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Please don't turn this into a "should one do landings or not".

[We are trying to deal with that decision, and the reasons are personal, and may well not be relevant for others, nor their choices for us.  Thanks you for understanding this,]

 

Meanwhile, which lines/ships will be offering a "sail-by" in the 2020-2021 season, or perhaps prior to Jan 1st, 2022 (just the fall of 2021)?

 

We only know about HAL for this type of Antarctic cruise.  Are there others?

 

(IF we do a cruise with landings, we probably know which we would choose, but that's not what this question is about.)

 

Many thanks!
 

GC

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Princess Cruises does have cruises this season and next which have 4 days of scenic cruising in the Antarctic peninsula area. We are sailing on Princess December 20, embarking in Buenos Aires.

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24 minutes ago, erber said:

Princess Cruises does have cruises this season and next which have 4 days of scenic cruising in the Antarctic peninsula area. We are sailing on Princess December 20, embarking in Buenos Aires.

 

Thanks so much.

 

Would you care to share why you chose Princess (which ship?) for this, rather than a HAL ship?

Is it about 20 or 22 days?

 

We will be on our first HAL cruise late fall, to New Zealand & Australia.  That's part of what triggered all of this thinking.
But we've not been on any Princess ship thus far.

 

Thank you!

 

GC

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We have never sailed on HAL but are elite on Princess. So when deciding to book the Antarctica itinerary we automatically decided to go on Princess. We get free laundry, loyalty on board credit, mini bar which we always swap for coffee card package and a few other good perks. The cruise departs Buenos Aires on December 20 and we disembark in Chile on January 5. We fly back to Florida immediately and I go back to work January 7. We are sailing on the Coral Princess. It has a wrap around Promenade deck and many excellent outdoor viewing areas. We also got a great price on a balcony.

 

We actually are going to take our first HAL cruise in April to see what HAL is like. From what I'm reading in cruise critic I think we will like it a lot. We are doing a seven day Caribbean cruise on one of the newer HAL ships, Nieuw Statendam. 

 

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1 hour ago, GeezerCouple said:

Please don't turn this into a "should one do landings or not".

[We are trying to deal with that decision, and the reasons are personal, and may well not be relevant for others, nor their choices for us.  Thanks you for understanding this,]

 

Meanwhile, which lines/ships will be offering a "sail-by" in the 2020-2021 season, or perhaps prior to Jan 1st, 2022 (just the fall of 2021)?

 

We only know about HAL for this type of Antarctic cruise.  Are there others?

 

(IF we do a cruise with landings, we probably know which we would choose, but that's not what this question is about.)

 

Many thanks!
 

GC

 

Our favorite cruise lines are HAL  , Celebrity and Princess and they all offer a sail- by . We choose HAL . We wanted to do the Brujo or Amalia Glacier and Glacier Alley in the morning . The others don't have them . And we wanted to see the penguins and Guanaco near Puerto Madryn which Princess doesn't go to . We booked a Neptune suite and spent a lot of time on the balcony seeing penguins , Humpbacks and Orcas . We had a lot of meals on the balcony or inside our room when people were in the MDR we were watching wildlife and scenery go by .

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We have been on HAL, Celebrity and Princess ships (as well as a number other lines).  Of the those three, HAL is probably our least favorite.  Every cruise line and, in fact, every ship has its own personality and pros and cons.  When choosing a cruise, we take into account the itinerary, our schedules, the cost and plans for before and after the cruise.

 

We chose the Coral Princess for the 16-day SA/Antartica cruise upcoming this January.  The Coral is the right size and outside scenery viewing configuration for us.  The cost for a mini-suite with a converted balcony was great.  We realize that the 16-day has less ports than the HAL 22-day.  But the 16-day was less expensive and primarily gave us time in our schedule to add a number of DIY days in both Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires pre-cruise and time on Easter Island and in Santiago post cruise.   All together, this is the right 5 week itinerary for us.  

 

Hope you find the right experience for you.

 

 

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Vakamalua touched upon a good point about a pre or post cruise stay . South America is a beautiful continent to visit and we spent a week in Patagonia with a rented car on the open roads .

 

 

A Rhea beside the road

 

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We really preferred the open road driving and scenery to the cities

 

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Perito Moreno Glacier

 

 

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Small boat glacier cruise

 

 

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Torres del Paine

 

 

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We spent 2 days in Buenos Aires after the cruise but we really liked Patagonia much better

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Thanks all!

And please keep the comments/suggestions coming.. VERY helpful!

 

And ditto those GORGEOUS photos! 

 

We are definitely going to look into the 16 day version.  I didn't realize there was one like that.  Given the travel time and some time for pre- and post-cruise to do more than just see an airport and a hotel, it gets a bit long.  DH has been a terrific sport about heading towards 4 weeks in absolute total, but that makes it a bit stressful given that he is just refusing to retire!  It's terrific that he still gets so much satisfaction from his work, but it's definitely a mixed bag, etc.

 

GC

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15 hours ago, GeezerCouple said:

Thanks all!

And please keep the comments/suggestions coming.. VERY helpful!

 

And ditto those GORGEOUS photos! 

 

We are definitely going to look into the 16 day version.  I didn't realize there was one like that.  Given the travel time and some time for pre- and post-cruise to do more than just see an airport and a hotel, it gets a bit long.  DH has been a terrific sport about heading towards 4 weeks in absolute total, but that makes it a bit stressful given that he is just refusing to retire!  It's terrific that he still gets so much satisfaction from his work, but it's definitely a mixed bag, etc.

 

GC

 

Retiring and traveling are 2 of the best things that we have done . Having cruised this region a couple of times on HAL and once on NCL we have gained some experience in this area . In looking at the Princess itinerary we would not go on it or recommend it for several reasons . We did enjoy our pre and post cruise but laundry , carrying and living out of a suitcase , driving and finding meals was much challenging than on the cruise . In looking at the map we see several concerns .

 

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Chile like Alaska and Canada has an inside and a outside passage . You will have 4 days and nights in the outside passage which can and has been very rough for us and anyone who goes out side . Our other cruises went through fjords and saw glaciers and had ports to enjoy instead of bumpy sea . Princess will miss one of our favorite ports , Puerto Montt .

 

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We love the 8700 ' Volcano Osorno near the port

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When we reached the ski lift near the top it was foggy and snowing so we stopped for hot chocolate .

 

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We then stopped at the Petrohue waterfalls

 

There are a couple of waterfalls here

 

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A bridge over busy waters

 

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At this point the river divides

 

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One way cuts through a narrow gorge

 

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And the other spills into a boiling , bubbling pool

 

 

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A video clip :

 

 

 

 

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And it can get busy here when a bus shows up

 

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Our lunch was in The Latitude 42 Restaurant at The Yan Kee Way Lodge. We first tried this place in 2007 and loved it. We didn't realize that the price of the lunch had been included with our tour so it was a pleasant surprise when we found out. The lodge has an interesting , eclectic décor.

 

 

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Unfortunately , the carved tree had seen 7 winters since our last visit and some of the beautiful images had lost their original splendor.

 

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Here is the story of the carved tree

 

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The restaurant sits on the lake

 

 

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There is a good view of the lake and the volcano in the distance

 

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And the food ! - first was a local seafood and chorizo soup. Delicious and HUGE. We asked the guide and driver why they were not eating and they said that they could never finish it all. They also informed us that time was becoming an issue.

 

 

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Taking a cue , we moved on to the main. All of the ingredients are caught or grown locally , and they taste that way . Next up was Salmon with berries and

they were as good as any I ever have eaten before !

 

 

 

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For wine I chose a tinto (red) of their choice. It was perfect but we were told by the guide that we had to go. We had finished our main but the chef was concerned that we would miss dessert so he came to our table to talk to us and show us a picture of the dessert on his smart phone. We thanked him for a great meal , and requested a box to go ( being good Americans ). It seemed like a shame to put his work into a box but we enjoyed a special taste of Chile on the ship.

 

We ate there in 2013 but we think that the cruise ship took all of the reservations in December so our guide took us to another nice seafood restaurant where the food was excellent !

 

 

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It was raining when we arrived there so we went inside instead of the garden .

 

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We loved this fluffy bread , like a little pillow .

 

 

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Lunch for 2

 

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Abalone ,  Giant Barnacles , Clams , Oysters and 3 kinds of King Crab !

 

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Princess will skip this glacier

 

 

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We almost forgot that we had ordered breakfast in our room so we hustled down

 

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Videos :

 

Entering the glacier

 

 

 

 

The Brujo Glacier

 

 

 

We have been to Punta Arenas 3 times at 2 different piers but I notice that Princess has this as a tender port . The wind was straining the ropes securing the ship to the pier so that it needed tugs to hold it to the pier . A later cruise missed the port altogether . We booked 3 penguin tours on our cruise and the one was the worse . A rough and bouncy , crowded , hot and claustrophobic boat took us to the island . You had to wear a life preserver for about 3 hours including on the island . 

 

About 5 minutes before our arrival this ladies friend spilled her lunch at our feet .

 

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Perhaps the smell attracted the penguins because they sure got close to them . Anyhow , we had arrived !

 

 

The island is covered with penguins and people

 

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But mostly penguins

 

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And their chicks

 

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1 hour ago, GeezerCouple said:

What time of year was this?

 

 

Looks amazing!

Thanks

 

GC

 

The glacier was December 23 th and Punta Arenas on December 24th . On Christmas day Glacier Alley was foggy and when we got into the port of Ushuaia the Captain made this announcement .

 

 

 

Hello , goodbye Ushuaia !

 

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This part of the world the latitude is referred to as the Roaring Forties and the Furious Fifties and weather can and does change fast causing cancellations of ports .

 

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In 2013 we booked a tour to see the penguins of The Falkland Islands . The port and thus the tour was cancelled due to weather . The cancellation rate of the Falkland Islands is about 50% so there's no guarantee of seeing penguins there . And there are a limited amount of tours there so if several ships are there - good luck . Princess will also miss Puerto Madryn which is one of our favorite spots for penguins and other wildlife at Punta Tombo .

 

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We took a private tour and beat the crowd by an hour before they scared a lot of the wildlife off .

 

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The Penguin beach

 

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We had about twice as much time as the buses and we were able to see thing like these under a bush .

 

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The Magellanic Penguin bray like a donkey

 

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We go an escort as we left port

 

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It's too bad that Princess will skip Puerto Montt and Puerto Madryn and the Amalia or Brujo glaciers .

 

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This year was our 3rd trip to South America and first to Antarctica and The Falkland Islands . We're glad we went when we could . We ranked the Falklands Islands as the best for penguins , Puerto Madryn second and Punta Arenas last . Some penguins from the Falklands .

 

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We looked a prices and HAL does 6 more days and 4 more ports and a glacier for only $430 more .

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GREAT photos!

 

How long are the walks to get to see the penguins?

(Are there any private excursions that can help someone get there with a vehicle?  Those distances look like they might be too far for me, and the end isn't even in sight yet!  I have a broken foot that didn't heal right... end of most of my athletic type activities, and hiking as well, unfortunateoly.)

 

Many thanks, once again.

And I'm "getting your message" about the advantages of the slightly longer cruise.  As long as we have gone all that distance, might as well do the best we can!
 

GC

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1 hour ago, GeezerCouple said:

GREAT photos!

 

How long are the walks to get to see the penguins?

(Are there any private excursions that can help someone get there with a vehicle?  Those distances look like they might be too far for me, and the end isn't even in sight yet!  I have a broken foot that didn't heal right... end of most of my athletic type activities, and hiking as well, unfortunateoly.)

 

Many thanks, once again.

And I'm "getting your message" about the advantages of the slightly longer cruise.  As long as we have gone all that distance, might as well do the best we can!
 

GC

 

Thanks . We each have a bad knee so we understand . In Punta Arenas we had get a cab to go downtown . There were about a hundred people in line in a small building to check in and we all had to pay in person . 2  buses back past the ship to the small boats . About an hour boat ride and no one would let us sit until we finally moved someone gear . We were in the boat on the left and a lady was blocking the front hatch with her crutches and she refused to move .

 

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The penguins were not far but the ground was slick , sloped and muddy in places .

 

In The Falkland Islands we tendered in and sat with 4 people with a guide and driver in a 4x4 . It's about 2 1/2 hours over pavement , gravel and off road for about 12 miles to see the penguins at Volunteer Point  so buckle in and hold on .

 

 

 

 

From there it's a fairly short walk under uneven terrain but watch out for penguin holes !

 

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Punto Tombo is the longest walk 

 

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It may be a mile to the end point and it's dry and warm so take water .

 

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Have you looked at our Travelogue ? It can be found here and it includes our whole trip .

 

 

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Interesting we just had to make the same choice.  Celebrity was out because it doesn't really spend enough time sailing in Antarctica - if you look at the times/dates it is there you only get a few hours total. The choice was between Princess for the 16 days and the one we looked at for 2021 for 20 days with HAL.  We have been to Antarctica (expedition ship) and this time we wanted to see it again as well as see the glaciers etc in Chile.  Princess essentially doesn't go there so for the price differential and seeing the glaciers we chose HAL.  We have not been on either cruise line but selected it solely based on the itinerary.  We also got an aft cabin - we have done this in Alaska and you don't have to run from side to side you get the entire view point from your rear facing balcony.  . 

 

 

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10 hours ago, tupper10 said:

Interesting we just had to make the same choice.  Celebrity was out because it doesn't really spend enough time sailing in Antarctica - if you look at the times/dates it is there you only get a few hours total. The choice was between Princess for the 16 days and the one we looked at for 2021 for 20 days with HAL.  We have been to Antarctica (expedition ship) and this time we wanted to see it again as well as see the glaciers etc in Chile.  Princess essentially doesn't go there so for the price differential and seeing the glaciers we chose HAL.  We have not been on either cruise line but selected it solely based on the itinerary.  We also got an aft cabin - we have done this in Alaska and you don't have to run from side to side you get the entire view point from your rear facing balcony.  . 

 

 

 

Very nice  !

Some views of the sister ship the Zuiderdam

 

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5191

 

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We preferred 5191 to keep the rain and snow off of the deck and our cameras in Iceland and Norway .

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13 hours ago, tupper10 said:

Interesting we just had to make the same choice.  Celebrity was out because it doesn't really spend enough time sailing in Antarctica - if you look at the times/dates it is there you only get a few hours total. The choice was between Princess for the 16 days and the one we looked at for 2021 for 20 days with HAL.  We have been to Antarctica (expedition ship) and this time we wanted to see it again as well as see the glaciers etc in Chile.  Princess essentially doesn't go there so for the price differential and seeing the glaciers we chose HAL.  We have not been on either cruise line but selected it solely based on the itinerary.  We also got an aft cabin - we have done this in Alaska and you don't have to run from side to side you get the entire view point from your rear facing balcony.  . 

 

 

 

There were no aft balconies on the Zaandam so we were on the Port side facing the land as we sailed from Santiago . If we heard or something on the camera on the other side we went to the back on our floor which was never crowded .

 

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The Iceberg was 11 miles long and took us almost an hour to pass !

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44 minutes ago, scubacruiserx2 said:

 

There were no aft balconies on the Zaandam so we were on the Port side facing the land as we sailed from Santiago . If we heard or something on the camera on the other side we went to the back on our floor which was never crowded .

 

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The Iceberg was 11 miles long and took us almost an hour to pass !

 

It's so hard to tell from photos only... Given the distance, was there a sense of size/majesty of this particularly large iceberg?  From "here" (the comfort/safety/boredom (!?) of home) from the photo only, it looks more like a distant coast covered in snow.  Do you get the sense that it is "one huge iceberg"?

 

And if not this one in particular, there *are* some like that, correct?

 

Thanks again!

 

GC

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1 hour ago, GeezerCouple said:

 

It's so hard to tell from photos only... Given the distance, was there a sense of size/majesty of this particularly large iceberg?  From "here" (the comfort/safety/boredom (!?) of home) from the photo only, it looks more like a distant coast covered in snow.  Do you get the sense that it is "one huge iceberg"?

 

And if not this one in particular, there *are* some like that, correct?

 

Thanks again!

 

GC

 

The reply to Tupper 10 was to tell him and others that there is an aft view on our deck with no cabins . That was the subject of the photo - not the iceberg . It's impossible to show 11 miles in a photo without shrinking the size of the subject . The Captain didn't want to get too close to the behemoth and we agreed  When we wanted to try to show the size of the iceberg we went up on the upper deck 

 

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It was hard to get good color separation because of the lack of light from the snow clouds

 

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59 minutes ago, scubacruiserx2 said:

 

The reply to Tupper 10 was to tell him and others that there is an aft view on our deck with no cabins . That was the subject of the photo - not the iceberg . It's impossible to show 11 miles in a photo without shrinking the size of the subject . The Captain didn't want to get too close to the behemoth and we agreed  When we wanted to try to show the size of the iceberg we went up on the upper deck 

 

<snip> with apologies to your lovely photos, but this thread will become 11 miles long if quoted photos within quotes continue :classic_biggrin:

 

Sorry I wasn't clear.  I meant could *YOU* personally get a real feel for some sort of size/majesty from the deck?

And regardless, did you "have that sensation" several times while cruising in the area those few days?

Do you get somewhat "up close and personal" to *any* serious icebergs?  I assume they can tell with sonar/radar/whatever how big the underwater portions of the icebergs are so there is no untoward event, etc.

 

It's probably impossible for us to get a sense of it without "being there" !

 

Thanks again.

I *am* looking at Antarctic cruises now, though DH may not know we may be about to make some sort of refundable deposit for way in the future!

 

It looks like HAL is the way to go for a "once ever" trip.

 

GC

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, GeezerCouple said:

 

<snip> with apologies to your lovely photos, but this thread will become 11 miles long if quoted photos within quotes continue :classic_biggrin:

 

Sorry I wasn't clear.  I meant could *YOU* personally get a real feel for some sort of size/majesty from the deck?

And regardless, did you "have that sensation" several times while cruising in the area those few days?

Do you get somewhat "up close and personal" to *any* serious icebergs?  I assume they can tell with sonar/radar/whatever how big the underwater portions of the icebergs are so there is no untoward event, etc.

 

It's probably impossible for us to get a sense of it without "being there" !

 

Thanks again.

I *am* looking at Antarctic cruises now, though DH may not know we may be about to make some sort of refundable deposit for way in the future!

 

It looks like HAL is the way to go for a "once ever" trip.

 

GC

 

 

 

 

If you can there are still some aft cabins available on the January 30th sailing on deck 7 - with cabins above and below - which is the price of a Veranda cabin.  Some of the aft cabins are suites and we didn't feel we needed the upgrade. You get a bit more noise but it gives you the best view if you get one in the middle.  It is very windy down south - the issue  isn't the cold - it is the wind - so it will be nice to come in from up on the deck to our room and still be able to run outside on our verandah and see 'both sides'.  BTW no need for heavy winter coats - the trick is layers and start with long underwear - hats, gloves, and neck warmers essential, with wind breaker type jacket.  If you book this cruise let me know would love to meet fellow cruisers.

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