HBE4 Posted June 17, 2020 #326 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: Positive cases are high due to massive walk up testing, a new round of jail and nursing home testing. Hospital occupancy is low, deaths are low, moving about with our daily lives Congrats, keep up the good work. As long as you continue to figure out where the new cases are popping up and contain them there, don't let your guard down. Even when things were at there worst in New York, 80-85% of covid cases did not require hospitalization. Now, despite the reopening and increased testing, number of cases continue to go down. Which apparently makes NY the exception to the "increased testing means increased number cases" rule that is continually touted here on CC. 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said: Death of an individual is indeed tragic, but nowhere near so the death of a national economy. Probably an even more overblown story than covid is how the next Great Depression is right around the corner. I've been hearing it for 3 months yet my 401K continues to go up and the President touted May's jobs number and retail sales are up. I guess you can do both - protect people's health and their livelihoods. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 17, 2020 #327 Share Posted June 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, HBE4 said: Is this a trusted resource? https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/16/texas-mayors-greg-abbott-face-masks/ "The mayors of nine of Texas' biggest cities urged Gov. Greg Abbott in a letter Tuesday to grant them the "authority to set rules and regulations" mandating face masks during the coronavirus pandemic. As COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations continue to climb in Texas, an executive order from Abbott bans local governments from imposing fines or criminal penalties on people who don't wear masks in public." Or how about this one. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Texas-mayors-to-Gov-Abbott-Let-us-mandate-face-15344976.php "Health officials attribute recent spikes in hospitalizations to the Memorial Day holiday weekend in late May when residents headed to beaches and barbecues." "“This one step could prove to be the most effective way to prevent the transmission of this disease,” the mayors wrote. “Yet many people in many of our cities are still refusing to wear these face coverings even though these coverings are scientifically proven to help prevent the disease from spreading.” Totally agree with you! I have posted numerous items from various sources. The biggest comeback is: ' biased media reports.' Amazing how some people use that phrase as it is so very common and constantly used. LOL Yet, these same people have no source or 'unbiased media reports' to refute the published facts. I guess if you believe the lies/falsehoods, they become true. We have been hearing that for quite some time now. Is there any source that they would believe? Like someone said: We Did It.' They sure did and it is continuing to cause deaths daily. JMHO 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dat Cruisin Couple Posted June 17, 2020 #328 Share Posted June 17, 2020 17 hours ago, BigHouseFootball said: If you chose not to wear a mask you are putting your wants and needs ahead of your fellow human beings. Being selfish is the cornerstone of Western Culture which regards individualism as a prized characteristic. Where as Eastern Culture puts the emphasis on community over a individualism. I wear a mask. Everyone should. I agree. Saw an interesting article that getting people to wear masks for the community benefits is tough when people won't return shopping carts to the corrals in parking lots. <sigh> 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
hazence Posted June 17, 2020 #329 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service to sustain life. There are many vacation options....cruising is just one of them. Cruising is also an particular “experience“.... that is the reason for spending money to vacation on a ship. That experience is a about dining, shows, activities that include many other people. It includes ports where one mingles in crowds of locals. It includes crowded pools and show venues. All of these things do involve risk of some kind of viral infection...we have seen this well before COVID. Some posters here are willing to assume that risk to have the same sort of wonderful experience that cruising has always provided for them. Others want an environment that is as risk free as possible...and that means imposing their needs or fears on others...and altering the cruise experience of others, so they can be included. Again, cruising is one of many vacation options. Maybe the selfish ones are those who are demanding cruising be altered even if it spoils the vacation experience for others who don’t share their fears? One can rent an oceanfront hotel room with a balcony facing the sea and have room service deliver all your meals...and thereby avoid crowds, unmasked people, and buffets. Some of the comments on here are so fearful and demanding of no risk cruising, it would be near impossible to enjoy “the experience”...it would be so changed, confining, and regimental. Why would any of us who are in open up areas spend money to “vacation” in those circumstances? Edited June 17, 2020 by hazence 5 Link to post Share on other sites
hazence Posted June 17, 2020 #330 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dat Cruisin Couple said: I agree. Saw an interesting article that getting people to wear masks for the community benefits is tough when people won't return shopping carts to the corrals in parking lots. <sigh> 🙂 i always return my cart. 😊 But if I’m one of only 3 people wearing a mask in my grocery store (besides employees who pull them down to talk) ...what’s the point? All this pontificating sounds a bit weird in other parts of the country. Just saying.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted June 17, 2020 #331 Share Posted June 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, hazence said: Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service to sustain life. Those are not mutually exclusive topics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
island lady Posted June 17, 2020 #332 Share Posted June 17, 2020 15 hours ago, davekathy said: Like I said, we'd wear a mask if the requirement is mandatory and enforced! You're welcome. More room on the ship for us. Bon Voyage...🤣🥂 And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 17, 2020 #333 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, island lady said: And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
HBE4 Posted June 17, 2020 #334 Share Posted June 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, hazence said: i always return my cart. 😊 But if I’m one of only 3 people wearing a mask in my grocery store (besides employees who pull them down to talk) ...what’s the point? All this pontificating sounds a bit weird in other parts of the country. Just saying.... hazence - good to see you back and glad you are not contributing to the issue that is leading 3 SC communities to be in the country top 30 hot spots. https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/16/three-sc-metropolitan-areas-currently-among-top-hot-spots-america-covid-/ Hopefully your magical zip code is not among them. 😉 3 Link to post Share on other sites
grandgeezer Posted June 17, 2020 #335 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, island lady said: And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 By more room, does empty count? If people don't start wearing masks social distancing, and listening to the advise of the experts (besides the ones on CC), the ships won't sail until a vaccine comes out, if there still is a cruise industry. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
island lady Posted June 17, 2020 #336 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there. Most likely...but I can do this if needed: 😄 😄 Just joking...we will probably do what we have been doing the last few cruises....just have a glass of wine on our balcony for HH. 😉 Edited June 17, 2020 by island lady 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Milwaukee Eight Posted June 17, 2020 #337 Share Posted June 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, HBE4 said: Hopefully your magical zip code is not among them. 😉 I wonder if the dome got a leak? 😇. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
fandash Posted June 17, 2020 #338 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, hazence said: Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service to sustain life. There are many vacation options....cruising is just one of them. Cruising is also an particular “experience“.... that is the reason for spending money to vacation on a ship. That experience is a about dining, shows, activities that include many other people. It includes ports where one mingles in crowds of locals. It includes crowded pools and show venues. All of these things do involve risk of some kind of viral infection...we have seen this well before COVID. Some posters here are willing to assume that risk to have the same sort of wonderful experience that cruising has always provided for them. Others want an environment that is as risk free as possible...and that means imposing their needs or fears on others...and altering the cruise experience of others, so they can be included. Again, cruising is one of many vacation options. Maybe the selfish ones are those who are demanding cruising be altered even if it spoils the vacation experience for others who don’t share their fears? One can rent an oceanfront hotel room with a balcony facing the sea and have room service deliver all your meals...and thereby avoid crowds, unmasked people, and buffets. Some of the comments on here are so fearful and demanding of no risk cruising, it would be near impossible to enjoy “the experience”...it would be so changed, confining, and regimental. Why would any of us who are in open up areas spend money to “vacation” in those circumstances? totally agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites
davekathy Posted June 17, 2020 #339 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, island lady said: And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 That's right. We'll be in the DL for sure.🍷 I'll do my part by protecting others by drinking more to get the alcohol content higher in my bloodstream. 🤣 Edited June 17, 2020 by davekathy 3 Link to post Share on other sites
davekathy Posted June 17, 2020 #340 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, grandgeezer said: ... (besides the ones on CC), Including you. But then again everyone still has a right to their opinion. We don't live in a bubble or have our heads buried in the sand either. We hope there will be a vaccine in the near future. Nothing to do with cruising. That line will form behind us. Edited June 17, 2020 by davekathy Link to post Share on other sites
island lady Posted June 17, 2020 #341 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, davekathy said: That's right. We'll be in the DL for sure.🍷 I'll do my part by protecting others by drinking more to get the alcohol content higher in my bloodstream. 🤣 Oh what a great idea!! Much tastier than drinking bleach/disinfectants. 😵😜😂😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites
island lady Posted June 17, 2020 #342 Share Posted June 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, davekathy said: That line will form behind us. Oh no...not the dreaded lines??!! 😱 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 17, 2020 #343 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, HBE4 said: Maybe those will show up in next weeks increase? 1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I could have sworn there was a big funeral in and around Houston with masses of people? Several other States too. I guess the media and others don’t think these events contributed to the spread of CV19? Personally, this is a little too much! Not very funny nor thoughtful. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Milwaukee Eight Posted June 17, 2020 #344 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Oxo said: Personally, this is a little too much! Not very funny nor thoughtful. So, you don’t think the crowds we have seen over the past few weeks have contributed to the spread? Indoor crowds in 3 locations and not much social distancing. It wasn’t funny. It was sad. M8 6 Link to post Share on other sites
John&LaLa Posted June 17, 2020 #345 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there. I thought you never visit🤔 Link to post Share on other sites
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted June 17, 2020 #346 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Wearing a mask on a cruise is not making a vacation any fun at all. If a person is healthy, catching the virus would probably not be anything at all. So much you can catch from other people and we never gave it much thought till now. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 17, 2020 #347 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: I thought you never visit🤔 I don't go during happy hour. I visit plenty. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
zonacruiser25 Posted June 17, 2020 #348 Share Posted June 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Wearing a mask on a cruise is not making a vacation any fun at all. If a person is healthy, catching the virus would probably not be anything at all. So much you can catch from other people and we never gave it much thought till now. good comments on this page. AZ is now a "hot spot" but not quite sure what that is saying. We all need to be smart and practice good hygiene. I have worn a mask at Costco and on a plane. As I have already said, I will not be cruising with a mask and will do some great road trips for a while. Can't wait to get back to cruising! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixCruiser Posted June 17, 2020 #349 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: I thought you never visit🤔 I don't visit the lounges and know how crowed they sometimes can be just by reading posts on CC. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 18, 2020 #350 Share Posted June 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Why do you think it’s me deleting your posts. I’d be the last soul on earth before they made me an admin. I suggest you go read the rules for posting. Peace M8 I've read the rules for postings. Been on CC to many years to not know these rules. Help me to understand if you take offense to my postings referencing you. I thought maybe you took offense and complained to the monitor. If you didn't, I apologize thinking that you did. It just seemed strange that two of my postings in response to you were immediately deleted. Maybe the term hog was misinterpreted. With your background, I assumed we would both understand that HOG was a motorcycle or bike. Did you see the pic I posted? That was really some work. Link to post Share on other sites
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