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14 hours ago, Stumblefoot said:

Your missing the fact that the US Dollar is at its highest point since the new millennium and the dot com implosion.  Gold was setting new lows back then too.  Strong dollar is not good for gold.

Great points along with rising interest rates. Gold has no real yield. In the way back machine you might get 1/2% lending it to short sellers. Market has changed since gold was an inflation hedge. People now have other options to loose money hedging inflation.🤣 Back to stumbles point, dollar is not only a safe haven, but quite the attractive yield, especially on the short end, 1 year over 4% crikey.

Gold, 10 year chat, and my trading arc attached for your pleasure. 

 

If, (and it's a big if these days) the GOLD double top formation breakout plays out it puts it below $1400. As you know I've been watching this one closely.

 

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3 hours ago, Desperate to Sail said:

I respectfully will offer a differing opinion. By launching now, A&K avoided the 2+ years of massive debt accumulation while the cruise industry was shut down. They're starting with a clean slate.

 

Appreciate these excellent points-of-view, comments and follow-ups from Mr Luxury and Desperate to Sail.  WOW!!  Interesting and challenging question as to whether the Silversea founder has been . . . smart or dumb . . .  in teaming up with A&K to buy and re-start the former Crystal ships.  Clearly, it is a big roll of the financial dice!!  Who wins, if and when?  I could argue both side of this major question.  Personally, I am glad not to be a risk-taker in this field of efforts.  Too hard to guess or predict for me.    

 

From the Wall Street Journal late this afternoon, below are the charts for the three major cruise lines during this past week.  Was it a rocky, negative week?  Yes, sadly.  Not just for the cruise stocks, but for and affecting the overall stock market.  

 

How bad has it been for the financial markets?  From the Washington Post, they had this headline as the top story on their website this afternoon: Stock market continues long tumble, hitting lows not seen for a year" with this sub-headline: "The Federal Reserve’s fight against inflation promises to slow the economy, and Wall Street is roiled.

 

Here are a few of their story highlights: “Stock markets sank to their lowest levels since 2020 on Friday, continuing a bad slump that began in August as investors try to grapple with economic head winds in the United States and around the world that are only likely to worsen.  Major stock indexes closed out the week with losses, capping the fifth decline in the past six weeks.”

 

Full story at:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/23/stock-markets-fed-rate-hike/

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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From the Wall Street Journal, below are the charts for the three major cruise companies during the past five trading days.  Is downward and rocky a reasonable summary?:

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Here is how RCL has trended since the first of this 2022 calendar year.:

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3 hours ago, Desperate to Sail said:

 

I respectfully will offer a differing opinion. By launching now, A&K avoided the 2+ years of massive debt accumulation while the cruise industry was shut down. They're starting with a clean slate.

That I get and they bought those old ships cheaply.

I'm not confident that trying to grow the business in this climate which is going to get much worse will work out well but we can all hope that they succeed.  

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Add in the geopolitical issues, we are in very, very unsettled times.

 

Putin is doing the same type of stuff that Hitler did in the '40's.  Only, now, his "toys" are worse than Hitler's were.    History repeats itself over and over and over.  It's doing it again.  In my opinion.  Homo sapiens are, without a doubt, an intelligent species.  But, when it comes to learning from History, we are the dumbest of the Earth's species.  A Zoology professor of mine said:  "The last beings on a dying planet will be an insect, preening its wings, in the glow of a dying Sun."  Hope I don't live to see that era, but, I truly do believe that Professor Bradshaw will be proven correct.  Or close to it.  

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16 hours ago, Mr Luxury said:

That I get and they bought those old ships cheaply.  I'm not confident that trying to grow the business in this climate which is going to get much worse will work out well but we can all hope that they succeed.  

 

Great above comments, insights and follow-up by Mr. Luxury.  That overall "economic climate" is the huge "mystery meat" question hanging over the world.  A recession is happening right now.  How long and deep will it be?  Higher interest rates, skyrocketing inflation, world uncertainty, etc., all add up and will impact consumer spending and the recovery timing.  

 

From the CNBC financial cable news website yesterday afternoon, they had this headline: Debt-loaded cruise lines’ shares fall as Fed hikes rate and recession fears grow with these highlights: “Shares of cruise companies have fallen after the Fed’s latest rate hike Wednesday.  Norwegian, Carnival and Royal Caribbean have massive debt loads that grew during the pandemic.  'There’s a lot of one step forward, one step back going on,' Truist analyst Patrick Scholes said. He also noted the debt cruise companies racked up while their ships were anchored during the pandemic.  As of Sept. 1, Truist estimates that Carnival holds $35 billion in debt, Royal Caribbean has $25 billion and Norwegian owes $14 billion. Respectively, the companies’ values in the stock market are about $11.01 billion, $11.18 billion and $5.61 billion.

 

WOW!!  That's lots of debt.  Even I can add it up and see the challenging ratio of cruise company debt versus their current market value.  

 

Here was another key quote from this media coverage: “The reason the stocks went down a bunch on Wednesday was because you just had this fear that the companies are going to have to pay more for their debt,” Deutsche Bank analyst Chris Woronka said.

 

Full story at:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/cruise-line-stocks-fall-fed-rate-hike-recession-worries.html

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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In these wild and crazy economic times, I noticed from the Wall Street Journal this morning, their lead headline: British Pound Hits Record Low Against Dollar.

 

Here are a few of their story highlights:The British pound hit its lowest-ever level against the U.S. dollar Monday, dropping heavily after the U.K. government announced a series of tax cuts on Friday, before later paring losses.  The currency touched $1.0349 during Asian trading hours Monday, breaking through its previous record low in 1985. The currency sold off dramatically after U.K. Chancellor of the Exchequer Kwasi Kwarteng unveiled a massive tax-cutting package Friday, which will be paired with subsidies for households and businesses.  The U.K. government is planning to issue large amounts of bonds to help fund its spending.

 

How does this affect the cruise lines?  Many such as Silversea, get a good percentage of their customers from the UK.  Will this shrinking value of the Pound impact bookings and international travel decisions/numbers?

 

Full story at:

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-news-today-09-26-2022/card/british-pound-hits-record-low-against-dollar-0pg0WCi1CfllbNlnn9ra

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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Today, the stock market continued downward overall and for the three cruise ship stocks.  Royal Caribbean was down to $44.12 today, a negative 0.68% drop.  

 

From this web financial website Saturday morning, they had this headline: Better Buy: Carnival Cruise vs. Royal Caribbean Stock with these summary highlights: “Carnival's size and liquidity make it a safe bet for long-term investors. Royal Caribbean may have the stronger financial position, and its focus on the high-end market could pay off with sales rebounding.”

 

Here is more from their closer look at RCL: "Royal Caribbean has been less dilutive and has less debt.  While Royal Caribbean still has a major issue with debt on the heels of pandemic-related challenges, it's taken a much lighter approach than Carnival to selling new shares in order to raise funds  Dilution has been a contributing factor in Carnival posting the worse performance of the two, and I think it remains a key risk factor for investors going forward.  Royal Caribbean has been selling convertible notes and refinancing debt at relatively high interest rates recently, and some of these notes will likely be converted into stock.  Royal Caribbean has been increasing revenue per customer and recently posted its best-ever results along those lines. The company's high-end Celebrity and Silversea lines in particular look capable of driving high-margin sales as demand continues to improve."

 

Full story at:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/09/24/better-buy-carnival-cruise-vs-royal-caribbean-stoc/

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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Yesterday was one of the worst for the Royal Caribbean stock values and the other lines.  Why?  At 10 am this morning, Carnival's top executive will meet with Wall Street analysts and answer their question after the release of their quarterly data.  

 

Is the market anticipating more bad news for the cruise industry on top of the overall negative U.S. and World economic news/worries?  Carnival was down nearly 7% yesterday.  Norwegian dropped 5.3% yesterday.   

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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From the Wall Street Journal yesterday late, here was the chart showing the major drop, nearly a 8% slide, for Royal Caribbean.:

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32 minutes ago, RetiredandTravel said:

 

YES!!  Sadly, it has been a bad morning for Carnival and the other cruise stocks.  See below.  Appreciate this follow-up and news connection from our SW Ohio neighbor.  

 

Not only was Carnival down nearly 20%, but Royal Caribbean dropped 11% and Norwegian was falling 14%.  Cannot remember any such drops by that amount recently.  

 

From this morning, one summary before the 10 am financial analysts conference call, this trade publication had this headline: Carnival Corporation Reports 2022 Q3 Earnings; EBITDA Turns Positive with these highlights: “U.S. GAAP net loss of $770 million and adjusted net loss of $688 million for the third quarter of 2022.  Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2022 was over $300 million, turning positive for the first time since the resumption of guest cruise operations.  Revenue increased by nearly 80% in the third quarter of 2022 compared to second quarter 2022.  Occupancy in the third quarter of 2022 increased 15 percentage points from the prior quarter.  Since the announcement of the company's relaxed protocols in mid-August, aligning the company towards land-based vacation alternatives, booking volumes for all future sailings are considerably higher than strong 2019 levels.  Third quarter 2022 ended with $7.4 billion of liquidity, including cash and borrowings available under the company's revolving credit facility.”

 

Is this good or bad?  Clearly, this am, those on the stock market were not impressed, nor confident, especially during these challenging economic/inflation/recession times.  

 

At 10 am, I listened to the full hour-long briefing, including many key questions.  The short summary was that the new Carnival CEO Josh Weinstein was spinning a “positive trajectory.”  They reported higher on-board ship spending, but mentioned a doubling in fuel prices and higher advertising and other costs.  Yes, their fleet composition is better with nine new, more efficient ships in their adjusted fleet.  But things are still closed in China.   Carnival is seek more “drive to” cruise options and these executives cited their “industry-leading scale."  There were many questions about Carnival being so heavily connect to its Europe cruise brands and their sailings in that challenged location.  More later from the Q&A session and as to how it affects this industry.  

 

Full story at:

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/28390-carnival-corporation-reports-2022-q3-earnings-ebitda-turns-positive.html

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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From the Wall Street Journal, here is their stock price chart for Carnival and how it performed this am and earlier in the week.  Look good??:

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41 minutes ago, RetiredandTravel said:

I'll defer to the SB faithful but I find it somewhat odd that they haven't released the full 2024 schedule. Regent & SS 2024 schedules have been out since July.

 

Appreciate this great point and follow-up from R&T.  Based on listening this morning to the stock analysts' discussions with the top Carnival executives, the cruise company folks are delaying in order to figure out their future plans, offerings and strategies.  

 

Much was noted about offering more "closer-in" and "drive-to" cruise offerings.  Carnival is also considering their Europe brands and offerings versus what they market to and from, around, North American, the Caribbean, etc.  Carnival is probably waiting in order to know much more as to where the market-demand and economic factors affect consumer decisions and choices.  Right or wrong?

 

From the Wall Street Journal's sister publication of Barron's late this morning, they had this headline: Carnival Stock Falls to Lowest Since 1992 on Wider-Than-Expected Loss with these highlights:Carnival fell sharply Friday after the cruise operator reported a quarterly loss that widely missed analysts’ estimates.  Carnival posted a loss of 65 cents a share during its third fiscal quarter. Analysts surveyed by FactSet forecast a loss of 9 cents. Revenue generated from passenger tickets and onboard spending was $4.3 billion for the quarter ended in August, lower than the $4.9 billion Wall Street had expected.

 

WOW!!??  The headline of Carnival having the lowest stock price since 1992 really catches one's immediate attention.  

 

Glad so many have stopped, posted, shared info, asked questions etc., on this thread.  Things are now over 80,000 views.  Keep it coming!!  Don't be shy!

 

Full story at:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/carnival-stock-earnings-51664551737

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio   

 

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From the Wall Street Journal this afternoon, they had this headline: Carnival Stock Sinks as Discounting Dings Earnings" with this sub-headline: "Cruise giant’s third-quarter results miss expectations amid higher costs, more discounts.

 

Here are a few of their reporting highlights:Carnival Corp. shares lost more than a fifth of their value Friday as the cruise giant struggled to win over travelers without offering discounts.  Carnival’s loss narrowed and sales rose significantly in the third quarter from last year, when tight Covid-19 restrictions limited cruises, but results fell short of Wall Street expectations.  Costs from everything from food to fuel squeezed the company’s profits more than expected, and problems were compounded as it cut prices to fill its ships. Chief Executive Josh Weinstein, who succeeded longtime CEO Arnold Donald last month, said that the cruise line needs to raise its prices, especially as cruises currently cost less than land-based accommodations such as hotels and resorts.  Carnival, which caters more than its rivals to the middle-market cruising category, where customers could be more affected by inflation, has been filling its ships during the past year by offering promotional deals as departure dates near.

 

Full story at:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/carnival-stock-sinks-as-discounting-dings-earnings-11664556239

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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2 minutes ago, crusinbanjo said:

This post is for you Terry.   Just to keep it going.  Great insight as always!

 

Appreciate, Mr. Banjo, your kind comments and encouragement.  BUT, be careful what you wish and seek.  It might not be all fun, smooth and positive??  

 

From the Wall Street Journal this afternoon, below are the charts for the three major cruise during this past week.  This includes what might be called "Black Friday" as the sun was not shining today on these stocks and their future.  

 

How many stocks see their value drop 23% in one day.  Yes, overall, the market has been down.  But not by these types of margins.  

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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From the Wall Street Journal late this afternoon, below are the charts for the three major cruise lines.  Can it get any worse, especially for Carnival?  By comparison, Royal Caribbean dropping 13% seem mild?:

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As mentioned earlier, I Iistened earlier today to the third quarter review featuring new Carnival CEO Josh Weinstein.  There was lots of "positive spin", but clearly today, those on Wall Street were not buying it.  Below are more of my notes that might offer some insights as to where the cruise lines head for the future.  

 

It was noted that one third of their cruisers booking now are new to them.  They credit "getting word of mouth positives" and beefing up their advertising budgets and efforts.  Several times, it was noted that cruises are "too much of a value” compared to land vacation options.  They said they are pushing all sales channels and cited many of their new leadership for many of their brands and within their corporate structure.  They also dropped lots buzz word/talk as to their push on limiting carbon, being for diversity, etc.  

 

Their 2023 pricing is much higher and they view improvements in bookings, pointing to highly-profitable summer 2023 season.  They say Carnival has repaired "balance" with their ships over time.  They have limited their future new ship builds.  Currency challenges with large Europe connections were mentioned.  Their debt to capital ratio is 50%.  They are working to narrow the mix of FCC’s versus new, fresh bookings.  Carnival has some issues for their US brands vs. overseas/Europe brands.

 

One question was about whether Carnival needs nine brands.  Fuel and currency are big factors with their operational costs.  They admitted higher non-fuel expenses.  Relaxing protocols has helped them.  More closer-in bookings has affected their timings. The 4th quarter won’t be as good.  Lots of seasonality variations in costs and revenue.  It was noted there would no major hurricane impacts for Carnival, maybe a total $10 million impact.  They cited doing well with on-board spending during current operations.

 

Hope these note are not too rambling and are of interest.  Questions? 

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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4 hours ago, TLCOhio said:

 

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RCL getting interesting again.  
 

I couldn’t resist purchasing back in July @ $32.35 after RCL had moved through the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement level.  Got stopped out just a two weeks ago when the stock moved through my 50% gain stop price. So, as you can imagine, never dreamed we’d be approaching my July buy level again this quickly. Its times like these when it’s always good to have some dry powder to put to use.

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I thought the RCL bond refinancing was handled well at good rates.  If RCL can start to get their balance sheet in better shape it may be a great entry point.  Big if of course, so many unknowns.

 

Barrons has a story on cruise line debt today  (2 quotes below)

 

"" In the bond market, some Carnival debt issues now have yields of 14% to 16%. Norwegian Cruise Line debt yields 11% to 14%, while Royal Caribbean debt is yielding 12% to 14%, based on Bloomberg data. Debt prices were down two to six points based on face values of 100 cents on the dollar. The three cruise line operators have junk-grade ratings of single-B from S&P."

 

"Royal Caribbean’s 11.625% issue due in 2027, another 144A issue, trades at 91 to yield around 14%. Its 7.5% bonds due in 2027 trade around 78 and yield 13.5%."

 

 

 

S&P 500 Fibonacci support levels 50% - 3505, 61.8% - 3197.

 

 

 
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2 hours ago, RetiredandTravel said:

I thought the RCL bond refinancing was handled well at good rates.

"Royal Caribbean’s 11.625% issue due in 2027, another 144A issue, trades at 91 to yield around 14%. Its 7.5% bonds due in 2027 trade around 78 and yield 13.5%."

 

Appreciate these very good posting, sharings and follow-ups from Stumblefoot and RetiredandTravel.  Keep it coming!!  These are interesting and challenging financial times??  Very good and savvy stock trading by Stumblefoot!!  How much was being lucky versus having great insights/skills? 

 

From the Wall Street Journal's sister publication of Barron's yesterday morning, they had this headline: The First Three Quarters of 2022 Have Been Bad. The Fourth Could Be Worse. with these highlights:As the quarter draws to a close, it’s a good time to look back at where we’ve been and ahead to what the future holds. In this case, neither is a pretty picture for markets.  To say it’s been a rough year feels like dry understatement. The S&P 500 hit a new closing low for the year on Thursday. That was triggered in part by a downgrade for Apple, a stock that looked invincible this time last year.

 

As the cruise stocks are facing their choppy waters, the overall stock market is not happy and comfortable with the U.S. and world financial conditions.  Right or wrong?

 

Full story at:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/funds-bargains-high-yields-51664552286

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio   

 

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1 hour ago, TLCOhio said:

How much was being lucky versus having great insights/skills? 

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No such thing as luck, Terry.  Luck is nothing more than when preparation meets opportunity. Same thing applies to photographers who capture good shots.

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On 10/1/2022 at 12:45 PM, Stumblefoot said:

 

No such thing as luck, Terry.  Luck is nothing more than when preparation meets opportunity. Same thing applies to photographers who capture good shots.

 

Appreciate this great follow-up from Stumblefoot.  Yes, "preparation AND opportunity" are key, vital factors for making good things happen.  As to photographer secrets, my top "tool for success" can be summarized as . . . "take lots of pictures and only show people the good ones".  Agree that preparation is vital for doing the best.  In photography and life, you must prepare for what is upcoming, take action/shoot with your camera, etc., to anticipate properly  You cannot wait, watch, see something happen and then try to take that picture, etc.  By the time you wait, the action has happened and the opportunity is gone.      

 

From the Wall Street Journal as a lead story this morning, they had this headline: OPEC+ to Weigh Production Cut to Bolster Oil Prices" with this sub-headline: "Group to consider reducing output by 1 million barrels a day, as economic slowdown hurts demand.

 

Could this impact the cruise industry?  Yes!!  Higher fuel prices cost cruise companies more and then it also compounds with added inflation that slows down consumers being willing to spend money for such future travel/adventure.  

 

Here are a few of their story highlights:OPEC+ is set to consider Wednesday its most drastic reduction of production since the pandemic in order to help prop up falling oil prices, a move that could put pressure on global economic growth.  The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and Moscow-led allies, collectively known as OPEC+, is considering a cut of more than 1 million barrels a day, delegates in the group said.  Concerns about a slowing global economy have dragged oil prices down at their fastest pace since the Covid-19 outbreak began in early 2020, prompting OPEC+ to consider ways to prop up the price of oil.  Adel Hamaizia, a visiting fellow at the Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Harvard University, said the move could play a role in making recessions worse in some countries.

 

Full story at:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/opec-to-weigh-production-cut-to-bolster-oil-prices-11664734482

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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1 hour ago, rkacruiser said:

What was Mr. Weinstein's response?  If he made one.  

 

YES, great follow-up question from our SW Ohio neighbor.  Just like those in politics on both sides do, this excellent question was ducked and avoided.  As I recall, the new Carnival CEO shifted forward quickly to cite how good is the new leadership at many of their different brands.  Long-term, Carnival might have to address these serious policy/marketing/management questions.  

 

In my mind, Princess and Holland-America seem somewhat similar.  As the customer bases age, I am not sure Carnival can justify this large number of different brands.  Remember when General Motors shrunk up their various brand offerings that seemed to overlap and compete with each other?  

 

From the Wall Street Journal late this afternoon, below is their chart for how well Royal Caribbean has performed today.  WOW!!  Big jump up of nearly 17%.  Norwegian and Carnival were up 13.3% and 16.8%, respectively.  Overall, the S&P 500 was up nearly 3%.  Big improvements today.  How long will this "bounce-back" last?

 

THANKS!  Enjoy!  Terry in Ohio

 

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1 hour ago, TLCOhio said:

ES, great follow-up question from our SW Ohio neighbor.  Just like those in politics on both sides do, this excellent question was ducked and avoided.  As I recall, the new Carnival CEO shifted forward quickly to cite how good is the new leadership at many of their different brands.  Long-term, Carnival might have to address these serious policy/marketing/management questions.  

 

In my mind, Princess and Holland-America seem somewhat similar.  As the customer bases age, I am not sure Carnival can justify this large number of different brands.  Remember when General Motors shrunk up their various brand offerings that seemed to overlap and compete with each other?  

 

There is, in my opinion, some belt tightening needed on the corporate level that does not impact the guest experience.  Aging of the customer base?  Not sure that makes a difference, but your analogy with GM is valid.  

 

I learned that when I purchased a Chevrolet many years ago.  Then, visited the plant in Ypsilanti, Michigan where my car was assembled and saw models of other GM brands on the same assembly line as where mine had been!  Chrysler has done the same.  

 

1 hour ago, TLCOhio said:

Big improvements today.  How long will this "bounce-back" last?

 

There is no news that justify this.  Please, day traders, get the heck out of the market!  

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