Does this bother anyone else?

[Triptkr]

1 hour ago, Jeter02 said:

After your door shuts on a Medallion ship it locks immediately. ou hear it make a click sound after its shuts.

That was not our experience.  It did not lock immediately for us.  

[Thrak]

15 minutes ago, Triptkr said:

That was not our experience.  It did not lock immediately for us.  

 

It may be possible to have that adjusted. I know some folks reported their medallions opening the door from too far away and said they were able to have it adjusted. We have yet to sail on a Medallion cruise so all I have is hearsay.

[pjrockman]

4 hours ago, Triptkr said:

As entertaining as this has been, I'm surprised that my 'issue' with the Medallion hasn't been brought up on this thread.  We were just on the Crown Princess which has the Medallion fully installed and were NOT thrilled with the 'locking' aspect of the Medallion.  When we'd leave the room it would take forever for the door to lock.  By 'forever' I mean probably 30 seconds.  

 

And yes, I know that often the hallways are deserted but sometimes they're not and it's very obvious when your door is locked and unlocked by the screen.  Has anyone else noticed how long it's taken for the Medallion to lock your door when you leave?  

We, like most, did what one would do on their first Medallion Cruise.  We shut the door and stood there (like Luddites) to make sure it locked.  It took awhile.  Then, we figured it was staying open because we were still there and in range and ‘it’ didn’t want to lock us out while we were standing there.  Sure enough, when we just walked away after making sure the door was indeed shut, it locked after we took about 4 steps.  So, while we are confident that the timing can be adjusted, our experience suggests that it is based on range with a longer fail safe locking action if you are just standing there.  To make a longer story a bit shorter, it worked efficiently and quickly when we closed the door and headed down the hall.  We loved that aspect, along with the whole experience of the Medallion.

 

Safe Journeys to all and always be aware of the Lurkers...  Paul

[Bextra1256]

If you don’t have the option to remove your name    Just a simple cheap suggestion : bring a magnet and a piece of paper , place magnet above screen and cover the screen with paper... no one sees your name

[Lindaru]

46 minutes ago, Bextra1256 said:

If you don’t have the option to remove your name    Just a simple cheap suggestion : bring a magnet and a piece of paper , place magnet above screen and cover the screen with paper... no one sees your name

I have not yet been on a Medallion cruise but am wondering if the door screens are computerized, wouldn't a magnet cause damage to it?

 

[PaperSniper4]

9 hours ago, pjrockman said:

.....  Sure enough, when we just walked away after making sure the door was indeed shut, it locked after we took about 4 steps......To make a longer story a bit shorter, it worked efficiently and quickly when we closed the door and headed down the hall...........

Thanks for that info, Paul. I wondered about that myself.

 

Probably a dumb question, but I assume the cabin doors still have a deadbolt one can flip locked at night or whenever the need to not be disturbed occurs? And if you are in your cabin, with the medallion in your pocket, will the door "medallion" door unlock if you approach the door from the inside?

[MissP22]

5 hours ago, Lindaru said:

I have not yet been on a Medallion cruise but am wondering if the door screens are computerized, wouldn't a magnet cause damage to it?

 

 

Unlike the old cruise cards, magnets have no effect on the Medallions.

 

25 minutes ago, PaperSniper4 said:

Thanks for that info, Paul. I wondered about that myself.

 

Probably a dumb question, but I assume the cabin doors still have a deadbolt one can flip locked at night or whenever the need to not be disturbed occurs? And if you are in your cabin, with the medallion in your pocket, will the door "medallion" door unlock if you approach the door from the inside?

The doors still have the deadbolts as in the past. 

I suppose the door would unlock if you stood close enough with your medallion but it would re-lock itself within 10 seconds or so even if you remained close to the sensor. 

[Mademypoint]

On 7/21/2019 at 5:21 PM, Outerdog said:

 

I assume the poster is questioning the sensibility of posting names on doors of single women (for example) traveling alone as it could increase their vulnerability as it relates to assault or other violent crime.

 

Although rare, that stuff does happen.

 

I have traveled solo and gone to/from my cabin alone many times over the years and never once gave it a thought. I mean you could have a problem if you're alone with someone in an elevator too... I'd prefer to think people with evil intentions don't really like the confines of a cruise ship because they can't escape. Of course getting shipfaced and losing control of one's ability to walk upright can lend itself to unhappy endings. 

[Pierlesscruisers]

1 hour ago, Mademypoint said:

 Of course getting shipfaced and losing control of one's ability to walk upright can lend itself to unhappy endings. 

 

I've never heard anybody use that form of the word.  Funny!  Thanks for giving me a smile today! Gotta remember that one.

 

Tom

[Potstech]

Paranoia strikes again, Nobody's right and everybody's wrong as the song goes.

[Barter123]

On our Medallion cruise on the Caribbean Princess our name was only displayed outside the room when we were at the door with our Medallions otherwise nothing was showing.  We had family travelling on the same cruise and we were always second guessing ourselves before knocking on their door because their name wasn't displayed.

[jangor]

On 7/23/2019 at 5:21 PM, JimmyVWine said:

Hmmm. The maintenance guy in my hotel that one time should have watched YouTube. We had a room with a safe that was locked by the prior guest. The hotel staff couldn’t open it for all the tea in China. Took 30 minutes and heavy-duty power tools to remove the safe and install a new one. 

 

As as long as I don’t see the name “John Robie” on the display screen outside of a cabin door on a ship I sail on, I’m not going to worry too much about break ins. 

We

 

On 7/23/2019 at 7:24 PM, Jeter02 said:

Whether its the name cards, or names on the medallion tablet, the names are written so small you'd really have to put effort into checking out those names by getting real close up.

We had an experience on one cruise where my husband used the wrong code to open the safe and the safe locked us out.  We had to call security and prove who we were and  at first they said that they could not override the code, but then a supervisor came and again we presented ID and he opened it.  Not really sure how a stranger with lost medallion could get into safe.  Is safe code on medallion?

[Jeter02]

1 minute ago, jangor said:

We

 

We had an experience on one cruise where my husband used the wrong code to open the safe and the safe locked us out.  We had to call security and prove who we were and  at first they said that they could not override the code, but then a supervisor came and again we presented ID and he opened it.  Not really sure how a stranger with lost medallion could get into safe.  Is safe code on medallion?

Yes the safe is code operated. You creat a 4 digit code which is used to lock and unlock the safe. If you have any issues with your safe when it comes to opening it the supervisor is the one who comes out to fix it. 

[pjrockman]

4 hours ago, Potstech said:

Paranoia strikes again, Nobody's right and everybody's wrong as the song goes.

Nobody’s right ‘if’ everybody’s wrong.  Buffalo Springfield.

 

12 minutes ago, jangor said:

 

 

We had an experience on one cruise where my husband used the wrong code to open the safe and the safe locked us out.  We had to call security and prove who we were and  at first they said that they could not override the code, but then a supervisor came and again we presented ID and he opened it.  Not really sure how a stranger with lost medallion could get into safe.  Is safe code on medallion?

We also pushed an inadvertent button when setting the Safe once on Princess.  It took like 45 minutes to resolve.  Housekeeping called supervisor who had to come to Cabin, after supervisor verified, called security officer who also came.  After each of those verified our identity, they then called another supervisor in security or housekeeping, who asked to speak to me to again verify my identity.  Then security officer read code number and cabin number to phone person, he wrote a number down that the phone person gave him and he entered it on my safe and it opened the safe.  We were first embarrassed that we caused all that trouble, then thankful, then impressed that there was such a system of checks and balances to access an onboard safe.  From that point forward, we had no hesitation of putting everything in the safe!

 

This was only a couple of years ago and it was the four digital number Safe that Princess currently uses.

 

Hope that is interesting.  Safe Journeys, Paul

[CynCyn]

On 7/21/2019 at 9:07 PM, JimmyVWine said:

I don't understand how posting a single woman's name makes her more vulnerable than posting the names of two women traveling together,  or a married woman.  I'm having a hard time conjuring up a scenario where one would look back and say: "This never would have happened if Mary's name had not been shown on her cabin door."

I can picture all types of scenarios.  Someone meets you in the casino or at trivia or in a shop.  Then they decide you are their one true love.  They just have to make you believe......

 

There is a reason that hotels are super careful to never announce you room number; crazy people in this world.  While I don’t let it ruin my vacation, I do always remain cautious.

Edited July 25, 2019 by CynCyn
Missing word

[CynCyn]

On 7/22/2019 at 2:04 AM, pjrockman said:

Personally, I never minded the names posted with or without kids.  I, like some, enjoy reading the CC status, only for an idea of what type of cruise it is (many Elite vs many first or second timers).  To me, it’s actually harder to see with the digital screens vs the color of the Seawitch on the paper card.

 

However, I don’t begrudge those who prefer to remove.

 

Regarding the Medallion and the threat of folks finding them and accessing cabins, I’d like to report that I saw no gangs (on scooters or otherwise) roving the halls waiting to hear the correct door to unlock.  We immensely enjoyed the unlocking aspect of the Medallions.

 

Safe Journeys, Paul

And everyone thought Ted Buddy was a nice young man......lol

[SargassoPirate]

6 hours ago, CynCyn said:

 

There is a reason that hotels are super careful to never announce you room number; crazy people in this world.  While I don’t let it ruin my vacation, I do always remain cautious.

 

It's smart to remain cautious and be aware of your surroundings at all times.  Just last year She Who Must Be Obeyed was taking photos in a plaza in South America.  I noticed two potential perps off to one sidd watching her a little too closely.  I turned and started watching them.  They noticed that I was aware of them and they shuffled off and joined a group of other potential perps hanging around a fountain.

 

When I mentioned it to our guide, she said that most likely they were planning to snatch her cellphone to sell on the black market.

 

Yes, I am suspicious and always scanning my surroundings for potential trouble.

 

 

[GUT2407]

8 minutes ago, SargassoPirate said:

 

It's smart to remain cautious and be aware of your surroundings at all times.  Just last year She Who Must Be Obeyed was taking photos in a plaza in South America.  I noticed two potential perps off to one sidd watching her a little too closely.  I turned and started watching them.  They noticed that I was aware of them and they shuffled off and joined a group of other potential perps hanging around a fountain.

 

When I mentioned it to our guide, she said that most likely they were planning to snatch her cellphone to sell on the black market.

 

Yes, I am suspicious and always scanning my surroundings for potential trouble.

 

 

I guess everyone you see is a potential perp....

[MissP22]

17 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

I guess everyone you see is a potential perp....

How do these people actually relax on a cruise ship with the constant worry about assault? 

Or anywhere in the world outside their own fortress at home. 

[SargassoPirate]

23 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

I guess everyone you see is a potential perp....

 

Yep. I worked with convicted criminals for a number of years and learned much about how the criminal mind works.  They are always looking for an opportunity.

 

On the streets anywhere, you are either predator or prey.  The key is to not act like you are prey.  Walk confidently, be aware of your surroundings, make eye contact with those around you to let the potential perps know you are aware of them.   It's worked in the barrio in LA to the streets in Sao Paulo, Brazil, where we wound up in a dodgy area thanks to a bad ship map.  

 

At least be aware of what's going on and increase your odds.

 

 

 

[PaperSniper4]

On 7/24/2019 at 6:43 AM, MissP22 said:

 

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The doors still have the deadbolts as in the past. 

I suppose the door would unlock if you stood close enough with your medallion but it would re-lock itself within 10 seconds or so even if you remained close to the sensor. 

 

Thanks for that information. Sounds like the door works as it should....as long as HAL doesn't command of the bridge. <g>

[SargassoPirate]

7 minutes ago, PaperSniper4 said:

 

Thanks for that information. Sounds like the door works as it should....as long as HAL doesn't command of the bridge. <g>

 

And Skynet does not become self-aware.  😁

[PaperSniper4]

11 hours ago, pjrockman said:

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We also pushed an inadvertent button when setting the Safe once on Princess.  It took like 45 minutes to resolve.  Housekeeping called supervisor who had to come to Cabin, after supervisor verified, called security officer who also came.  After each of those verified our identity, they then called another supervisor in security or housekeeping, who asked to speak to me to again verify my identity.  Then security officer read code number and cabin number to phone person, he wrote a number down that the phone person gave him and he entered it on my safe and it opened the safe.  We were first embarrassed that we caused all that trouble, then thankful, then impressed that there was such a system of checks and balances to access an onboard safe.  From that point forward, we had no hesitation of putting everything in the safe!

 

.....

Yes, there are many levels of security when the staff needs to open a safe, as there should be. However, I believe the original poster's comment referred to how easily a crook could get into those safes; and it is from what I've read.

 

Bottom line; most of us are not paranoid, but we don't seen any reason to have our names on doors nor do we want unauthorized folks 'visiting' when we're not at home.  It's not paranoia, it's just being careful I think. Do I use the cabin safe? Yep, for small things that fit. But I'm under no illusion they are totally safe in there.....if it were something important enough (which I don't have with me on any trip) I use the big ol' safe in the purser's or hotel's office.

[PaperSniper4]

1 hour ago, GUT2407 said:

I guess everyone you see is a potential perp....

Potential yes, at least in my case. That doesn't mean I treat them as criminals until it's obvious that they are. I use the same mindset when I buckle the seat belt on my car; avoiding injury in a potential accident.

 

This thread is starting to remind me of a online discussion I had with another fellow. He was convinced that because I locked my car doors in a parking lot I must be paranoid, and that action made it more likely HE'D have his car burgled! Do I obsess that everyone is out to get me? No, because I am careful, and I have insurance. But I bet I enjoy my vacation at least as much those with a carefree and trusting personality....maybe even more. 😎

[Outerdog]

2 hours ago, GUT2407 said:

I guess everyone you see is a potential perp....

 

Folks with this type of flippant and dismissive attitude about personal safety and responsibility in public places are the ones getting their stuff snatched, being assaulted, or having their car windows smashed in.

 

Sure, you don't have to walk around in full SEAL mode all the time, but SargassoPirate gives good advice. It is wise to remain vigilant and maintain awareness of one's surroundings.  I don't see how anyone could reasonably promote not doing so, which is what you seem to be advocating with your one-liner quip.