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I normally mind my own business, and have been known to interpret rules loosely but in this case I would report it whether they are smoking tobacco, weed or burning incense or whatever. I don't care what other people do in the privacy of their domicile but when it affects me either by polluting my olfactory senses or presenting an obvious fire hazard then it now becomes a concern to me.  

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I can no longer smoke in my cabin or on my balcony so why should anyone else be able to and get away with it? Heck yes I would contact Guest Services and Security in a heartbeat, especially if I smell illegal substances. I do enjoy watching the dogs in the luggage area upon leaving the ship and catching the perps with illegal substances and seeing them brought to special rooms. Never tried illegals drugs and never will.

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I would report it if I smelled it inside my own cabin or spent a lot of time on my balcony and the smell was so bad that I couldn't enjoy my own balcony.  Otherwise, I would not say anything.  I am not sure why people can't use those e cigarettes or edible food with their desired ingredients so that it wouldn't interfere with someone else's vacation.  Not everyone enjoys smelling smoke and shouldn't have to experience it outside of a designated smoking area.  It's inconsiderate and a safety hazard.

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12 hours ago, cthrn27 said:

Say, hypothetically, on your cruise there is a particular cabin that is enjoying a product that requires matches or a lighter to be enjoyed.  They are in their own cabin, but the smell is unusually foul and wafts not only into the hallway, but into the other rooms..  An offhand question to the steward makes you think the steward is aware of this, and  you assume something will be done.  Unfortunately, nothing is done.  This is not a condemnation of the product, but a concern that any type of fire on a boat is a potential hazard.  This continues.  Do you say something?  to guest services?  would this get the steward in trouble?  would the people be kicked off?

I would tell Guest Services, but without mentioning that I'd told the steward. I don't blame him/her for not wanting to do Security's job, likely at the expense of his/her tip for the sailing.

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8 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

I would report it if I smelled it inside my own cabin or spent a lot of time on my balcony and the smell was so bad that I couldn't enjoy my own balcony.  Otherwise, I would not say anything.  I am not sure why people can't use those e cigarettes or edible food with their desired ingredients so that it wouldn't interfere with someone else's vacation.  Not everyone enjoys smelling smoke and shouldn't have to experience it outside of a designated smoking area.  It's inconsiderate and a safety hazard.

They don't allow you to bring food that isn't prepackaged onboard (so no special brownies).
Also, no vaping in the rooms or balconies either.

We haven't had this issue yet, but we also choose our cabins away from the designated smoking area and I guess have been fortunate that no one near us lit up on their balcony.

Definitely a safety hazard and inconsiderate. 
There is a time and place for everything.
But I am sure that as more laws are passed, and it becomes legal to smoke and possess, Carnival will eventually allow it in the smoking areas.
However I don't ever see them allowing it in rooms or balconies.
To much of an expense to clean the smell out of the room for the next guest and not enough time to do that during turnaround.
Only option would be to have designated non-smoking rooms, but that isn't really feasible on a cruise ship.

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1 minute ago, indygirl76 said:

I would tell Guest Services, but without mentioning that I'd told the steward. I don't blame him/her for not wanting to do Security's job, likely at the expense of his/her tip for the sailing.

I agree with this, plus it isn't the steward's job to be policing the cruisers.
Any rule breaking is an issue that Guest Services should handle.

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2 hours ago, coevan said:

For many, many years smoking was allowed on the balcony, millions of cruisers, a ship has never burned down over a cigarette. Gheez I rode a bike for 30 years before helmets were widely used, fortunately my head is still intact. I'm more of a live and let live kind of guy. 

Ships  may  have  not  burned  down  but  some  have  caught fire  from  people  smoking.   My  parents  were on a  a  cruise  with  4   ports  the  first  cruise port  was  in Jamaica . The  night  before   they  got  to Jamaica   someone  caused  a  fire  from  smoking  on  their  balcony . The  passengers  near  that  room on multiple  decks  had  to  evacuate  their  rooms  at  night  and were  not  allowed  back  even  after  the  fire . The  next  morning  my  parents  were  told  to  go  to  their room  with  an  escort  pack  all  their  things because  the  ship  was  being  evacuated . They  and  a lot  of  the  other  passengers  were  flown  from  Jamaica  to  Atlanta  . They  were  there  a  day  and  a  half  waiting  for their flights . Not  quite  the  Carribean  Vacation  they  were  hoping  for  .

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12 hours ago, coevan said:

For many, many years smoking was allowed on the balcony, millions of cruisers, a ship has never burned down over a cigarette. Gheez I rode a bike for 30 years before helmets were widely used, fortunately my head is still intact. I'm more of a live and let live kind of guy. 

 

And when it was legal they probably had ash trays and a proper way to dispose of them. What are they doing now? Throwing them off of the balcony? Flushing them down the toilet? Are they bringing ash trays? I think it's less safe when you have to hide it.

 

I've had a friend and a family member killed on motorcycles. 

 

Edited by Saint Greg

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2 hours ago, Chervil said:


But I am sure that as more laws are passed, and it becomes legal to smoke and possess, Carnival will eventually allow it in the smoking areas.
 

All 50 states could pass laws decriminalizing it, but it's Federal Law that the cruise lines follow.  Talk about second hand smoke affecting others.  I don't think we'll ever see it allowed in any smoking areas.

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They could have been vaping, that does not require a flame to smoke it.

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6 minutes ago, robc1972 said:

They could have been vaping, that does not require a flame to smoke it.

That is still against the rules, but if they want to close themselves up in their bathroom or otherwise keep it contained and vape away as long as I don't have to smell it then I could care less. 

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15 hours ago, coevan said:

For many, many years smoking was allowed on the balcony, millions of cruisers, a ship has never burned down over a cigarette. Gheez I rode a bike for 30 years before helmets were widely used, fortunately my head is still intact. I'm more of a live and let live kind of guy. 

By your logic, many people lived that did not get into a car accident before they had seatbelts or car seats, or airbags, so I guess none of that is necessary, since some people lived?  I hear this all the time, in my day we never wore helmets, never used sunscreen, and juggled chain saws.  Just because somebody somewhere did not die from this, does not mean it is safe.  Obviously the people still alive lived through it.  I know of two kids that had brain injuries from not wearing a helmet, and my aunt died when she went through a windshield as a baby (sitting on my Grandmothers lap).  

 

The same thing goes for smoking - just because there have been no ships that burnt to the ground that were found to be unequivocally attributed to smoking does not mean it is safe.

 

I, personally would only report somebody if it was infringing on my enjoyment (could smell it on my balcony or my room), but have no problems if others want to report people breaking the rules.  Anybody the purposely breaks the rules should face any consequences of those actions.

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I've got asthma so I would have reported it. Particulate matter in the air doesn't do great things for my breathing.

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1 hour ago, BND said:

All 50 states could pass laws decriminalizing it, but it's Federal Law that the cruise lines follow.  Talk about second hand smoke affecting others.  I don't think we'll ever see it allowed in any smoking areas.

How long do you think it will be until the Federal Law is changed, though?
If all 50 states made it legal, you can bet there would either be enough pressure on elected officials to change it, or some politician will make it their banner and push for the change on a federal level.

(To be clear, I do not smoke or vape anything. So I am unaffected by the legal status.)


I am just happy smoking anything is confined to a few spots on the ship, instead of allowed over the whole ship and in cabins.

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I too tend to be a "live and let live" person, we each go on vacation and hope to indulge in our interests. Some mentioned smoking on balconies was allowed for years, true. But even though I respect people's right to smoke if they enjoy it, I think it is worth mentioning that for years others were deprived of the balcony they paid for due to some having "the right to smoke". If you have never experienced having a side facing balcony (which most are) and having constant smoke blowing onto your balcony in even heavier clouds than the balcony of the smoker, you will recognize how truly awful this is. It definitely makes it worth the upcharge for the stern (rear facing) balconies which allow non smokers the pleasure of using their balconies at any time they wish, something only smokers had for many years. I have family members who smoke ! They are 100% in agreement that banning smoking on balconies is the best decision cruise lines ever made, just as they have always agree that passengers on flights who made the decision not to smoke, should never be subjected to having to breath smoke. It's just common sense, respect, and caring for others ! Ships should, and many have, provide smoking areas, a separate lounge such as a cigar and (if a person chooses) cigarette, pipe, or even the e-cigarettes, not just an option to go to an open deck and possibly stand in the rain ! As smokers I know have expressed to me, "why should I, as a smoker, have the "right" to make you miserable, any more than I have the "right" to enter a restaurant, open my purse, and open a bottle of nail polish remover to touch up my manicure while others are eating". A good point, from an intelligent and respectful lady I've know a long time. BTW, when I was a young adult and first began cruising with my parents, people actually sat at the dinner table, waiters would place ashtrays on the table, and even run to light the smokes of those who chose to do that between (not just after) courses while tablemates attempted to finish the course ! We HAVE come a long way !

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If you alert the Staff for a backed up toilet, a clogged drain, a non-working television, etc., why would you NOT alert them to a "foul" smell (to be clear we're not talking about a brief unpleasant odor such as flatulence)?  Each hampers the enjoyment/ease of the vacation. I have not had the misfortune of having to alert the Staff about anything negative. However, if there was something happening that was hampering my enjoyment (and it could be fixed/corrected/addressed by the Staff) I would let someone know.

Edited by JennyB1977

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7 hours ago, ishap said:

I would have reported it for nothing else as I don't want the smell of cigarettes, cigars, or marijauana in my room.

 

 

 

You leave your balcony door open?

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6 hours ago, sparks1093 said:

Only because the investigators could not find a cause. As I understand it they were not able to replicate the fire by a cigarette under lab conditions.

They still said it was the most likely cause.

 

As far as I know they have not replicated any other cause. And by definition if a cigarette was the most likely cause, any other cause would be less likely.

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4 hours ago, Chervil said:

To much of an expense to clean the smell out of the room for the next guest and not enough time to do that during turnaround

 

marijuana smell doesn't linger more than a few hours, nothing like cigarette smoke which permeates everything, the next guess will not have clue

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7 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

They still said it was the most likely cause.

 

As far as I know they have not replicated any other cause. And by definition if a cigarette was the most likely cause, any other cause would be less likely.

"most likely" doesn't mean "the" cause, not in my book. In any event the cruise industry allowed smoking on balconies for many years after that until passenger pressure caused them to make the change.

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Frankly, I am sick and tired reading about the rules and laws that need to be followed while on a cruise.  All of these laws limit personal freedom and if you need a law to protect you then you shouldn't leave your house.  Don't leave the balcony door open.  Don't smoke on the balcony.  Marijuana is a against federal law (and that makes it bad).  You can only bring two bottles of wine on board.  No drones allowed!  This list goes on and on.  People need to lighten up (pun intended) and have fun on a cruise! 

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1 minute ago, ChinaShrek said:

Frankly, I am sick and tired reading about the rules and laws that need to be followed while on a cruise.  All of these laws limit personal freedom and if you need a law to protect you then you shouldn't leave your house.  Don't leave the balcony door open.  Don't smoke on the balcony.  Marijuana is a against federal law (and that makes it bad).  You can only bring two bottles of wine on board.  No drones allowed!  This list goes on and on.  People need to lighten up (pun intended) and have fun on a cruise! 

I have plenty of fun on a cruise all while following the rules. 

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40 minutes ago, ChinaShrek said:

Frankly, I am sick and tired reading about the rules and laws that need to be followed while on a cruise.  All of these laws limit personal freedom and if you need a law to protect you then you shouldn't leave your house.  Don't leave the balcony door open.  Don't smoke on the balcony.  Marijuana is a against federal law (and that makes it bad).  You can only bring two bottles of wine on board.  No drones allowed!  This list goes on and on.  People need to lighten up (pun intended) and have fun on a cruise! 

 

Says the person who's protected by those laws every time they leave their house. Carnival's rules are company policies, not laws. Your freedom doesn't grant you the right to pick & choose which of those rules apply to you. All of those rules don't have much affect on how much fun millions of people have on Carnival's ships every year.

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1 hour ago, ChinaShrek said:

Frankly, I am sick and tired reading about the rules and laws that need to be followed while on a cruise.  All of these laws limit personal freedom and if you need a law to protect you then you shouldn't leave your house.  Don't leave the balcony door open.  Don't smoke on the balcony.  Marijuana is a against federal law (and that makes it bad).  You can only bring two bottles of wine on board.  No drones allowed!  This list goes on and on.  People need to lighten up (pun intended) and have fun on a cruise! 

You do realize these rules are for everyone's benefit and not to ruin your fun, right?  They have come to be because people think they can do anything they want, even if it impacts others.  There are a lot more rules now than there were 30 years ago due to those that think rules don't apply to them and have pushed the limits over and over.  It's not about your personal freedom.  Cruise lines are private businesses and have the right to make the rules they want.  If you don't like them, you are free to take your vacation dollars elsewhere.

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If the odor doesn't bother you . . . "let sleeping dogs lie" . . . if it does report to guest services.

 

If you're 50 pounds overweight and on the cheers program and live in the deserts section of the buffet, don't even begin to talk about "health issues".

Edited by glrounds

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