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42 minutes ago, chipmaster said:

 

During the pandemic the rich all did okay, most were able to work from home, continue their income stream and the stock market was pretty good for those that were paying attention and played it right.

 

Most of the out of work are hourly and also likely had few assets for stock, and lived paycheck to paycheck.   Those picketing on both extremes for the most part are / were the hardest hit and likely don't get much from stock.

 

Funny how those in power manipulate the uninformed and get richer.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but the stock market (S&P 500) is actually down 6% ytd.  Without the few big cap tech winners it's down almost 9%.

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Tomorrow, before U.S. markets open "The Lancet" is due to publish full Phase 1 trial results of AstraZeneca's vaccine.  As many of you probably know, its Phase 3 trial is already underway.  I hope this bit of information proves useful.

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1 hour ago, Wolf 8 said:

Tomorrow, before U.S. markets open "The Lancet" is due to publish full Phase 1 trial results of AstraZeneca's vaccine.  As many of you probably know, its Phase 3 trial is already underway.  I hope this bit of information proves useful.

 

Exciting indeed, we are rounding the corner, who is going to pull ahead and who will fall by the wayside, and will a new cocktail come out soon to surprise everyone?

 

 

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2 hours ago, chipmaster said:

 

Exciting indeed, we are rounding the corner, who is going to pull ahead and who will fall by the wayside, and will a new cocktail come out soon to surprise everyone?

 

 

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That cocktail may very well be the one Regeneron is jointly developing with NIAID and NIH.  Hoped to serve as both a treatment and a preventative it entered phase 3 trials a couple of weeks ago.  Currently being administered to both hospitalized  and non-hospitalized patients plus non-infected who had been in contact with them.  Results are expected as soon as next month.  REGN just received $500MM from DARPA to ramp up production.  A successful therapeutic could be important in getting cruising restarted.

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5 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

Not the rich only. Many did great. 

Ii's certainly not as bright as you seem to imply.  This from CNN Business..
 
"There's now a total of 3.7 million unemployed Americans whose previous jobs are gone for good. And millions more are at risk."
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1 hour ago, yogimax said:
Ii's certainly not as bright as you seem to imply.  This from CNN Business..
 
"There's now a total of 3.7 million unemployed Americans whose previous jobs are gone for good. And millions more are at risk."

 

Reminds me of the number of folks who should be dead about now.  1% more or less

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13 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Seem to recall that was a projection in March if we didnt flatten curve

 

In March, when I was really following Italy/Spain/South Korea, South Korea estimated their initial mortality rate at 0.6%.

They also mentioned if they didn't contact trace, they would estimate probably around double (or 1% rounded)

But this is only (at that time) for approx 50% of population who would get infected (they were getting around 50% positive vs negative cases)

 

50% of USA = 180,000,000

1% of those = 1,800,000

0.6% = approx 1,000,000

 

Edit:

- we are not even 5 months in

- flu season begins in 2 months... weaker immune system for hundreds of thousands

 

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30 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Seem to recall that was a projection in March if we didnt flatten curve


And we did flatten the curve in the US. Then we took our foot off the virus’ neck and let it come roaring back rather than keep up the lockdown and kill it. 

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21 minutes ago, Hoopster95 said:

 

In March, when I was really following Italy/Spain/South Korea, South Korea estimated their initial mortality rate at 0.6%.

They also mentioned if they didn't contact trace, they would estimate probably around double (or 1% rounded)

But this is only (at that time) for approx 50% of population who would get infected (they were getting around 50% positive vs negative cases)

 

50% of USA = 180,000,000

1% of those = 1,800,000

0.6% = approx 1,000,000

 

Edit:

- we are not even 5 months in

- flu season begins in 2 months... weaker immune system for hundreds of thousands

 

 

When will 2020 flu shot come out

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41 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Seem to recall that was a projection in March if we didnt flatten curve

 

Seem to recall a statement in March that there were only 40 coronavirus deaths because the US had "a very strong border policy."

 

Not sure what happened there... nor what your point is.

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12 hours ago, zekekelso said:


And we did flatten the curve in the US. Then we took our foot off the virus’ neck and let it come roaring back rather than keep up the lockdown and kill it. 

 

We really did what what Derek Chauvin didn't and created a similar mess

 

Agree with the other poster when we combine that with fall/winter, school going back in session, cold weather, and flu, sounds like a perfect storm.   Then you got election in November where most certainly those passionate about masks and those who are proud in their liberty and freedom mingle at the ballot boxes will indeed make for a bigger storm.

 

 

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15 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

When will 2020 flu shot come out

DH works for a local hospital here in Indy and he was told the flu shot would be available to its employees in late September this year. Our local CVS only says "flu shot coming".

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From the RCCL SEC filing yesterday. Did I miss the thread about the cancellation extension from 9/15 to 9/30?

 

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On July 16, 2020, the Company posted the following notice on its press center website (https://presscenter.rclcorporate.com/😞

 

The health and safety of our guests, crew and the communities we visit is our top priority. As we work with the CDC and others toward this shared goal, Royal Caribbean Group will be extending the suspension of sailings to include those departing on or before September 30, 2020.

 

We will be reaching out to our guests and travel partners tomorrow to share further details and address any questions or concerns they may have.”[\quote]

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7 minutes ago, Dennis#1 said:

We now know that RCL will pay no cash dividends until sometime on/after 1st Quarter of 2022.

It will be after, if at all.  Many of the loan agreements have covenants that restrict the payment of dividends.  Actually. dividends should be the least of shareholder worries.  The company's very existence is at stake.

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