cabins increases the load on public places and venues exceeding the architectural design calculations pure and simple. You may not be "fooled" by the lipstick (renaming), but many newbies were. NCL did the same thing with the SEAWARD or the WINDWARD, can't remember, several decades ago, cutting the entire ship in half and adding cabins. But they didn't change the name. You may be in love with that battered ole gal, the TRIUMPH. I can understand as I love the IMAGINATION and the INSPIRATION cruising out of Long Beach (one was a 3-dayer for $99)! No name changes required.

 

Ignorance. If you had sailed the triumph and the sunrise you would know that very very little in that ship is the same. And the newbies I met on the ship thought it was a beautiful and great ship and would never had known it was the triumph. 

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34 minutes ago, RRLLAL said:

 

Ignorance. If you had sailed the triumph and the sunrise you would know that very very little in that ship is the same. And the newbies I met on the ship thought it was a beautiful and great ship and would never had known it was the triumph. 

It's a refurbished ship. I'm not sure why you seem to think it's drastically different. There was nothing special about this dry dock other than adding a duck tail. It was all basic stuff.

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19 minutes ago, xDisconnections said:

It's a refurbished ship. I'm not sure why you seem to think it's drastically different. There was nothing special about this dry dock other than adding a duck tail. It was all basic stuff.

 

Lolol. Been on it? Refurbish would be new paint, carpeting, cleaning etc. adding new venues, restaurants, bars, rooms, moving venues, completely changing venues etc is more than just a refurbishment. Obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about and we’re on neither. Stop embarrassing yourself. 

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12 minutes ago, RRLLAL said:

 

Lolol. Been on it? Refurbish would be new paint, carpeting, cleaning etc. adding new venues, restaurants, bars, rooms, moving venues, completely changing venues etc is more than just a refurbishment. Obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about and we’re on neither. Stop embarrassing yourself. 

Changing venues is a refurbishment, bud.

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25 minutes ago, xDisconnections said:

Changing venues is a refurbishment, bud.

 

Maybe if that was the only thing they did. Admit it, you have never been on both. 

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6 minutes ago, RRLLAL said:

 

Maybe if that was the only thing they did. Admit it, you have never been in both. 

They really didn't change that much. I'm genuinely not quite sure why you think it's similar to a new ship.

 

By your logic, one would assume all of Epcot is full of brand new attractions with the new overlay in Test Track, new film in Soarin', change in story from Maelstrom versus Frozen Ever After and the new Earth sequence at Mission Space. I wouldn't even want to start the Journey into Your Imagination with Figment discussion.

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8 minutes ago, RRLLAL said:

 

Maybe if that was the only thing they did. Admit it, you have never been in both. 

Ship renderings, photos, and press releases are enough. I don't need to sail on the rust bucket to know it's just lipstick on a pig. I'm not sure why you think I haven't sailed on any Carnival ships before...

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