Stateroom_Sailor Posted April 16, 2020 #451 Share Posted April 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, MakingUpForLostTime said: There will be no refund. RCI has gutted its bank account, CEO, staff and its loyal customers. What future is there? It’s dead. There's certainly more going on here than a delay due to volume, the refunds would already be trickling out. Most of us have had cruises cancel due to charters, it is pretty instantaneous. If March refunds were going to take up to 90 days to process, 1/3 of you would already have credits by now, averaging about 8.3% per week. I have a $550 open booking with Azamara, probably worthless at this point. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
helen haywood Posted April 16, 2020 #452 Share Posted April 16, 2020 21 hours ago, Jim_Iain said: BTW - I also filed a dispute with Chase Sapphire for a Cancelled cruise with a Cash refund and 2 upgrades that I won. I mostly filed because I didn't want to pay an additional $8,000 which was coming due shortly. Chase issued a credit by the next morning. I believe the credit is a temporary credit while they investigate. Usually a merchant have 45 days to respond to a charge back if they choose to dispute. Jim, are you saying you cancelled a cruise before final payment and the deposit is what you disputed? When was the deposit made? Link to post Share on other sites
lauderdale cruiser Posted April 16, 2020 #453 Share Posted April 16, 2020 My wife and I were booked on the Edge for 3/15-22. We saw the writing on the wall and cancelled 6 days before sailing, on 3/9. Then two days later Celebrity cancelled the cruise, issuing all of those passengers 125% credit as opposed to 100%. I've called, spoken to "supervisor", no luck. This is absurd. It wouldn't be so bad if the same cruise next year was the same price, but of course they've raised their prices. We have been loyal Celebrity guests for many years. They're going to lose us. Suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Iain Posted April 16, 2020 #454 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, helen haywood said: Jim, are you saying you cancelled a cruise before final payment and the deposit is what you disputed? When was the deposit made? Sorry for the confusion. Celebrity Cancelled my cruise the night before it was suppose to happen. Actually it was a B2B2B so I had 3 cruises in a row and our 4/30 cruise to Alaska was cancelled a couple weeks later. On the first 2 cruises I disputed the Move-Up bid that was awarded and charged to my credit card 3 days before my cruises. For the Alaska Cruise I had 2 rooms booked and decided to accept the 100% cash back instead of the FCC. Since this was only booked recently and within the 60 day credit card limit I also disputed these charges. Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Iain Posted April 16, 2020 #455 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, lauderdale cruiser said: My wife and I were booked on the Edge for 3/15-22. We saw the writing on the wall and cancelled 6 days before sailing, on 3/9. Then two days later Celebrity cancelled the cruise, issuing all of those passengers 125% credit as opposed to 100%. I've called, spoken to "supervisor", no luck. This is absurd. It wouldn't be so bad if the same cruise next year was the same price, but of course they've raised their prices. We have been loyal Celebrity guests for many years. They're going to lose us. Suggestions? I understand your disappointment and sympathize with you. You made the decision to cancel and accepted the terms of the cancellation when you made it so can understand why Celebrity is sticking to the terms you selected. The difference is in your case you will get a cash refund while those that were cancelled had a choice of either the 100% cash refund (back to your credit card) or a 125% FCC. None of us know what will happen but you may be in a much better position if RCL were to file bankruptcy and your 125% FCC were to become worthless. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Roddo Posted April 16, 2020 #456 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I received an email from Celebrity yesterday saying that the refund of my full cruise cost (that they requested on 19th March) will be with my travel agent by the end of this week or the beginning of next. I will contact my travel agent next week to see if this is the case. Link to post Share on other sites
coaster Posted April 16, 2020 #457 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) I don't see how the delayed refund strategy is going to be sustainable much longer. More folks will open up credit card disputes. Card companies can revoke merchant accounts to those businesses with high chargeback rates. Going to get to the point where you have to use cash to book a cruise. I don't think many would be comfortable with that. Edited April 16, 2020 by coaster Link to post Share on other sites
helen haywood Posted April 16, 2020 #458 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I'm still on the fence between waiting for the refunds for a March 29th and an April 5th cruise that were cancelled by X. I requested a refund instead of an FCC on March 14th and 16th respectively. Haven't received any notification from X but I'm in the wait 30-60-90 days/business days period. I've also paid in full for a June 6th cruise that I expect will also get cancelled. Perhaps I'll call Capital One and see. Link to post Share on other sites
Life Buoy Posted April 16, 2020 #459 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Note to Celebrity: In a crisis times you build goodwill and not the opposite. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lauderdale cruiser Posted April 16, 2020 #460 Share Posted April 16, 2020 In reply to Jim_Lain, I did NOT get the option of a refund, just a 100% FFC. I would have gladly taken the option of a refund instead of having to use the FFC by 12/31/21. Link to post Share on other sites
BP99 Posted April 16, 2020 #461 Share Posted April 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, Roddo said: I received an email from Celebrity yesterday saying that the refund of my full cruise cost (that they requested on 19th March) will be with my travel agent by the end of this week or the beginning of next. I will contact my travel agent next week to see if this is the case. Huh? Don't they refund your credit card? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hcat Posted April 16, 2020 #462 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, MartiniBarhooked said: When you dispute a charge the Card Company does immediatly credit your account. But unless the dispute is settled it will automatically be charged again. We filed 2 disputes each approx 30 days after sep cruise cancellations. The credit balances were then deducted from the card and we were sent notices that checks for the credit balances were mailed to us . Hope so! Cred card co gave us a dispute no each time, and asked us to mail or fax a few documents which we did, BUT within a day or two of calling our money was back on the card. Yet it seems the disputes were still pending, but then were marked resolved. I suspect the card notified the cruise line right away somehow and this pushed out our refunds. Can't be 2 coincidences, right? Edited April 16, 2020 by hcat Link to post Share on other sites
Roddo Posted April 16, 2020 #463 Share Posted April 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, BP99 said: Huh? Don't they refund your credit card? I booked through a travel agent (not directly with Celebrity) so the refund comes through them Link to post Share on other sites
mafig Posted April 16, 2020 #464 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Roddo said: I booked through a travel agent (not directly with Celebrity) so the refund comes through them Makes no difference. Refund should come to YOU. Link to post Share on other sites
Wine-O Posted April 16, 2020 #465 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Roddo said: I booked through a travel agent (not directly with Celebrity) so the refund comes through them They may run it differently in the UK. I give my TA my credit card, and she files it with Celebrity for final payment. Any refunds come back directly to my credit card. 🍷 Edited April 16, 2020 by Wine-O Link to post Share on other sites
mafig Posted April 16, 2020 #466 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Wine-O said: They may run it differently in the UK OK, didnot notice the London. Link to post Share on other sites
mnocket Posted April 16, 2020 #467 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Roddo said: I received an email from Celebrity yesterday saying that the refund of my full cruise cost (that they requested on 19th March) will be with my travel agent by the end of this week or the beginning of next. I will contact my travel agent next week to see if this is the case. Wow, I never considered this wrinkle. So if your TA should go out of business because no one is traveling and the next 12 months look bleak, they may pocket your refund and file for bankruptcy without returning it to you? I hadn't consider that additional risk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tartantiara Posted April 16, 2020 #468 Share Posted April 16, 2020 How long should it take for funds to go back into your CC ? I received notification about one refund of an excursion 14 days ago and it still has not appeared. I have since had notification about my 100% refund and 2 more excursions but I will hold my breath on them coming . Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_Iain Posted April 16, 2020 #469 Share Posted April 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Roddo said: I booked through a travel agent (not directly with Celebrity) so the refund comes through them This may again be a difference of a NON-North American booking. Usually in the U.S. all payment made through a TA are directly processed by Celebrity and when a credit is issued the issue back to the original form of payment. This may be different with some Big agency's that handle your booking as a group booking. My Travel agent is advised of my Credits and FCC's. Link to post Share on other sites
CHEZMARYLOU Posted April 16, 2020 #470 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Roddo said: I received an email from Celebrity yesterday saying that the refund of my full cruise cost (that they requested on 19th March) will be with my travel agent by the end of this week or the beginning of next. I will contact my travel agent next week to see if this is the case. Did Celebrity respond to an email that you sent them, or did they just email you with the information? I cancelled a December cruise on which I had paid a substantial amount on March 16. I emailed Celebrity on April 9 and have not received a response. I did talk to a Celebrity agent on April 14 and he could see that my refunds were set up and should go out in 10 business days. I made their life difficult by using various credit cards and monthly payments. Link to post Share on other sites
Roddo Posted April 16, 2020 #471 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, CHEZMARYLOU said: Did Celebrity respond to an email that you sent them, or did they just email you with the information? I cancelled a December cruise on which I had paid a substantial amount on March 16. I emailed Celebrity on April 9 and have not received a response. I did talk to a Celebrity agent on April 14 and he could see that my refunds were set up and should go out in 10 business days. I made their life difficult by using various credit cards and monthly payments. They responded to an enquiry I sent the previous day Link to post Share on other sites
CHEZMARYLOU Posted April 16, 2020 #472 Share Posted April 16, 2020 That was quick. Possibly because it came from a UK office. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GottaKnowWhen Posted April 16, 2020 #473 Share Posted April 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, mnocket said: Wow, I never considered this wrinkle. So if your TA should go out of business because no one is traveling and the next 12 months look bleak, they may pocket your refund and file for bankruptcy without returning it to you? I hadn't consider that additional risk. I am not in the UK, but I have noticed a few comments from Over There. Good news, bad news in the different approach they have to travel booking, travel agents, etc. Bad news - if you book a cruise, air passage, whatever then you will pay the price you booked for. If the price later drops, no matter, you get the price you booked. You can cancel, but you lose a hefty deposit. Good news - if your travel agency goes bankrupt, then the government steps in and makes you whole. Correct? Link to post Share on other sites
treehugr Posted April 16, 2020 #474 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Got a standard "we're currently reviewing your claim" letter from BofA today. When we filed the claim we were told we would also receive questions to fill out, along with a request to provide additional documents. This letter made no such mention of additional questions, nor a request for additional documents needed. Link to post Share on other sites
mnocket Posted April 16, 2020 #475 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, GottaKnowWhen said: I am not in the UK, but I have noticed a few comments from Over There. Good news, bad news in the different approach they have to travel booking, travel agents, etc. Bad news - if you book a cruise, air passage, whatever then you will pay the price you booked for. If the price later drops, no matter, you get the price you booked. You can cancel, but you lose a hefty deposit. Good news - if your travel agency goes bankrupt, then the government steps in and makes you whole. Correct? That's how I understand it. I was actually thinking about US customers who use a TA. Perhaps this doesn't apply to them? Do refunds for US customers go through their TA or are they sent directly? Link to post Share on other sites
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