AtlantaCruiser72 Posted December 5, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Princess has made some updates to their Europe 2021 lineup. Key additions are some additional sailings on Island to Israel in the fall and Pacific being added to the 2021 deployment sailing 12 night cruises between Venice and Rome that can be combined into a 24 day voyage with no port repeats. Pacific also does a unique 41 day re-positioning voyage from Tokyo to Rome in May/June 2021. https://book.princess.com/pdf/onesource/pc/sales_marketing/Destination/europe/PC_2021EuropeReferenceFlyerNov19.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Junky Posted December 5, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Very interesting. I guess Enchanted's current Fall TA is cancelled and she's going to Singapore. Thanks for posting EDIT...now I'm confused...both her TA and Suez are on there. Edited December 5, 2019 by Cruise Junky 1 Link to post Share on other sites
snoozecrooze Posted December 5, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said: Pacific also does a unique 41 day re-positioning voyage from Tokyo to Rome in May/June 2021. Well, @AtlantaCruiser72, sounds like the small chat we had a few weeks ago of Pacific maybe visiting Alaska in 2021 has been squashed. Very interesting development. 55 minutes ago, Cruise Junky said: Very interesting. I guess Enchanted's current Fall TA is cancelled and she's going to Singapore. Thanks for posting I also noticed this and think the (assumed) mistake would actually be pretty shocking to anyone who doesn't read carefully. My bet is that it was most likely ultimately meant for Pacific...but I haven't really checked if the dates actually align so who knows? Maybe Enchanted really is going away from North America? Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Junky Posted December 5, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, snoozecrooze said: Well, @AtlantaCruiser72, sounds like the small chat we had a few weeks ago of Pacific maybe visiting Alaska in 2021 has been squashed. Very interesting development. I also noticed this and think the (assumed) mistake would actually be pretty shocking to anyone who doesn't read carefully. My bet is that it was most likely ultimately meant for Pacific...but I haven't really checked if the dates actually align so who knows? Maybe Enchanted really is going away from North America? They're showing Pacific going to Lauderdale from Venice. Hmmmm Link to post Share on other sites
piper28 Posted December 5, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, snoozecrooze said: Well, @AtlantaCruiser72, sounds like the small chat we had a few weeks ago of Pacific maybe visiting Alaska in 2021 has been squashed. Very interesting development. I'm just glad to see Pacific is staying in the main fleet and not staying in australia. Interesting that it looks like it'll be back in FLL in early Nov 2021. Normally they don't have it back here until late december. Wonder what exactly they'll be doing with her then. Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted December 5, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I didn't look in detail at the "new" passages - it does seem that there are some changes happening with post Europe 2021 deployments. It will be interesting to watch as the dust settles as to which ships ends up where. Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Junky Posted December 5, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'd love to do the Suez on Enchantment. We're currently booked on her for the 21 Spring TA. Link to post Share on other sites
Ken the cruiser Posted December 6, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) How new is this publication? We're currently booked on a Northern Lights cruise on the Island which begins Oct 5, 2021, but this publication says the Island is now heading from Southampton to Rome. Then I went and checked the Princess website, and our itinerary is still listed. Definitely curious to see what happens next. Edited December 6, 2019 by Ken the cruiser Link to post Share on other sites
snoozecrooze Posted December 6, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ken the cruiser said: How new is this publication? We're currently booked on a Northern Lights cruise on the Island which begins Oct 5, 2021, but this publication says the Island is now heading from Southampton to Rome. Then I went and checked the Princess website, and our itinerary is still listed. Definitely curious to see what happens next. It was technically released today (although we won't know when they actually made the document) and it has quite a few listings that do not align with what they've released prior to this. So we've yet to see if they will release a press release finalizing their plans. Link to post Share on other sites
Steelers36 Posted December 6, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I was studying the PDF provided by the OP and there are several conflicts showing the same ship on two different voyages at the same time. Not sure which is correct, unless check Princess website, but these are mostly all new release stuff that isn't up for viewing until sales open. I did receive a heads-up email for the Elite booking window. Link to post Share on other sites
Ken the cruiser Posted December 6, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, snoozecrooze said: It was technically released today (although we won't know when they actually made the document) and it has quite a few listings that do not align with what they've released prior to this. So we've yet to see if they will release a press release finalizing their plans. I hear you. We just looked farther down and found our Northern Lights Oct 5th cruise in the Norway & Iceland section. I guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Junky Posted December 6, 2019 #12 Share Posted December 6, 2019 There will certainly be some disappointed people if Enchanted’s fall TA is cancelled. Their roll call seems quite robust. I guess we’ll wait and see. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BarbinMich Posted December 6, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) I just looked on the website for Europe for 2021 and noticed there will be a new ship, "Discovery P" debuting in Nov 2021. Its inaugural cruise will be a 7-day in the Med (11/3/21). It will do the Med until 11/24 when it will start a 14-day "Spanish Passage" to Ft. Lauderdale. It will do a variety (both in length and ports) of itineraries until 1/6/21 when it will embark on an 18-day South American cruise to Buenos Aires. Then a leg to Chile and, finally, a passage from Chile to LA in 2/2021. Looks like it will then be doing west coast US itineraries. The website says the Discovery will be the last of the "Royal" ships. Have I missed a thread about this ship? Edited December 6, 2019 by BarbinMich Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted December 7, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted December 7, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 10:03 PM, steelers36 said: I was studying the PDF provided by the OP and there are several conflicts showing the same ship on two different voyages at the same time. Not sure which is correct, unless check Princess website, but these are mostly all new release stuff that isn't up for viewing until sales open. I did receive a heads-up email for the Elite booking window. I think there is some "cleanup" work to be done. It seems Princess decided to move Pacific to Europe, shuffle some previously announced sailings around and possibly be deploying Enchanted to the Pacific in Fall 2021 rather than sending her back to the Caribbean. This is all subject to change and if I see an updated/corrected deployment sheet will post the link Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted December 7, 2019 Author #15 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, BarbinMich said: I just looked on the website for Europe for 2021 and noticed there will be a new ship, "Discovery P" debuting in Nov 2021. Its inaugural cruise will be a 7-day in the Med (11/3/21). It will do the Med until 11/24 when it will start a 14-day "Spanish Passage" to Ft. Lauderdale. It will do a variety (both in length and ports) of itineraries until 1/6/21 when it will embark on an 18-day South American cruise to Buenos Aires. Then a leg to Chile and, finally, a passage from Chile to LA in 2/2021. Looks like it will then be doing west coast US itineraries. The website says the Discovery will be the last of the "Royal" ships. Have I missed a thread about this ship? Princess announced Discovery Princess' inaugural season awhile back (early October), and I'm sure there have been several discussions about it. Here is the link to the Deployment Summary from Princess: https://book.princess.com/pdf/onesource/pc/sales_marketing/Destination/2021_2022_program_launch/discovery_princess/PC_DiscoveryPrincess_ReferenceFlyer_09_2019_FINAL-s.pdf Edited December 7, 2019 by AtlantaCruiser72 Link to post Share on other sites
cruisequeen4ever Posted December 7, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 7, 2019 How interesting! It’s nice to see some different itins offered; maybe I can get hubby to go back to Europe in the summer again!! 😬 Link to post Share on other sites
pompeii Posted December 14, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Monday will be my first time booking during the elite booking window. 😁 Can I book a courtesy hold during this window, or do I need to put down an actual deposit and make it official? Link to post Share on other sites
Ken the cruiser Posted December 14, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, pompeii said: Monday will be my first time booking during the elite booking window. 😁 Can I book a courtesy hold during this window, or do I need to put down an actual deposit and make it official? I'm not elite yet, so I don't have an answer for you. But what new cruise itineraries are coming out Monday? Link to post Share on other sites
pompeii Posted December 14, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ken the cruiser said: I'm not elite yet, so I don't have an answer for you. But what new cruise itineraries are coming out Monday? My email mentioned 2021 Alaska, Europe and Japan. Edited December 14, 2019 by pompeii Link to post Share on other sites
Ken the cruiser Posted December 14, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, pompeii said: My email mentioned 2021 Alaska, Europe and Japan. Interesting. I thought all of the 2021 itineraries had been posted. We're waiting for the Jan - Apr 2022 cruises, other than the new Discovery 2022 itineraries that were posted in the fall. Edited December 14, 2019 by Ken the cruiser Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted December 14, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, pompeii said: My email mentioned 2021 Alaska, Europe and Japan. 1 hour ago, Ken the cruiser said: Interesting. I thought all of the 2021 itineraries had been posted. We're waiting for the Jan - Apr 2022 cruises, other than the new Discovery 2022 itineraries that were posted in the fall. Alaska and Japan are new releases, Europe is revision to existing schedule and adding new itineraries on the Pacific Princess 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cruisequeen4ever Posted December 15, 2019 #22 Share Posted December 15, 2019 22 hours ago, pompeii said: Monday will be my first time booking during the elite booking window. 😁 Can I book a courtesy hold during this window, or do I need to put down an actual deposit and make it official? You can do a courtesy hold. The only downside I’ve noticed with the Elite window is it has forced a much higher deposit. If I wait a day and book regularly, the deposit drops to the sale price. Link to post Share on other sites
CruiseVA Posted December 16, 2019 #23 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Did I miss something, I can't seem to find a lot of the cruises listed in this... Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Junky Posted December 16, 2019 #24 Share Posted December 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, CruiseVA said: Did I miss something, I can't seem to find a lot of the cruises listed in this... Not on sale yet. Elites I believe received an email. Link to post Share on other sites
CruiseVA Posted December 16, 2019 #25 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) That explains it - any idea when they'll get the email? Edited December 16, 2019 by CruiseVA Link to post Share on other sites
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