Where will all the ships go?

[OceanPatter]

Thank you, snoozecrooze ... awesome info and video.

[brisalta]

Grand Princess is at Pier 27 in San Francisco provisioning. It will head back out to sea in a day or two.

https://www.princess.com/news/notices_and_advisories/notices/grand-princess-updates.html

April 7, 2020 2:00PM PT

Grand Princess Update

Today, Grand Princess was authorized by local authorities to dock temporarily at the Port of San Francisco to take on necessary provisions and will be departing today or tomorrow. Plans for where she will be positioned during the pause of Princess Cruises global fleet are being finalized.

The health and safety of our crew remains a top priority. Prior to the crew quarantine, testing was done on any crew member who showed symptoms of COVID-19. Crew with symptoms were medically disembarked, or isolated on board until they met the CDC definition for recovery. All crew were quarantined for 14 days to monitor symptoms and to reduce the possibility of transmission if they became symptomatic. This quarantine plan was developed and implemented under the guidelines of the CDC’s Vessel Sanitation Program. Since the quarantine period ended Saturday, we have one crew member still in isolation for COVID-19. They will remain in isolation until April 9 when they are anticipated to meet the CDC definition of recovery. Currently there are 614 crewmembers on board.

Princess Cruises did work with numerous governments on the repatriation of guests and crew members prior to the quarantine including the Philippines. The government of the Philippines repatriated 438 crew members and six guests on a chartered flight prior to the crew quarantine, some crew members remained as they had symptoms and were not fit to travel.

Currently, Princess Cruises is working on a crew repatriation plan across the fleet that is still being finalized. In the interim, all crew fleetwide will remain onboard in the care of Princess until which time a plan of repatriation can be successfully executed.

 

[MissP22]

9 hours ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Queensland Australia has ordered all cruise ships to leave there waters by 23:59 LT 8th April 2020.

Sea Princess, Sun Princess & Pacific Explorer [ex Dawn Princess] are in the Coral Sea north bound together heading for Manilla.  The last Pacific Dawn [ex Regal Princess] will follow the others north to Manilla after completing bunkering at Brisbane.

Ruby Princess will remain at Port Kembla NSW for some time.

Golden Princess is in Australian Bight bound for Jakarta.

Since no one is allowed to disembark, I can't see why they have to leave their waters.

 

[beg3yrs]

4 hours ago, MissP22 said:

Since no one is allowed to disembark, I can't see why they have to leave their waters.

 

It may be that if someone on board becomes critically ill, the nearest land would be Australia and would need assistance from shoreside and the Australian government doesn't want that risk. Also, those ships at anchor offshore need to come in at times for provisions, fuel, etc. which is another risk. I.e., they're making it someone else's problem.

[npcl]

1 hour ago, beg3yrs said:

It may be that if someone on board becomes critically ill, the nearest land would be Australia and would need assistance from shoreside and the Australian government doesn't want that risk. Also, those ships at anchor offshore need to come in at times for provisions, fuel, etc. which is another risk. I.e., they're making it someone else's problem.

If the ships are not flagged in Australia why should it be Australia's problem?

[bluesea321]

1 hour ago, beg3yrs said:

It may be that if someone on board becomes critically ill, the nearest land would be Australia and would need assistance from shoreside and the Australian government doesn't want that risk. Also, those ships at anchor offshore need to come in at times for provisions, fuel, etc. which is another risk. I.e., they're making it someone else's problem.

 

1 minute ago, npcl said:

If the ships are not flagged in Australia why should it be Australia's problem?

 

The large number of cruise ships docked or at anchor around South Florida are not flagged in the US but somehow we made it "our problem".

[MissP22]

2 hours ago, bluesea321 said:

 

 

The large number of cruise ships docked or at anchor around South Florida are not flagged in the US but somehow we made it "our problem".

Amen. 

[beg3yrs]

4 hours ago, npcl said:

If the ships are not flagged in Australia why should it be Australia's problem?

 

3 hours ago, bluesea321 said:

 

 

The large number of cruise ships docked or at anchor around South Florida are not flagged in the US but somehow we made it "our problem".

 

It's a humanitarian thing. It's what caring, empathetic people do. It's what you would want if it happened to you. I was only suggesting that having the ships leave and go elsewhere, when problems arise, the ship is somewhere else.

[npcl]

47 minutes ago, beg3yrs said:

 

 

It's a humanitarian thing. It's what caring, empathetic people do. It's what you would want if it happened to you. I was only suggesting that having the ships leave and go elsewhere, when problems arise, the ship is somewhere else.

It the humanitarian thing when something unexpected arises.   At some point it turns into abuse by the cruise lines because they know the US and Australia, as well as a few other countries, will help in the end.  

 

At this stage the cruise lines should be making concrete arrangements, at their expense, for managing the issues with their ships and crews. Not just leaving them off shore around the US and Australia and counting on help when the sure to happen health crisis occurs. I believe that this is why the Coast Guard, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, as well as Australia have done what they have done recently.

 

CCL is incorporated in both Panama and England. Panama has a very good medical capability.  Has been a prime location for medical tourism around south and central america.  The ships are flagged in Bahama's.  Help set up and fund a medical capability for the crews.  After all they have ship doctors, they have nurses.  They have the capabilities and capacities of a small city. Yet they sit off shore and count on the US and Australia to meet their needs.

 

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by npcl

[SeaDog-46]

Fred Olsen Lines fleet of 4 cruise ships are now been anchored together NE of Edinburgh in the Firth of Forth.

[SeaDog-46]

At Tilbury London UK - the following cruise ships are laid up -

Spirit of Discovery,  Saga Sapphire, [Saga].   Astoria the oldest cruise ship,  Magellan  [CMV] ,  Viking Star [Viking Ocean].   Columbus [CMV] due in 14th April.

Edited April 12, 2020 by SeaDog-46

[brisalta]

19 minutes ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Astoria the oldest cruise ship,

 

Please explain the above.

 

Edited April 12, 2020 by brisalta

[bluesea321]

1 hour ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Astoria the oldest cruise ship

 

1 hour ago, brisalta said:

Please explain the above.

 

OK

1) Open your browser

2) Type oldest cruise ship in service

3) Click enter

4) Voila   🙂 🙄 😴 

 

  

 

[SeaDog-46]

Thanks bluesea321 - thought everybody knew this. 

 

Built as mv Stockholm in Sweden - sailed in 1948.

Famous for collision with Italian liner Andrea Doria in fog off Nantucket 25th July in 1950's.

Great story. 

[brisalta]

29 minutes ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Thanks bluesea321 - thought everybody knew this. 

 

Built as mv Stockholm in Sweden - sailed in 1948.

Famous for collision with Italian liner Andrea Doria in fog off Nantucket 25th July in 1950's.

Great story. 

 

Ah of Andrea Doria fame!  I knew of the MV Stocklholm

Edited April 12, 2020 by brisalta

[snoozecrooze]

Another round-up of the ships' whereabouts, but this time with more of them moving around than before:

 

And here's a now-temporarily-forbidden snack to feast on -- the Love Boat horn! If you missed this from Captain Laakkonen from three weeks ago, here's the Sky's rendezvous with the Caribbean:

 

[snoozecrooze]

A further update for what's coming soon about crew repatriation:

• REGAL: Europe
• CROWN & ISLAND: Asia & Africa
• CARIBBEAN: Caribbean & South America

Taking a look at Port Everglades' ship schedule for the upcoming week, the mentioned ships are scheduled to come into port, get ready, and depart in the next few days. We shall wait and see if these ships will hang out near their respective mentioned "destination" areas by the time they are finished with repatriation (probably not for Caribbean Princess) or if they will sail back to the Caribbean region. 

 

Source: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22808-eight-cruise-ships-being-prepped-to-bring-crew-home.html