Rare kernow Posted February 7, 2020 #376 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just cancelled our Quantum cruise from Singapore next week. With the ever changing situation we just decided it was too risky, not so much of us getting the virus but being put in quarantine and getting stuck somewhere. We booked the whole thing with a UK ta who is refunding us in full, we might all moan about the inflated UK prices but grateful for all the protection when something goes wrong. At the same time we booked to fly out to Dubai next Wednesday and board Jewel the following Monday so not all bad news! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyDillo Posted February 7, 2020 #377 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, ARandomTraveler said: This is also why I have mentioned people should consider buying cancel for any reason insurance. This form of insurance has stipulations as well and is not a blanket catch-all for every situation where typical travel insurance doesn't apply. I cringe when I see people make this recommendation when most people have not read through exactly what a CFAR policy actually covers. Some only offer partial coverage (75% is common) so you are out the other portion plus cost of the insurance when you have to make a claim. There are also stipulations for notifying the carrier that you are cancelling 48 to 72 hours of departure to where you can't just decide day of you don't want to go and no-show. Plus if your CFAR insurance is for your entire trip (from when you leave home until you return) you can't just claim CFAR for a portion of the trip. You began your trip when you left your house and CFAR coverage ceased 24-72 prior to that. It's better than nothing in some cases, but if you insured your entire trip (including flights and whatnot) and decide to cancel a cruise in the middle of that trip, CFAR won't apply. If you buy CFAR just for the cruise itself and cancel in enough time, then you could get some money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEBLUE66 Posted February 7, 2020 #378 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, kernow said: Just cancelled our Quantum cruise from Singapore next week. With the ever changing situation we just decided it was too risky, not so much of us getting the virus but being put in quarantine and getting stuck somewhere. We booked the whole thing with a UK ta who is refunding us in full, we might all moan about the inflated UK prices but grateful for all the protection when something goes wrong. At the same time we booked to fly out to Dubai next Wednesday and board Jewel the following Monday so not all bad news! Fully understand where you are coming from as the situation is changing daily. Also booked through a U.K. travel agent on this occasion but will hold off for now as we have longer to go until our cruise. Enjoy Dubai, should be a nice temperature. Love the Jewel also, going back on in October {hopefully!}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonsmama224 Posted February 7, 2020 #379 Share Posted February 7, 2020 As much as I hate to say this.....I think ALL CRUISE SHIPS need to STOP CRUISING ANYWHERE. It's the responsible thing to do. And "Yes" I realize this could be catastrophic for the bottom line but at what point do we put lives above profit? We are scheduled to cruise in May so "yes" I do have a horse in this race. I'm just not thinking the risk outweighs the enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted February 7, 2020 #380 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Wilsonsmama224 said: As much as I hate to say this.....I think ALL CRUISE SHIPS need to STOP CRUISING ANYWHERE. It's the responsible thing to do. And "Yes" I realize this could be catastrophic for the bottom line but at what point do we put lives above profit? We are scheduled to cruise in May so "yes" I do have a horse in this race. I'm just not thinking the risk outweighs the enjoyment. Shut down air travel too...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonsmama224 Posted February 7, 2020 #381 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Oh my goodness! There lies the question. You are absolutely right. Where do we draw the line?? We've never been put in this situation before so I guess I have to ask what measures need to be taken to contain this virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonsmama224 Posted February 7, 2020 #382 Share Posted February 7, 2020 This is so serious and yet as I pose the question.....you have to believe that the Centers for Disease Control are looking at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grumpus Posted February 7, 2020 #383 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Wilsonsmama224 said: As much as I hate to say this.....I think ALL CRUISE SHIPS need to STOP CRUISING ANYWHERE. It's the responsible thing to do. And "Yes" I realize this could be catastrophic for the bottom line but at what point do we put lives above profit? We are scheduled to cruise in May so "yes" I do have a horse in this race. I'm just not thinking the risk outweighs the enjoyment. That seems a little over the top at the moment. I can see temporarily suspending Asian itineraries now and until further notice as that region seems to be where the bulk of the virus is spreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARandomTraveler Posted February 7, 2020 #384 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, AshleyDillo said: This form of insurance has stipulations as well and is not a blanket catch-all for every situation where typical travel insurance doesn't apply. I cringe when I see people make this recommendation when most people have not read through exactly what a CFAR policy actually covers. Some only offer partial coverage (75% is common) so you are out the other portion plus cost of the insurance when you have to make a claim. There are also stipulations for notifying the carrier that you are cancelling 48 to 72 hours of departure to where you can't just decide day of you don't want to go and no-show. Plus if your CFAR insurance is for your entire trip (from when you leave home until you return) you can't just claim CFAR for a portion of the trip. You began your trip when you left your house and CFAR coverage ceased 24-72 prior to that. It's better than nothing in some cases, but if you insured your entire trip (including flights and whatnot) and decide to cancel a cruise in the middle of that trip, CFAR won't apply. If you buy CFAR just for the cruise itself and cancel in enough time, then you could get some money back. These are all true stipulations (I’ve mentioned them before in other posts) but you can actually use it for just a portion of a trip if it comes with the trip interruption clause. You just have to have spent at least 48 hours on the vacation before you can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted February 7, 2020 #385 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, kernow said: Just cancelled our Quantum cruise from Singapore next week. With the ever changing situation we just decided it was too risky, not so much of us getting the virus but being put in quarantine and getting stuck somewhere. We booked the whole thing with a UK ta who is refunding us in full, we might all moan about the inflated UK prices but grateful for all the protection when something goes wrong. At the same time we booked to fly out to Dubai next Wednesday and board Jewel the following Monday so not all bad news! I think I commented some months ago that I was looking forward to your views on the cruise as we were tempted to do the same itinerary at a later date. Very disappointed for you but I think you've done the right thing (and for the very reasons you give) and very glad to hear you were reimbursed in full - we always book with a UK TA despite others singing the praises of booking in the US and this shows how valuable UK protection is. Hope you enjoy your Jewel cruise very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kernow Posted February 7, 2020 #386 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bobal said: I think I commented some months ago that I was looking forward to your views on the cruise as we were tempted to do the same itinerary at a later date. Very disappointed for you but I think you've done the right thing (and for the very reasons you give) and very glad to hear you were reimbursed in full - we always book with a UK TA despite others singing the praises of booking in the US and this shows how valuable UK protection is. Hope you enjoy your Jewel cruise very much Thanks, really disappointed not to be going on Quantum as it was a new ship for us. As things stand at the moment there are similar cruises next year so we'll wait and see what happens and may re-book for then. We love Jewel and Dubai so happy to be going there, fingers crossed for no more dramas! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cekim Posted February 7, 2020 #387 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Perfect thanks very much for that. I am waiting for a call back been on the phone but the girl i spoke to was the wrong dept and could not help. Said someone will phone today, tomorrow or soon. Thanks again Enjoy Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted February 7, 2020 #388 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, mochuck said: I also just noticed Royal Caribbean has a Facebook page that you could complain on. They have one, but good luck with that. Many complain, few are resolved... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerginator Posted February 7, 2020 #389 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Based on the information in this link: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/anthem-of-the-seas-updates It looks like the protocol is being updated now from: Additional health screenings for anyone that holds a Chinese, Hong Kong, or Macau passport – regardless of when they were there last. to: Any guests holding a Chinese, Hong Kong, or Macau passport, regardless of when they were there last, will not be allowed to board our ships 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxHadleyxx Posted February 7, 2020 #390 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Gerginator said: Based on the information in this link: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-ships/anthem-of-the-seas-updates It looks like the protocol is being updated now from: Additional health screenings for anyone that holds a Chinese, Hong Kong, or Macau passport – regardless of when they were there last. to: Any guests holding a Chinese, Hong Kong, or Macau passport, regardless of when they were there last, will not be allowed to board our ships Well that new policy feels discriminatory to me. So a citizen of Hong Kong who has, for example, been living and studying in Toronto for the past three years and not returned to Asia in all that time would be denied boarding simply because if his nationality? I'm all for safety measures, but that's just blatent xenophobia. I hope RCI rethinks this quickly. I generally like the company. I can understand why issuing FCCs is happening (though also understand why it's frustrating to many). But this? Yeah, it really rubs me the wrong way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheSoul Posted February 7, 2020 #391 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, xxHadleyxx said: I'm all for safety measures, but that's just blatent xenophobia. Good grief. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachChik Posted February 7, 2020 #392 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, BHannis said: Does anyone know what RCL is doing with those who show up to the terminal with a cough, but it's due to a cold or other non-coronavirus reason? Are they just denying boarding to everyone with these symptoms or is that just based on the additional screening? With it being cold and flu season in the US, I see this scenario happening a lot. I am concerned about this being that I just received a new email that now states: Additionally, there will be mandatory specialized health screenings performed on: Guests who are unsure if they have been in contact with individuals who have traveled from, to or through mainland China or Hong Kong in the past 15 days. Guests who report feeling unwell or demonstrate any flu-like symptoms. Any guest presenting with fever or low blood oximetry in the specialized health screening will be denied boarding. I'm traveling with two small kids who could run a low grade fever from something like teething. And what is flu like symptoms? Someone with the sniffles could be pulled aside and denied? And realistically someone that has a cold could run a low fever but feel ok enough to travel. I have a cold right now but I feel fine. Edited February 7, 2020 by BeachChik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennyumaa Posted February 7, 2020 #393 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, xxHadleyxx said: So a citizen of Hong Kong who has, for example, been living and studying in Toronto for the past three years and not returned to Asia in all that time would be denied boarding simply because if his nationality? I had the same question. Is it even legal? Why would passport matter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Hanaki Posted February 7, 2020 #394 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LoveTheSoul said: Good grief. Good grief unless it applies to you. They are doing this to a billion people for 50,000 cases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheSoul Posted February 7, 2020 #395 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Pochi Hanaki said: Good grief unless it applies to you. They are doing this to a billion people for 50,000 cases. For SAFETY! Not because they are against a particular race. Edited February 7, 2020 by LoveTheSoul 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotwarner Posted February 7, 2020 #396 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, xxHadleyxx said: Well that new policy feels discriminatory to me. So a citizen of Hong Kong who has, for example, been living and studying in Toronto for the past three years and not returned to Asia in all that time would be denied boarding simply because if his nationality? I'm all for safety measures, but that's just blatent xenophobia. I hope RCI rethinks this quickly. I generally like the company. I can understand why issuing FCCs is happening (though also understand why it's frustrating to many). But this? Yeah, it really rubs me the wrong way. I totally agree. There are people who hold citizenship of a country they have never even been to because their parents or grandparents are from that country. And there are people who have lived in a country their entire life without being a citizen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Hanaki Posted February 7, 2020 #397 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, LoveTheSoul said: For SAFETY! Not because they have something against a particular race. Tell me what does having a Chinese passport do anything about safety. If you haven't been to China in a year why do they need to be screened???? Should they screen every american because there was a case in New Jersey? It is a bunch of fear mongering directed towards one country basically even though lots of countries are effected. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTheSoul Posted February 7, 2020 #398 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pochi Hanaki said: Should they screen every american because there was a case in New Jersey? I wouldn't be opposed to that at all if it's for the safety of my health and others that also live on this planet. I wouldn't once think of it as a race issue. Edited February 7, 2020 by LoveTheSoul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pochi Hanaki Posted February 7, 2020 #399 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, LoveTheSoul said: I wouldn't be opposed to that at all if it's for the safety of my health and others that also live on this planet. I would not once think this is because of my race. Um xenophobia is not race... American is not a race. but you notice even though Americans have the virus they are not signaled out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaeric Posted February 7, 2020 #400 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, dotwarner said: I totally agree. There are people who hold citizenship of a country they have never even been to because their parents or grandparents are from that country. And there are people who have lived in a country their entire life without being a citizen. I think they are now playing the odds more. Since they have added "have you had contact with anyone from the area" question, they fully know that people are going to lie- just like they do for the health quiz. While it's far from universal, the odds of someone with a passport from the area contacting someone there is much higher than the nominal population. Besides, the demands for our public safety forces the CDC and all travel companies to at least LOOK like they are doing something. Not fair, sure. But playing the odds makes it kind of suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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