HBE4 Posted June 18, 2020 #401 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Anyhow. What does any of this have to do with wearing masks on a cruise. A bit off the topic is it not Nothing and way off topic. My mind tends to wander. On topic: I would not cruise if a mask was required. Now, if it was only required during embarkation/disembarkation, muster drill, walking into the MDR or waiting on line at the WJ while they plate my food for me, I guess I might reconsider. But poolside, in the theater, casino, hanging out at the piano bar, etc, definitely a non-starter for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 18, 2020 #402 Share Posted June 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, HBE4 said: But poolside, in the theater, casino, hanging out at the piano bar, etc, definitely a non-starter for me. Poolside Ok. No need. Theater, casino, bar - unless 6 feet distance, mask should be required if used at other times on ship. JMHO Link to post Share on other sites
Milwaukee Eight Posted June 18, 2020 #403 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Oxo said: Theater, casino, bar - unless 6 feet Actually, in most metric countries it’s 6.56’ as they use 2 Meters. 😇 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 18, 2020 #404 Share Posted June 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Actually, in most metric countries it’s 6.56’ as they use 2 Meters. 😇 Thanks, i will have to increase my piece of string before I go on the cruise. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #405 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, ALWAYS CRUZIN said: Whenever we had 2 or more we always road side by side and that is closer that 6 ft. Anyhow. What does any of this have to do with wearing masks on a cruise. A bit off the topic is it not. Is there anything that has been left unsaid about wearing a mask on a cruise? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #406 Share Posted June 18, 2020 52 minutes ago, Oxo said: Poolside Ok. No need. Theater, casino, bar - unless 6 feet distance, mask should be required if used at other times on ship. JMHO Nope, if masks are necessary for safety then it is still too risky to be on a ship. JMHO 6 Link to post Share on other sites
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted June 18, 2020 #407 Share Posted June 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Nope, if masks are necessary for safety then it is still too risky to be on a ship. JMHO Not true. Masks are a preventative, not corrective measure. All the masks in the world won't help someone who has COVID (knowingly/asymptomatic) already...except to avoid spreading it further. If people get tested and cleared to board, and masks are required to some degree (such as public areas outside the cabin)...then it's only a preventative measure...with nominal risks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #408 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said: Not true. Masks are a preventative, not corrective measure. All the masks in the world won't help someone who has COVID (knowingly/asymptomatic) already...except to avoid spreading it further. If people get tested and cleared to board, and masks are required to some degree (such as public areas outside the cabin)...then it's only a preventative measure...with nominal risks. That is your opinion, not mine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chipmaster Posted June 18, 2020 #409 Share Posted June 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said: Not true. Masks are a preventative, not corrective measure. All the masks in the world won't help someone who has COVID (knowingly/asymptomatic) already...except to avoid spreading it further. If people get tested and cleared to board, and masks are required to some degree (such as public areas outside the cabin)...then it's only a preventative measure...with nominal risks. Frankly you can test everyone before they start their travels, can't stop anyone getting while they are traveling to the ship At Embarkation they can take your temperature, even do the antibody test, but if you got it while traveling the virus likely won't be detected for another few days to week. Just think you'll be asymptomatic spreader in the thousands at the bar, dining room, theater, in the elevator, walking by people in those spacious hallways. If anything like on airplanes and other high density places the mask is the best bet to reduce spreading, but nah let's skip them. Link to post Share on other sites
Ourusualbeach Posted June 18, 2020 #410 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said: Is there anything that has been left unsaid about wearing a mask on a cruise? Have we talked about what colours are acceptable for formal night? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chipmaster Posted June 18, 2020 #411 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, sj25 said: My thought if I have to wear a mask anywhere on the cruise I sure hope they allow you to cancel without penalty because I will not go. I have to wear them at work and don't want to do that on vacation!!! LOL, I have been WFH now for three months, no mask, darn I could go pantless too. Just need to make sure my camera is aimed right and I don't stand up, LOL. I'd leap at the chance to go on vacation and wear a mask happily to be on vacation anywhere fun. My county just went to phase 1 with gyms, salons and eat-in allowed. Got out and wore mask to the gym, after a 3 month break, sadly most of the other bozo's didn't care and went maskless. I'm on the fence to return to the gym. I am so happy to get out even with the mask, darn even putting on my fancy uncomfortable formal wear to cruise too. Edited June 18, 2020 by chipmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #412 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, chipmaster said: Frankly you can test everyone before they start their travels, can't stop anyone getting while they are traveling to the ship At Embarkation they can take your temperature, even do the antibody test, but if you got it while traveling the virus likely won't be detected for another few days to week. Just think you'll be asymptomatic spreader in the thousands at the bar, dining room, theater, in the elevator, walking by people in those spacious hallways. If anything like on airplanes and other high density places the mask is the best bet to reduce spreading, but nah let's skip them. The best way to reduce spreading the virus is to not be engaging in non-essential travel and cruising. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #413 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Have we talked about what colours are acceptable for formal night? Nothing quite like a black tux and black mask.... sharp. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chipmaster Posted June 18, 2020 #414 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: The best way to reduce spreading the virus is to not be engaging in non-essential travel and cruising. That was lock down was about a lot of things forgotten. It was to flatten the curve and not overwhelm the healthcare system; hospital beds, ICU beds, ventilators. From what I have seen we made lots of noise about the world ending and NYC going to be in big trouble but NYC NEVER ran out of beds, ICUs, nor ventilators. The lives lost are tragic, but we flattened the curve! The original purpose that we went to this very life and economic disruptive, we seemed to have achieved the goal of not overwhelming. What is clear to me the problem isn't opening the problem is the choice of people to position the opening to return to absolutely stupid behavior, gathering sans any masks/distancing, bars/pools/beaches just packed, etc. etc. Unlike if you look at some countries where the culture and citizens have some ability to self sacrifice for the better good of the country, here it is all or nothing, simply stupid, lack of leadership/sacrifice, but what would that surprise anyone, countries with strong leadership or culture are more successful than those with weak leadership and weak culture. I think travel is a necessary evil of life, cruising less so, but if we are going to allow schools to open, then I'd say we should allow cruises. But schools talk about strict measures, masks, safe distance ( we'll see if they can do it ), airlines are trying it ( already notable drama with me more important than neighbors passengers ), I would expect cruises to have the same challenges. Edited June 18, 2020 by chipmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites
chipmaster Posted June 18, 2020 #415 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: Nothing quite like a black tux and black mask.... sharp. I'm thinking it would look good wouldn't it 😷 Link to post Share on other sites
Milwaukee Eight Posted June 18, 2020 #416 Share Posted June 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, chipmaster said: That was lock down was about a lot of things forgotten. Did you see much lockdown the last 3 weeks? I didn’t. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean Boy Posted June 18, 2020 #417 Share Posted June 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, chipmaster said: I think travel is a necessary evil of life, cruising less so, but if we are going to allow schools to open, then I'd say we should allow cruises. But schools talk about strict measures, masks, safe distance ( we'll see if they can do it ), airlines are trying it ( already notable drama with me more important than neighbors passengers ), I would expect cruises to have the same challenges. Travel is a necessary evil of life? I don't get that at all. Travel is awesome. Travel during these times for business may be a necessary evil. You are really equating opening schools to cruising? Education, in my view of life is essential, cruising not so much. Link to post Share on other sites
molly361 Posted June 19, 2020 #418 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: Have we talked about what colours are acceptable for formal night? I'm ready for my B2B 2 Link to post Share on other sites
molly361 Posted June 19, 2020 #419 Share Posted June 19, 2020 And for Dan 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Ourusualbeach Posted June 19, 2020 #420 Share Posted June 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, molly361 said: I'm ready for my B2B Is your clock broke?😇 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Oxo Posted June 19, 2020 #421 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I guess the subject is still alive. https://www.narcity.com/news/us/fl/tallahassee/florida-face-mask-mandatory-plea-from-doctors-lead-counties-to-pass-their-own-measures https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-florida-hospitals-run-out-icu-beds-coronavirus-cases-spike-1511934 https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article243634487.html https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-wearing-masks-show-disapproval-not-as-preventive-measure-2020-6 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/casino-regulators-tighten-mask-rules-as-coronavirus-cases-spike-in-las-vegas.html https://www.newsweek.com/face-masks-now-required-nevada-casino-goers-covid-19-cases-increase-1511958 I could add more postings about masks. I know you all swing both ways on this. However, odds this bias news or fake? Back on topic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
travelhound Posted June 19, 2020 #422 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I think all the cruise lines will require that you sign a release before getting on the ship and masks will then be optional. Link to post Share on other sites
Wine-O Posted June 19, 2020 #423 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I like the new designer masks. 🍷 1 Link to post Share on other sites
xpcdoojk Posted June 19, 2020 #424 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Travel is a necessary evil of life? I don't get that at all. Travel is awesome. Travel during these times for business may be a necessary evil. You are really equating opening schools to cruising? Education, in my view of life is essential, cruising not so much. When the youth are tearing down Lincoln statues, I think the money we spent on education was wasted. JMHO jc Edited June 19, 2020 by xpcdoojk 5 Link to post Share on other sites
yogimax Posted June 19, 2020 #425 Share Posted June 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: When the youth are tearing down Lincoln statues, I think the money we spent on education was wasted. JMHO jc And the adults have their knee on someone's neck for almost eight minutes... It's not about the money, it's about the humanity! Link to post Share on other sites
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