Masks

[HBE4]

1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Positive cases are high due to massive walk up testing, a new round of jail and nursing home testing. 
Hospital occupancy is low, deaths are low, moving about with our daily lives 

 

Congrats, keep up the good work. As long as you continue to figure out where the new cases are popping up and contain them there, don't let your guard down.

 

Even when things were at there worst in New York, 80-85% of covid cases did not require hospitalization.  Now, despite the reopening and increased testing, number of cases continue to go down.  Which apparently makes NY the exception to the "increased testing means increased number cases" rule that is continually touted here on CC.

 

1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Death of an individual is indeed tragic, but nowhere near so the death of a national economy. 

 

Probably an even more overblown story than covid is how the next Great Depression is right around the corner. I've been hearing it for 3 months yet my 401K continues to go up and the President touted May's jobs number and retail sales are up.

 

I guess you can do both - protect people's health and their livelihoods.

 

 

[Oxo]

26 minutes ago, HBE4 said:

Is this a trusted resource?

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/16/texas-mayors-greg-abbott-face-masks/

 

"The mayors of nine of Texas' biggest cities urged Gov. Greg Abbott in a letter Tuesday to grant them the "authority to set rules and regulations" mandating face masks during the coronavirus pandemic.

 

As COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations continue to climb in Texas, an executive order from Abbott bans local governments from imposing fines or criminal penalties on people who don't wear masks in public."

 

Or how about this one.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Texas-mayors-to-Gov-Abbott-Let-us-mandate-face-15344976.php

 

"Health officials attribute recent spikes in hospitalizations to the Memorial Day holiday weekend in late May when residents headed to beaches and barbecues."

 

"“This one step could prove to be the most effective way to prevent the transmission of this disease,” the mayors wrote. “Yet many people in many of our cities are still refusing to wear these face coverings even though these coverings are scientifically proven to help prevent the disease from spreading.”

 

Totally agree with you! I have posted numerous items from various sources. The biggest comeback is:

' biased media reports.'

Amazing how some people use that phrase as it is so very common and constantly used. LOL

Yet, these same people have no source or 'unbiased media reports' to refute the published facts. I guess if you believe the lies/falsehoods, they become true. We have been hearing that for quite some time now. Is there any source that they would believe?

Like someone said: We Did It.' They sure did and it is continuing to cause deaths daily. JMHO 

[Dat Cruisin Couple]

17 hours ago, BigHouseFootball said:

If you chose not to wear a mask you are putting your wants and needs ahead of your fellow human beings. Being selfish is the cornerstone of Western Culture which regards individualism as a prized characteristic. Where as Eastern Culture puts the emphasis on community over a individualism. 
 

I wear a mask. Everyone should. 

 

I agree. Saw an interesting article that getting people to wear masks for the community benefits is tough when people won't return shopping carts to the corrals in parking lots. <sigh> 🙂

[hazence]

Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service  to sustain life. 
 

There are many vacation options....cruising is just one of them. Cruising is also an particular “experience“.... that is the reason for spending money to vacation on a ship. That experience is a about dining, shows, activities that include many other people. It includes ports where one mingles in crowds of locals. It includes crowded pools and show venues. All of these things do involve risk of some kind of viral infection...we have seen this well before COVID.

 

Some posters here are willing to assume that risk to have the same sort of wonderful experience that cruising has always provided for them. Others want an environment that is as risk free as possible...and that means imposing their needs or fears on others...and altering the cruise experience of others, so they can be included.

 

Again, cruising is one of many vacation options. Maybe the selfish ones are those who are demanding cruising be altered even if it spoils the vacation experience for others who don’t share their fears?

 

One can rent an oceanfront hotel room with a balcony facing the sea and have room service deliver all your meals...and thereby avoid crowds, unmasked people, and buffets. Some of the comments on here are so fearful and demanding of no risk cruising, it would be near impossible to enjoy “the experience”...it would be so changed, confining, and regimental. 
 

Why would any of us who are in open up areas spend money to “vacation” in those circumstances?

Edited June 17, 2020 by hazence

[hazence]

5 minutes ago, Dat Cruisin Couple said:

 

I agree. Saw an interesting article that getting people to wear masks for the community benefits is tough when people won't return shopping carts to the corrals in parking lots. <sigh> 🙂

i always return my cart. 😊 But if I’m one of only 3 people wearing a mask in my grocery store  (besides employees who pull them down to talk) ...what’s the point? All this pontificating sounds a bit weird in other parts of the country. Just saying....

[CRUISEFAN0001]

9 minutes ago, hazence said:

Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service  to sustain life. 

Those are not mutually exclusive topics.

[island lady]

15 hours ago, davekathy said:

Like I said, we'd wear a mask if the requirement is mandatory and enforced! You're welcome. More room on the ship for us. Bon Voyage...🤣🥂

 

And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 

[Ocean Boy]

12 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 

Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there.

[HBE4]

22 minutes ago, hazence said:

i always return my cart. 😊 But if I’m one of only 3 people wearing a mask in my grocery store  (besides employees who pull them down to talk) ...what’s the point? All this pontificating sounds a bit weird in other parts of the country. Just saying....

 

hazence - good to see you back and glad you are not contributing to the issue that is leading 3 SC communities to be in the country top 30 hot spots.

 

https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/16/three-sc-metropolitan-areas-currently-among-top-hot-spots-america-covid-/

 

Hopefully your magical zip code is not among them. 😉

[grandgeezer]

12 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 

By more room, does empty count? If people don't start wearing masks social distancing, and listening to the advise of the experts (besides the ones on CC), the ships won't sail until a vaccine comes out, if there still is a cruise industry.

[island lady]

23 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there.

 

Most likely...but I can do this if needed:     😄 😄   Just joking...we will probably do what we have been doing the last few cruises....just have a glass of wine on our balcony for HH.  😉 

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by island lady

[Milwaukee Eight]

31 minutes ago, HBE4 said:

Hopefully your magical zip code is not among them. 😉

I wonder if the dome got a leak? 😇. 

[fandash]

1 hour ago, hazence said:

Let’s remember on this particular board we are here to discuss cruising not an essential service  to sustain life. 
 

There are many vacation options....cruising is just one of them. Cruising is also an particular “experience“.... that is the reason for spending money to vacation on a ship. That experience is a about dining, shows, activities that include many other people. It includes ports where one mingles in crowds of locals. It includes crowded pools and show venues. All of these things do involve risk of some kind of viral infection...we have seen this well before COVID.

 

Some posters here are willing to assume that risk to have the same sort of wonderful experience that cruising has always provided for them. Others want an environment that is as risk free as possible...and that means imposing their needs or fears on others...and altering the cruise experience of others, so they can be included.

 

Again, cruising is one of many vacation options. Maybe the selfish ones are those who are demanding cruising be altered even if it spoils the vacation experience for others who don’t share their fears?

 

One can rent an oceanfront hotel room with a balcony facing the sea and have room service deliver all your meals...and thereby avoid crowds, unmasked people, and buffets. Some of the comments on here are so fearful and demanding of no risk cruising, it would be near impossible to enjoy “the experience”...it would be so changed, confining, and regimental. 
 

Why would any of us who are in open up areas spend money to “vacation” in those circumstances?

totally agree with you.

[davekathy]

1 hour ago, island lady said:

 

And more room in the CL/DL/SL 😄 😄 

That's right. We'll be in the DL for sure.🍷 I'll do my part by protecting others by drinking more to get the alcohol content higher in my bloodstream. 🤣 

Edited June 17, 2020 by davekathy

[davekathy]

1 hour ago, grandgeezer said:

... (besides the ones on CC),

Including you. But then again everyone still has a right to their opinion. We don't live in a bubble or have our heads buried in the sand either. We hope there will be a vaccine in the near future. Nothing to do with cruising. That line will form behind us. 

Edited June 17, 2020 by davekathy

[island lady]

1 hour ago, davekathy said:

That's right. We'll be in the DL for sure.🍷 I'll do my part by protecting others by drinking more to get the alcohol content higher in my bloodstream. 🤣 

 

Oh what a great idea!!  Much tastier than drinking bleach/disinfectants.  😵😜😂😁

[island lady]

56 minutes ago, davekathy said:

That line will form behind us. 

 

Oh no...not the dreaded lines??!!  😱

[Oxo]

1 hour ago, HBE4 said:

Maybe those will show up in next weeks increase? 

 1 hour ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I could have sworn there was a big funeral in and around Houston with masses of people?  Several other States too. I guess the media and others don’t think these events contributed to the spread of CV19?  

Personally, this is a little too much!

Not very funny nor thoughtful. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

5 minutes ago, Oxo said:

Personally, this is a little too much!

Not very funny nor thoughtful. 

So, you don’t think the crowds we have seen over the past few weeks have contributed to the spread?  Indoor crowds in 3 locations and not much social distancing. It wasn’t funny. It was sad. 
 

M8

[John&LaLa]

6 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

Where there won't be masks because everyone is always drinking or eating something in there.

 

I thought you never visit🤔

[ALWAYS CRUZIN]

Wearing a mask on a cruise is not making a vacation any fun at all. If a person is healthy, catching the virus would probably not be anything at all. So much you can catch from other people and we never gave it much thought till now. 

[Ocean Boy]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I thought you never visit🤔

I don't go during happy hour. I visit plenty.

[zonacruiser25]

56 minutes ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said:

Wearing a mask on a cruise is not making a vacation any fun at all. If a person is healthy, catching the virus would probably not be anything at all. So much you can catch from other people and we never gave it much thought till now. 

good comments on this page.  AZ is now a "hot spot" but not quite sure what that is saying.  We all need to be smart and practice good hygiene.  I have worn a mask at Costco and on a plane.  As I have already said, I will not be cruising with a mask and will do some great road trips for a while.  Can't wait to get back to cruising!  

[PhoenixCruiser]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I thought you never visit🤔

 

I don't visit the lounges and know how crowed they sometimes can be just by reading posts on CC.

[Oxo]

41 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Why do you think it’s me deleting your posts. I’d be the last soul on earth before they made me an admin. I suggest you go read the rules for posting. 
 

Peace

 

M8

I've read the rules for postings. Been on CC to many years to not know these rules. 

Help me to understand if you take offense to my postings referencing  you. 

I thought maybe you took offense and complained to the monitor. If you didn't, I apologize thinking that you did. 

It just seemed strange that two of my postings in response to you were immediately deleted. 

Maybe the term hog was misinterpreted.  With your background, I assumed we would both understand that HOG was a motorcycle or bike.

Did you see the pic I posted? That was really some work.