Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1451 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Vict0riann said: Waffling... It's just Government.......making sausage. It will happen we still need the final plan from CCL Link to post Share on other sites
DaveRRT Posted March 31, 2020 #1452 Share Posted March 31, 2020 need to know the rules to make a plan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1453 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Commissioner Bogen just doesn't get it - the majority of those ships have been at anchor for some time 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1454 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, DaveRRT said: need to know the rules to make a plan Good point and he is getting the rules right now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
css5 Posted March 31, 2020 #1455 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said: Commissioner Bogen just doesn't get it - the majority of those ships have been at anchor for some time I know...they even said those ships were just rotating in and out for provisions. No passengers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cat shepard Posted March 31, 2020 #1456 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Anyone know when the Rotterdam took over the lead position? I guess I am a bit behind in posts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1457 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A mayor and a vice-mayor for a county; is that common? Link to post Share on other sites
Cruise Suzy Posted March 31, 2020 #1458 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said: A mayor and a vice-mayor for a county; is that common? Yes, in Florida it is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1459 Share Posted March 31, 2020 So the bottom line; Zaandam and Rotterdam are scheduled off FLL on Thursday and they're waiting for a vote until the County Attorney has drafted a plan/contract that they can sign off on along with "several other entities that comprise the unified command" 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1460 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: So the bottom line; Zaandam and Rotterdam are scheduled off FLL on Thursday and they're waiting for a vote until the County Attorney has drafted a plan/contract that they can sign off on along with "several other entities that comprise the unified command" And they want a unanimous vote? Sounds like they are going to wait for Thursday morning to vote. Edited March 31, 2020 by Vict0riann Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1461 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Vict0riann said: And they want a unanimous vote? Usually, stuff like that requires a majority vote Link to post Share on other sites
StLouisCruisers Posted March 31, 2020 #1462 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Leave it until the last second, then expect chartered planes to be ready Thursday afternoon. Right... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1463 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I give the Commissioners a ton of credit. I do not know of any other port in the world who lined up to help. While Florida has been bashed all over the place on this thread you may want to ask yourself has the port closest to me offered to help? 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1464 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Sounds like the mayor has a tiny bit of a Jamaican accent Link to post Share on other sites
ajstahle Posted March 31, 2020 #1465 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion. Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in? Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1466 Share Posted March 31, 2020 And we're done; the ball is in the hands of the Broward County Attorney and his staff to come up with the guidelines 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1467 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, ajstahle said: The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion. Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in? Nope. Link to post Share on other sites
Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1468 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ajstahle said: The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion. Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in? Not yet, more work to do 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DFD1 Posted March 31, 2020 #1469 Share Posted March 31, 2020 They did not, but they will. They just want the cover of an attorney prepared contract/plan to which the parties agree. Link to post Share on other sites
DFD1 Posted March 31, 2020 #1470 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Do not lose hope. The meeting could have gone a lot worse. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DaveSJ711 Posted March 31, 2020 #1471 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, DFD1 said: They did not, but they will. They just want the cover of an attorney prepared contract/plan to which the parties agree. The can has indeed been kicked to an attorney. As a lawyer myself, I've seen this scenario play out dozens and dozens of times. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
bluesea321 Posted March 31, 2020 #1472 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I listened to essentially all of the Broward County meeting and in summary they deferred action on the HAL ships until Thursday morning. The so called Unified Command will have to "agree" on what's next. The ships may be offshore FLL on Thursday but it seems unlikely that they will disembark pax/crew then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1473 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bluesea321 said: I listened to essentially all of the Broward County meeting and in summary they deferred action on the HAL ships until Thursday morning. The so called Unified Command will have to "agree" on what's next. The ships may be offshore FLL on Thursday but it seems unlikely that they will disembark pax/crew then. And then other countries will have to have time to organize charter flights to take their countrymen home. Link to post Share on other sites
DFD1 Posted March 31, 2020 #1474 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I think it is evident from the tone of the meeting that the commission wants to make this happen. However, they have some time and they want to use that time to create a situation that takes away most, if not all, of the political risk. The way to do that is turn it over to the attorney. Nothing new about this.....after all, they are politicians. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
capriccio Posted March 31, 2020 #1475 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) The Sun-Sentinel just posted their meeting write-up online and have lifted the paywall. Edited March 31, 2020 by capriccio Link to post Share on other sites
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