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While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

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14 minutes ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   


We sailed Oasis class last year for the first time. I was very disappointed to find there are no indoor venues where you can see the sea. Incredible engineering feat but, for me, not a great cruising experience. 

 


 

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19 minutes ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

 

 

You have just described the Brilliance and the Vision, both of which are expected to be sold.

 

Cruise ships are beginning to look like casinos to me:  beautiful inside, lots of things to do, few clocks, and lots of encouragement to spend money.

 

That's why no matter what ship we are on, no matter what cruise line, we head to the upper lounge that has views of the ocean, and that's our go-to spot if we aren't eating, in our cabin, or out on deck.

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51 minutes ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

 

I'm confused

Great views from SL/CK on Oasis ships 

Quantum Class has Two70

Freedom Class has the VCL 

Voyager has the VCL as well

 

Have you tried any of those🤔

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59 minutes ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

I strongly agree.  I am not a fan of the promenade mall.  It's too dark and noisy.  Doesnt have the feel that a cruise ship should have Imo.

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So many places to see the ocean while on a cruise.  You're literally surrounded by the ocean.  But maybe it's me.  I live in a coastal city and see the ocean often so if I go a few hours without seeing it, I'm fine.

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20 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I'm confused

Great views from SL/CK on Oasis ships 

Quantum Class has Two70

Freedom Class has the VCL 

Voyager has the VCL as well

 

Have you tried any of those🤔

And that is the disappointment of the Oasis class ships when they took away the VCL to only give it to those sailing in suites.  Of course, understand why, just disappointing.  Was such a beautiful area for everyone previously. 

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Issues with most VCL on the Royal's ships, they are so high away from the water, you lose touch with the outside.

 

For a relaxed lounge for a before or after dinner drink there is nothing like what is on the Celebrity  Millennium Class ships,

Rendevous Lounge's are the best  !!

https://www.cruisecritic.com/photos/ships/celebrity-millennium-167/rendezvous-lounge-285652/rendezvous-lounge--v138632/

 

We did an Alaska Cruise on Infinity............when going through the Inside Passage, the scenery on both sides of the ship was awesome....... We moved around in the lounge to get great views..We were so close to the outside felt like we could reach out and touch the land on each side of the ship.

This lounge is on deck 4.

 

I wish Royal with build some ships with those kind of views from the lounges.

 

 

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1 hour ago, denamo said:

And that is the disappointment of the Oasis class ships when they took away the VCL to only give it to those sailing in suites.  Of course, understand why, just disappointing.  Was such a beautiful area for everyone previously. 

 

I seem to recall reading OP liked suites when not booking yachts. 

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Design trends will continue to change. It seems like Royal comes out with a new ship class every 5 years or so. Icon class may have some surprises.

 

The high demand for balcony rooms is one of the main reasons public viewing spaces are now limited. Most of the side exteriors are dedicated to balconies, nothing to do with Promenade. However, they could put shops in the middle and open up outside as some other lines have done. 🙂

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3 hours ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

Did that and done now. Vision Class with open glass/Sea Views. Radiance Class was designed using some the best of Voyager and Vision(Glass). Many areas to sit with Sea Views on Radiance Class. Years later they put Cabins in some these areas on Vision. Actually good mix for now with Ship Classes, some having Centrum, some having those "Shopping Malls" and others for now with Sea Views. Choice... Radiance is my Favorite and only Class been on for yrs. In past all Cruise Ships looked alike, more differences over last 20yrs. But don't think you will get what you're talking about. Now, with economy and CV, what we have is going be it for yrs

Edited by ONECRUISER

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4 hours ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

 

Obviously you have never sailed Quantum Class. 

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5 hours ago, Hoopster95 said:

 

Obviously you have never sailed Quantum Class. 

The only public area from within the ship that has ocean views is all the way at the rear with 270.  The Esplanade, in my opinion, is a complete utter failure of a design.   Even the Oasis class doesn't feature that many shops.

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The next design trend is to have centre haul of the ship as a canal type swimming pool and lower floor cabin has cabana directly connected to this swimming pool aka canal. Imagine you are on Oasis class ship, instead of a Central Park, it is a swimming pool going around and the cabin will be added next to canal. Those shops and restaurants will be moved upstairs. Inside cabin will be history as it will be utilised for shops and eateries. Remember when you see a ship like that you heard from me first.

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11 hours ago, James4me said:

While not new, but very popular, would RCCL ever build another ship that has windows you can see out of and see the ocean rather than closed in being in a shopping mall?  It would be great to see the outside of your sailing with nice seating areas to enjoy the view from inside the ship. The whole purpose of cruising is to see the ocean and sites that come with it.   Not the Mall of America.   

 

Cruising has changed over the years and for the large cruiselines such as RCCL the highlight is not anymore being out at sea, it's about being out at sea on a entertainment venue catering to a different much younger crowd. Neverheless on the larger ships as mentioned baove you have enough opportunities to explore the sea.Firstly, the newere ships have many more balcony cabins, event venues such as 270 on Quantum Class or even the Boardwalk area on Oasis Class. For the more classic experience, on Quantum Class you can walk around almost the whole lenght of the ship on Deck 15 surounded by the ocean.

 

Otherwise, the more classic built ships, which tend to be now a days the luxury expedition or high end cruiselines such as also Azamara and Silversea where you have more inside venues with views on the sea. Also, the Edge Class on Celebrity has great new experiences with ocean views both inside and outside, one of the highlights Magic Carpet.

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9 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I seem to recall reading OP liked suites when not booking yachts. 


I guess they would have never seen the view from the trough on Oasis Class, ops I mean wind jammer. 
 

LOL, I totally forgot about the yachts until you mentioned it. 

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I guess if you want to see the ocean you book a balcony cabin.  If you want to see the promenade you book those cabins. On Oasis and Allure; you can book central park cabins where you see central park which is pretty quiet; or you can book the boardwalk cabins and get to see the ocean and boardwalk area both.  

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11 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I'm confused

Great views from SL/CK on Oasis ships 

Quantum Class has Two70

Freedom Class has the VCL 

Voyager has the VCL as well

 

Have you tried any of those🤔

As you know the vast majority of people on Oasis class do not have access to SL/CK.  

Agree 270 and VCL are wonderful spaces, pity Oasis class doesn't have something similar 

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10 minutes ago, sgmn said:

As you know the vast majority of people on Oasis class do not have access to SL/CK.  

Agree 270 and VCL are wonderful spaces, pity Oasis class doesn't have something similar 

 

The OP has said previously she only does suites. 

 

Oasis used to have a public VCL, but it seems it was under utilized

 

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2 hours ago, jerseyjjs said:

The Esplanade, in my opinion, is a complete utter failure of a design. 

For outside views, yes, for revenue, probably not.

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John&LaLa;  where does the OP say they only book suites?  I did not see that on this thread.  Was this from another post?  Thanks

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18 minutes ago, sgmn said:

As you know the vast majority of people on Oasis class do not have access to SL/CK.  

Agree 270 and VCL are wonderful spaces, pity Oasis class doesn't have something similar 

 

That makes each ship class unique and since preferences vary each one will find a ship class they like best.

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9 hours ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I seem to recall reading OP liked suites when not booking yachts. 

We never booked a yacht. Suites are nice. SL/CK not so good when it’s packed. 😇

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2 hours ago, jerseyjjs said:

The only public area from within the ship that has ocean views is all the way at the rear with 270.  The Esplanade, in my opinion, is a complete utter failure of a design.   Even the Oasis class doesn't feature that many shops.

Also upstairs in the music hall, sorrentos, la patisserie, boleros, all 4 MDRs, Chops, Wonderland, Jamies, the Solarium, pool decks, Johnny rockets, windjammer, gym, and seaplex. All of these areas have ocean views.

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