Deployment 2021-22 booking season begins

[banzaii]

On 2/23/2020 at 9:29 AM, springaussie said:

The Deployment Flyer for Opening Dates for the 21/22 season has gone from the Royal Caribbean website. 

Can anyone find it. 

Not seeing it in any of the usual places.  I did not dowload a recent copy either, before it disappeared from the olde loyal to you site.

 

Didn't the old one say release was first week in March for ANZ itineraries.

Edited February 24, 2020 by banzaii

[Jack McGowan]

1 hour ago, banzaii said:

Not seeing it in any of the usual places.  I did not dowload a recent copy either, before it disappeared from the olde loyal to you site.

 

Didn't the old one say release was first week in March for ANZ itineraries.

Maybe waiting to see how the situation with China plays out for a bit, or just some changes going on

[MichellePerth]

1 hour ago, Jack McGowan said:

Maybe waiting to see how the situation with China plays out for a bit, or just some changes going on

I can only imagine there will some rejigging.  I recently moved my deposits on a couple of European cruises that I was booked on in April and may.  I was pretty sure that travel, especially long distance travel, would become a PITA.  I can picture Italy closing its ports and other European countries doing likewise.   I read that Austria and Spain have restricted travel significantly to Italy.  

[Sunny AZ Girl]

Royal seems to be in the middle of a lot of changes, especially with the Asia cruises.  Our booked B2B Singapore to Toyko/Tokyo to Seattle in April/May 2021 is showing  lot of changes on our planners.  Some does not seem to make any sense.  No word from Royal to those of us booked on those cruises yet.  The first cruise has been "red flagged" and not showing up on searches at all for the last few months, way before Covid19.  Supposedly it is sold out, but now changes are happening on our planners and not at all consistent with TA sites.  We are just waiting it out since we are still over a year away.

[geoff2802]

10 hours ago, Sunny AZ Girl said:

Royal seems to be in the middle of a lot of changes, especially with the Asia cruises.  Our booked B2B Singapore to Toyko/Tokyo to Seattle in April/May 2021 is showing  lot of changes on our planners.  Some does not seem to make any sense.  No word from Royal to those of us booked on those cruises yet.  The first cruise has been "red flagged" and not showing up on searches at all for the last few months, way before Covid19.  Supposedly it is sold out, but now changes are happening on our planners and not at all consistent with TA sites.  We are just waiting it out since we are still over a year away.

Perhaps they are re-scheduling the dry dock in Singapore that preceeds your cruise?  

[Cruisertoday]

The transpacific for Quantum departing from Tokyo on 4/25/2021 is now available to book.

[little britain]

15 minutes ago, Cruisertoday said:

The transpacific for Quantum departing from Tokyo on 4/25/2021 is now available to book.

Wow - huge price difference between the 15n Tokyo to Seattle on Quantum starting at £1056pp versus the 14n Tokyo to Seattle on Ovation leaving 2 weeks later starting at £3416pp!!

[Wine-O]

8 minutes ago, little britain said:

Wow - huge price difference between the 15n Tokyo to Seattle on Quantum starting at £1056pp versus the 14n Tokyo to Seattle on Ovation leaving 2 weeks later starting at £3416pp!!

When Ovation first came on line for booking (May 2019), you could snag a nice balcony for around $2,300 for two people, including taxes and port charges.  🍷 

[edspec]

Thanks for the info on 4/24/21 Quantum, just booked it for $1855 balcony, 2 people, refundable deposit.  Just as cheap as staying home!

[Wine-O]

2 hours ago, edspec said:

Thanks for the info on 4/24/21 Quantum, just booked it for $1855 balcony, 2 people, refundable deposit.  Just as cheap as staying home!

Where did you get that price?  I assume you mean the 4/25/21 sailing?  Cruising Power shows cheapest price on that sailing is around $2,800, and that is for an inside GTY.  🍷

[edspec]

Big box store which gives cash cards.

[dub237]

Nobody knows where explorer will be in summer 2021 please ?


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[Jack McGowan]

22 minutes ago, dub237 said:

Nobody knows where explorer will be in summer 2021 please ?


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Not yet there have been rumours for just about everywhere but nothing confirmed, with the situation at the moment plans could be changing for ships anyway if they have other ships they might send to the caribbean

[dub237]

I saw explorer many times scheduled on Gibraltar port but despite that no more clue for an European season [emoji53]


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[Jack McGowan]

Just now, dub237 said:

I saw explorer many times scheduled on Gibraltar port but despite that no more clue for an European season


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I’ve seen her popping up here and there in Europe also, if RC decide to move some ships from the China area to be deployed in the Caribbean we could see another ship in Europe possibly. It’s a long shot but possible

[BaikG]

2 minutes ago, Jack McGowan said:

I’ve seen her popping up here and there in Europe also, if RC decide to move some ships from the China area to be deployed in the Caribbean we could see another ship in Europe possibly. It’s a long shot but possible

China to Caribbean seems a bit far-fetched. At this point, the most realistic option would be to send the Asia ships to either AU/NZ year-round, US West Coast + Alaska, or Europe and sending the current Europe ships to the Caribbean. It would be far too expensive and impractical to send the Asia ships on a Global Odyssey through the Suez and Atlantic and I'm not sure if the ships would fit through the Panama Canal if going through the Pacific.

[Jack McGowan]

7 minutes ago, BaikG said:

China to Caribbean seems a bit far-fetched. At this point, the most realistic option would be to send the Asia ships to either AU/NZ year-round, US West Coast + Alaska, or Europe and sending the current Europe ships to the Caribbean. It would be far too expensive and impractical to send the Asia ships on a Global Odyssey through the Suez and Atlantic and I'm not sure if the ships would fit through the Panama Canal if going through the Pacific.

This is true and why I think it is unlikely - however if this is still going on in 21 RC are likely to be looking at long term solutions. Sending them to Europe directly, as you said, is probably more likely - although where they would sail from im not sure. Maybe another ship from Southampton? Barcelona?

[springaussie]

Serenade has appeared in Sydney Ports 16, 23 and 30 November 2021.

Probably a Singapore Dry Dock after Alaska like Radiance. 

Work 2 weekly music charters out of Sydney then head to Melbourne?  

[Blue Eyed Belfast Belle]

On ‎2‎/‎25‎/‎2020 at 12:40 PM, Cruisertoday said:

The transpacific for Quantum departing from Tokyo on 4/25/2021 is now available to book.

 

Interesting! Not showing on the UK & Ireland site and when checking the US site it isn't there either.

 

I'd say there are a lot of re-deployments on the cards!

[Ourusualbeach]

I’m wondering if depending on how severe this gets that if an option might just to have the ships sit idle. There will be a ton of excess capacity amongst the cruise lines  and it would most likely be less expensive to dock them for 6 months than it would be to sail half full with guests paying rock bottom fares 

[twangster]

9 minutes ago, Blue Eyed Belfast Belle said:

 

Interesting! Not showing on the UK & Ireland site and when checking the US site it isn't there either.

 

I'd say there are a lot of re-deployments on the cards!

 

The Quantum cruise from Tokyo to Seattle in April of 2021 was up yesterday on the US site but has since been removed.  A studio balcony was the most expensive balcony on the ship at over 6,500 USD for one guest when I looked.  A standard unobstructed balcony was almost half that but still expensive compared to when Ovation's version of the same cruise first posted last year.  

[ONECRUISER]

8 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I’m wondering if depending on how severe this gets that if an option might just to have the ships sit idle. There will be a ton of excess capacity amongst the cruise lines  and it would most likely be less expensive to dock them for 6 months than it would be to sail half full with guests paying rock bottom fares 

Last I remember similar was for 6 months right after 9/11 and Anthrax scare. Ships sailed with about 85% cabins filled, many Solo passengers and no 3/4 passengers or kids/families. Even to get that full I only paid $9 for OV cabin(plus $50 port) $59total on a 5 nite, $700total for Cat B 7n. Both solo, no single supplement... Agree, huge increase in capacity, will be harder to fill compared to 2001

[Goodtime Cruizin]

On 2/25/2020 at 7:40 AM, edspec said:

Thanks for the info on 4/24/21 Quantum, just booked it for $1855 balcony, 2 people, refundable deposit.  Just as cheap as staying home!

 

If I'm doing this correctly, this particular cruise is not showing up on the RCL website. 

[twangster]

31 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I’m wondering if depending on how severe this gets that if an option might just to have the ships sit idle. There will be a ton of excess capacity amongst the cruise lines  and it would most likely be less expensive to dock them for 6 months than it would be to sail half full with guests paying rock bottom fares 

 

Casino comps will increase at least for a while. 

 

Mothballing a ship isn't an easy task.  They are designed to be in continuous operation.    Dock fees add up quickly and there are minimum crew level just to keep them floating.  Crew need food, crew cabins cleaned, crew laundry done and so on.  They might be able to cut the hotel support crew but the delta over the base operating costs to support a "parked' ship compared to a ship capable of supporting guests I suspect makes it more favorable to keep them bookable even if they don't operate in the black.

 

It's about minimizing losses.  They might not generate profit but the goal will be to minimize losses until they can return to maximum profitability.  

 

A parked or idle ship generates zero revenue, it's just a money pit.  If they can generate some revenue that might be better on the balance sheet.

Edited February 26, 2020 by twangster

[Biker19]

1 minute ago, twangster said:

Casino comps will increase at least for a while. 

I'm wondering how many of those offers are not taken in the current environment?