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Considering a more luxurious cruise line but not when I read the reviews.

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We've cruised mainly on Holland America and I can look back and see that my reviews have all been four star.   So very good but not perfect.   However, it may be that I'm not overly hard to please.    I've seen that others have given a cruise I took a lower, sometimes much lower, review.   

 

From time to time I think about splurging a little.   Bearing in mind that we paid the same for a recent Alaska cruise with HAL that we paid 25 years earlier, I wondered what opening the purse strings a little would bring.   There are always some things that you feel could have been improved upon.   Or maybe there are heights of luxury I haven't imagined,   But when I peruse the reviews for lines like Regent and SilverSea I am disappointed, sometimes appalled.   I can't imagine spending $20,000 and not feeling I was in heaven for a week or more.   Some reviews are effusive but some . . . not so much.

 

Lately, I've been disappointed by cancelled ports due to weather.   Or too short a time in port.   Maybe due to weather or immigration issues.  No one's fault but it makes me lean towards a land based tour.   I would not want to book a cruise to the Galapagos or Easter Island and have weather prevent docking.

 

How do others feel?

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm perfectly happy sailing on Princess and Holland America. One of my friends will only sail on Oceania. She likes the smaller ships and excellent food. 

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$20000 for 7 days?Wow!

We are off on Tuesday with Silversea .... 10 nights .... For much less than half that price.

Next year we have a Crystal one booked for 14 nights for an almost identical price.

We moved from Princess to the above.

To be fair we are low maintenance and have had no problems with Silversea, although the last Silversea offering took a whole  15 minutes from arrival at the dock to having lunch after checking in 😁

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It's a matter of perceived value.  I'm considering my first cruise on Crystal in 2021.  It runs about $1,000/day.  That would be by far the most expensive cruise I've ever taken.  Is it worth it?  I don't know, and won't unless I give it a try.  I like small ships with no crowds, good service, good food, no competition for pool loungers, etc.  I'm sure I'll like it better than mass market lines.  Will that be worth the upcharge?  I'll let you know after I return😊

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13 hours ago, kira5 said:

Lately, I've been disappointed by cancelled ports due to weather.   Or too short a time in port.   Maybe due to weather or immigration issues.  No one's fault but it makes me lean towards a land based tour.

If by land, you would never have issues with too little time in port or port cancellations due to weather. I'm confident that booking 5 star hotels with the reputation of a Four Seasons property would be a very luxurious experience.

Cruises are always a crap shoot when it comes to weather and short port stops allow only a taste of any particular area. 

We enjoy both land visits and cruise visits (usually preferring land).

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Have heard a few negative things on Regent, Celebrity does Galapagos but that will be about 20k , while I would like to go there I am not willing to pay 20k. We do splurge and now book suites , prefer ships that have a suite dinning room like Luminae which is on all the celebrity ships. 

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There’s no way I could enjoy a cruise that cost anywhere near $1000 a day.  Even $500.  I don’t cruise to be treated like royalty; my wife takes care of that at home.  The “cabin experience” means nothing to me.  Is it clean and does my room steward take care of everything?  Same with a hotel, resort or otherwise.  We don’t go out to $200 dinners either so paying extra for a cruise because the food is perceived better would give me heartburn.  We don’t pay $50K for a car either.  For those that 1) have that kind of disposable income, 2) consider such things important, have at it.  My idea of heaven for a week is not dependent on how much money I spend.  

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16 hours ago, kira5 said:

We've cruised mainly on Holland America and I can look back and see that my reviews have all been four star.   So very good but not perfect.   However, it may be that I'm not overly hard to please.    I've seen that others have given a cruise I took a lower, sometimes much lower, review.   

 

From time to time I think about splurging a little.   Bearing in mind that we paid the same for a recent Alaska cruise with HAL that we paid 25 years earlier, I wondered what opening the purse strings a little would bring.   There are always some things that you feel could have been improved upon.   Or maybe there are heights of luxury I haven't imagined,   But when I peruse the reviews for lines like Regent and SilverSea I am disappointed, sometimes appalled.   I can't imagine spending $20,000 and not feeling I was in heaven for a week or more.   Some reviews are effusive but some . . . not so much.

 

Lately, I've been disappointed by cancelled ports due to weather.   Or too short a time in port.   Maybe due to weather or immigration issues.  No one's fault but it makes me lean towards a land based tour.   I would not want to book a cruise to the Galapagos or Easter Island and have weather prevent docking.

 

How do others feel?

 

We would never book or not book a cruise line or itinerary based on someones positive or negative opinion. 

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Not sure what feeling in heaven means  when cruising ??

We are trying Crystal   this year

We are not high maintenance   we do not need  a top suite or balcony

so sailing in an Ocean view  & no where near $1000 a day

 

 

Some like to have more things to do on a ship but still have the class system feeling  so the Ship within a ship  works for some people

at the end of the day though you are still on a large ship with lots of people

 

I think you have to try different lines  then decide what works best  for YOU

JMO

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18 hours ago, kira5 said:

 

Lately, I've been disappointed by cancelled ports due to weather.   Or too short a time in port.   Maybe due to weather or immigration issues.  No one's fault but it makes me lean towards a land based tour.   I would not want to book a cruise to the Galapagos or Easter Island and have weather prevent docking.

 

How do others feel?

 

 

Based on this, why not look at land travel/tours?  At least try and see. No cruise, however luxe, can promise to deliver things beyond their control -- weather can trump most other considerations on a ship.

 

Land "tours" have evolved -- you don't have to necessarily be part of one of those 45-seat bus tours that takes in a lot of cities and sites in a short time (rather like a cruise but less pleasant traveling....).  There are companies that let you build your own itineraries, and often you are on your own except they will arrange your logistics (e.g., you could opt to spend 4-5 days each in Rome, Florence, Venice and Naples -- they will provide hotel options that you can select from, they will give you airfare or train options that are often very reasonable, and they will offer the inclusion of pick-up/drop-off to from the airport/train station. You can choose to sightsee on your own or select some of their offered tours. 

 

Alternatively you can choose to go on a small-group "specialist" type of tour based on your interests. Their are several groups, for example (most seem to be based in the UK) that offer tours focused on various artistic, musical, foodie, historic, or archaeological themes. The benefit of these is often having a real expert with you to provide insight, plus they often offer you some exclusive highlights that cannot be arranged by individuals (for example, special access to an archaeological site, or prime tickets to an opera performance in Milan). Also, I tend to find it fun to meet other like-minded people. 

 

I like variety, so I often alternate between cruises, land travel that I arrange myself (usually a longer city-stay or several places in close proximity), and land tours. 

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19 hours ago, kira5 said:

We've cruised mainly on Holland America and I can look back and see that my reviews have all been four star.  

 

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Bearing in mind that we paid the same for a recent Alaska cruise with HAL that we paid 25 years earlier, I wondered what opening the purse strings a little would bring.   There are always some things that you feel could have been improved upon.   Or maybe there are heights of luxury I haven't imagined,   But when I peruse the reviews for lines like Regent and SilverSea I am disappointed, sometimes appalled.   I can't imagine spending $20,000 and not feeling I was in heaven for a week or more.   

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It’s good to see someone able to recognize the necessary connection between holding the line on prices and diminishing product quality over the years.  

 

Of course on board food and service quality must be shaved, add-on charges must be imposed, port stays must be shortened to enable reduced speed (fuel saving) travel between between ports —- if fares are to be held down.

 

But you do not have to pay $20,000 for a week of good service , just accept the fact that you will not get top quality for something like $100 per person per day (but you can get quite a lot for up to $500 per person per day — or $7,000 a week) just focus on lines of which you have heard good reports, pick itineraries which attract you (including port stays of reasonable length) — just find something you think you will like, do not look for the lowest per diem cost, and pick a ship which seems to offer what you want —- while being mature enough to realize that sometimes weather may require cancellation or truncation of a port call.

 

A quarter century ago cruising was essentially a luxury option - today the mass market lines have decided to go after the average Joe and Jane —- their product bears little resemblance to what it used to be.

 

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It sound, to me, that you might want to try a good river cruise.  I don't know of too many missed ports on river cruises,  Other than possibly smaller cabins that you may want, I had a wonderful time.  Great food, lazy days on board when not going to sites on land, great staff-to-guest ratio.   Now, my cruise was on the Nile on a "5 star" ship through Abercrombie & Kent, the Nile Adventurer.  Only 32 cabins.  The chef had been named Best on the Nile.  So luxurious and relaxing... 

 

I'd love to try a river cruise on the Mosel... 

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It sounds like the folks giving consistently bad reviews on the "luxury" lines have sailed them for a long time, and are seeing the "tightening of the purse strings" that has been happening on ALL the lines.   If you've been happy with HAL, you'll probably love a true "luxury" line, until you get used to it!

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5 hours ago, cb at sea said:

It sounds like the folks giving consistently bad reviews on the "luxury" lines have sailed them for a long time, and are seeing the "tightening of the purse strings" that has been happening on ALL the lines.   If you've been happy with HAL, you'll probably love a true "luxury" line, until you get used to it!

From experience very true.  

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11 hours ago, davekathy said:

We would never book or not book a cruise line or itinerary based on someones positive or negative opinion. 

 

Very good advice, IMO.   I read something similar a long time ago and thought it made a lot of sense.  Who knows, maybe it was you saying it back then too.   Haha

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I have only been on four ocean cruise lines, and while we have never tried the luxury lines, we typically step up to Oceania, which tries to position itself between the mass market lines and the luxury lines.  Oceania is well known for its food, and we do enjoy that, and it is clearly better, IMHO, than HAL, Disney or Carnival. We also like the smaller ships and somewhat better overall service.  We give up the high-end shows each night.  And you can get this for well under $1,000 per day, though a couple could spend that much if you move up to a penthouse cabin.

 

Riverboat cruises miss fewer ports, but do miss them occasionally.  But riverboats are a very different experience.  Worth a try but with far fewer places to visit.

 

Like many other responders, we don’t need a butler or free beverages, and prefer to set up our own tours, so we have not thought too seriously about the luxury lines.  But trying different lines might give the OP a broader perspective. 

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On 10/18/2019 at 6:20 PM, kira5 said:

I can't imagine spending $20,000 and not feeling I was in heaven for a week

 

 

 

 

 


Holy cow!! $20,000 for a 7 day cruise!!

 

i wished I lived in your tax bracket

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One of the nicest feelings is that you only need to pull out your keycard to enter your room.  Otherwise, it just stays in your pocket.

 

You also might forget how to sign your name by the end of your trip (from lack of use).

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"luxurious"

This has different meaning, to different people, for some Carnival is Luxurious and for others Carnival is their version of McDonalds and Silversea is there Michelin.

 

 

Or put another way how much does each incremental $ buy you from or what does each $ spent get versus expectation.   If you expect nothing even Carnival can be viewed as luxurious, LOL

 

 

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If a particular port means that much, it has to be land and hope nothing messes the flights.

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On 10/18/2019 at 8:32 PM, mnocket said:

It's a matter of perceived value.  I'm considering my first cruise on Crystal in 2021.  It runs about $1,000/day.  That would be by far the most expensive cruise I've ever taken.  Is it worth it?  I don't know, and won't unless I give it a try.  I like small ships with no crowds, good service, good food, no competition for pool loungers, etc.  I'm sure I'll like it better than mass market lines.  Will that be worth the upcharge?  I'll let you know after I return😊

 

Are you talking per person or per suite?

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6 hours ago, Luckiestmanonearth said:


Holy cow!! $20,000 for a 7 day cruise!!

 

i wished I lived in your tax bracket

Went to a talk on celebrity Galapagos ten day cruise and they would not give price but said it was over 20k .

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Our expectations are fairly simple, we have no desire to cruise with screaming kids, no desire to visit casinos and are tired of annoying photogs sticking a camera in your face every time you disembark and numerous other times around the ship. Similar to a previous reply, we are tired of providing our cabin card repeatedly.

 

Therefore, we are happy to pay a higher cruise fare for a premium/luxury vessel. Based on how we cruise, while the cruise fare is higher the total cruise cost is not much different to mainstream cruises. If the meals are better, as we expect they will be that is simply a bonus.

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The more you pay for something the higher your expectations so when your expectations fall short it makes people want to vent while those who had an amzing time don't think to write their accounts out online. Unless the reviews are all reporting the same consistent issue I wouldn't take them too seriously. The chances that you will have the same circumstances that the reviewers have are very slim and always remember more people have been on the cruises than have reviewed them so the negative reviewers are really a tiny minority🤗.

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22 hours ago, Silver Sweethearts said:

 

Are you talking per person or per suite?

Sorry, I should have noted that price is for 2 pax in a balcony.

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