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27 minutes ago, ed01106 said:

Things that will happen before I buy.

 

1. Both WHO and CDC declares the pandemic to have ended.

 

2. Cruise lines resume operations.  

 

 

If you could only know this info the day BEFORE it happens.  Not suggesting insider trader or anything...wink...wink🤨

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So tell me if I have this right..........I put in to buy 100 shares, then put in the price that I want to buy it at, then select limit, day.

 

That's mean if the actual price of the stock would get there, it buys it automatically right, I wouldn't have to keep watching to pick it up right? is this correct?

 

I also assume that price I selected , the offer only lasts to the end of the day and then it is canceled if the price doesn't get to there. Is this correct?

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2 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

So tell me if I have this right..........I put in to buy 100 shares, then put in the price that I want to buy it at, then select limit, day.

 

That's mean if the actual price of the stock would get there, it buys it automatically right, I wouldn't have to keep watching to pick it up right? is this correct?

 

I also assume that price I selected , the offer only lasts to the end of the day and then it is canceled if the price doesn't get to there. Is this correct?


That is correct.  

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9 minutes ago, irzero said:

No matter what price you pay now 35 or 25 usd per share or even 15 usd.

It's either going to survive this or it wont. If it doesn't then you are SOL anyway. If it does you are going to see a profit of 4 or 5 times investment eventually.

I got my 100 shares for the free credit long term. If I'm lucky I'll see enough value appreciation that I'll 4x my investment plus get paid a dividend which makes it a no brainer...

If it survives

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For me it is all about survival.  Your reasoning is all very sound and why I am about to pull the trigger.  I am waiting to see what the next 2 weeks bring and how RCI seems to be handling things.  If I can get the investor bennies and cash the shares in a couple of decades later I am confident this is a sound plan.  That all hinges on if they survive.

 

Thinking about looking into Disney as well.  Anyone ahead of me on that?

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1 minute ago, Bradison said:

 

If you could only know this info the day BEFORE it happens.  Not suggesting insider trader or anything...wink...wink🤨

I know I won’t be buying at the absolute bottom. I figure to pay. 10 to 20 % more than the low point.   

 

I am okay with that. I would rather buy on the way up than the way down. And it going to zero is possible. 

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2 minutes ago, Bradison said:

Thinking about looking into Disney as well.  Anyone ahead of me on that?

 

Looks like the 30 day history shows a drop from $139 to $93.  Drop of 33%.  I think they have the cash to weather the storm and could be a buyer if RCI folds.

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2 minutes ago, irzero said:

If I'm honest I'd rather buy shell oil.

The dividend is 15% and worth more than free credit on a cruise ship. Oil has a bigger chance of price recovery than cruise lines do at the moment.

If I wasnt sitting on a paper loss already on royal I'd correct my mistake

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Agreed on looking into Oil.  Their dip seems artificial but I haven't researched it enough.  My fear of that industry is just what is happening.  Strategic posturing and playing chicken offsets the normal market forces of a highly desirable commodity.  Love the dividends though.  I am not in the game nearly enough to playing the ins and outs of the day traders. 

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10 minutes ago, Bradison said:

 

For me it is all about survival.  Your reasoning is all very sound and why I am about to pull the trigger.  I am waiting to see what the next 2 weeks bring and how RCI seems to be handling things.  If I can get the investor bennies and cash the shares in a couple of decades later I am confident this is a sound plan.  That all hinges on if they survive.

 

Thinking about looking into Disney as well.  Anyone ahead of me on that?

I'm buying Disney. I still haven't pulled the trigger on RCL I'm waiting for it to go down in the teens. 

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3 minutes ago, cruisingnewtoit said:

I'm buying Disney. I still haven't pulled the trigger on RCL I'm waiting for it to go down in the teens. 

 

Just looking at the ratios of the 2, it is not even close.  I am going to wait on RCI and look hard at the Mouse. 

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20 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

So tell me if I have this right..........I put in to buy 100 shares, then put in the price that I want to buy it at, then select limit, day.

 

That's mean if the actual price of the stock would get there, it buys it automatically right, I wouldn't have to keep watching to pick it up right? is this correct?

 

I also assume that price I selected , the offer only lasts to the end of the day and then it is canceled if the price doesn't get to there. Is this correct?

You don't have to select day for the limit. If you are determined to buy you don't have to let it expire and it will automatically go through whenever your price is reached.

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5 minutes ago, irzero said:

End of the day they have 1.3bln cash and credit to get through this storm.

On the up side they might have to offer some value and decent food on board in the near term to get people sailing again.

A renewed focus on customer service and value for money is exactly what this line needed. Nothing like a near death experience to remind you that customers can vote with their wallet any time they want.

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And once again, no one is chiming in and saying don't let the door hit you in the a$$. Now there really aren't a boat load of people just clamoring to take your place.

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On 2/26/2020 at 3:46 PM, rimmit said:

unlikely to hit that now,  but the point is a reference for just how low it can go.   I believe the previous high when it went to 5.00 was around $30 or so at the time,  so it dropped down to 1/6 value.  RCI has half the ships then, but the point is that it’s a mass sell off in a recession.

 

If RCI has a ship with corona or the Caribbean gets corona it’s hard to say just how low it can go.

 

Its definitely not a bad buy now,  just be prepared for it to fall even more if you buy in now.

^^^ This. Thank you rimmit for this insight on how the stock behaved last time there was a crisis. You posted this observation when the stock was $82 three weeks ago. There were a few days since then when the price was up over 10% intraday, but I kept waiting because North America was still expecting more bad news.

My limit order just got filled for 200 shares @ 1/6 the price of 52-week high.

Is there a potential for another 40% drop? Sure, but then there are also good chances for a bankruptcy filing. The company itself will survive. The shareholders might get wiped out in the process but I'm now willing to take this chance. The news from China over the past two days are really good. I think we're less than six weeks away from the worst day of the pandemic in USA, which will take place weeks after China and Italy demonstrate that it's manageable albeit with great sufferings and loss of human life.

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2 hours ago, irzero said:

 

Id happily see my investment languish for a good while so royal can learn how to treat its customers again. I hope after all this ends they have to really struggle to get their customers back on board. 

 

 

Do you think that anyone cares what you think?

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14 minutes ago, PatMunits said:

^^^ This. Thank you rimmit for this insight on how the stock behaved last time there was a crisis. You posted this observation when the stock was $82 three weeks ago. There were a few days since then when the price was up over 10% intraday, but I kept waiting because North America was still expecting more bad news.

My limit order just got filled for 200 shares @ 1/6 the price of 52-week high.

Is there a potential for another 40% drop? Sure, but then there are also good chances for a bankruptcy filing. The company itself will survive. The shareholders might get wiped out in the process but I'm now willing to take this chance. The news from China over the past two days are really good. I think we're less than six weeks away from the worst day of the pandemic in USA, which will take place weeks after China and Italy demonstrate that it's manageable albeit with great sufferings and loss of human life.

Last time I bought RCL stock was when the market plummeted several years ago. Did well. yesterday I took a look and bought at $28 for 100 now it dropped a lot today. That is fine. It will climb again. In the meantime I have two RCL cruises coming. The OBC is nice.

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I will still wait. Stock dropped 25% so far today. Think low side will fall between $ 10.00 - $ 15.00. If they fail so start sailings after 30 days you will see huge cash flow decrease. Stock price below $ 10.00.

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3 hours ago, Jimbo said:

So tell me if I have this right..........I put in to buy 100 shares, then put in the price that I want to buy it at, then select limit, day.

 

That's mean if the actual price of the stock would get there, it buys it automatically right, I wouldn't have to keep watching to pick it up right? is this correct?

 

I also assume that price I selected , the offer only lasts to the end of the day and then it is canceled if the price doesn't get to there. Is this correct?

 

This is not actually correct. If the price of the stock gets to your offer price, you will get the stock IF there is enough stock offered  at that price. They can only sell the stock available so you might or night not get it. It's like some of other business say "limited quantities". Been there done that.

Also, I would suggest not buying for this just for the dividend, I'm sure it has to go before they can get any help from the government or anybody else. According to their financial statement, if the dividend holds as is they will pay out about $650,000,000 in 2020. Would you give free or low interest money that's paying a 11-12% dividend to it's shareholders?

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20 minutes ago, grandgeezer said:

 

This is not actually correct. If the price of the stock gets to your offer price, you will get the stock IF there is enough stock offered  at that price. They can only sell the stock available so you might or night not get it. It's like some of other business say "limited quantities". Been there done that.

Also, I would suggest not buying for this just for the dividend, I'm sure it has to go before they can get any help from the government or anybody else. According to their financial statement, if the dividend holds as is they will pay out about $650,000,000 in 2020. Would you give free or low interest money that's paying a 11-12% dividend to it's shareholders?

How do yo know how much is available?

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3 hours ago, Bradison said:

 

Agreed on looking into Oil.  Their dip seems artificial but I haven't researched it enough.  My fear of that industry is just what is happening.  Strategic posturing and playing chicken offsets the normal market forces of a highly desirable commodity.  Love the dividends though.  I am not in the game nearly enough to playing the ins and outs of the day traders. 

This is based on the lack of demand from China and the over production of Russia & Saudi.

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Lowered my buy order from $22 to $20.  That didn't take long. Another 100 shares.  I'm done buying unless it gets drastically lower.  Bankruptcy is my only risk at this point.  I'll let this ride a long time.

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2 minutes ago, dwp10mm said:

Lowered my buy order from $22 to $20.  That didn't take long. Another 100 shares.  I'm done buying unless it gets drastically lower.  Bankruptcy is my only risk at this point.  I'll let this ride a long time.

 

I'm half tempted to pick up some more.  But to be honest this is my first stock purchase (outside of 401k & Roth).  So I'm treading lightly.

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